Author Topic: Yo Mythdracon (FP and Shadow) (Read 16218 times)

SomeRandomDude · « **on:** June 04, 2008, 08:29:13 PM »

Hey, Mythdracon, I know you've been looking for a fun, yet still competitive deck. I played this deck immediately after RoS came out, and surprised a few people with it who swore that the deck should die instantly. But it didn't. So, here goes.

RB And Ring
*The One Ring, The Great Ring (19P1)
*Frodo, Resolute Hobbit (10P121)

Sites

Breeding Pit of Isengard (15S188)

Isenwash (13U193)

Isengard Ruined (15U192)

Nurn (17U148)

Rohan Uplands (11S257)

Westfold Village (15S194)

Green Dragon Inn (11S242)

Pinnacle of Zirakzigil (11S255)

Valley of the Silverlode (11S261)

Fellowship (35)
1x *Farmer Maggot, Hobbit of the Marish (11U163) (starting)
1x *Fredegar Bolger, Fatty (18R107) (starting)
1x *Merry, In the Bloom of Health (17U107) (starting)
1x *Pippin, In the Bloom of Health (17U109) (starting)

1x *Gandalf, Returned (17R17)
1x *Sam, Great Elf Warrior (10P122)

4x Halfling Leaf (17U106)
2x Not the First Halfling (8U18)
4x Southfarthing Leaf (17U110)

2x Community Living (15C143)
2x Momentous Gathering (15U32)
4x No Visitors (15C150)

2x *Alatar, Final Envoy (13U28)
1x *Daddy Twofoot, Next-door Neighbor (13U144)
2x *Pallando, Far-travelling One (13R37)

1x *Glamdring, Foe-hammer (11R35)
1x *Sting, Weapon of Heritage (11R173)
4x Hobbit Sword (7C319)

Shadow (35)
2x *Poised For Assault (15U166)
2x *Tracking the Prize (18U123)

4x Violent Hurl (15C179)
2x You Do Not Know Fear (17R137)

2x *Lurtz, Now Perfected (15R162)
2x *Mauhur, Relentless Hunter (15S164)
3x *Ugluk, Ugly Fellow (15R172)
4x Chasing Uruk (15C157)
4x White Hand Guard (17C126)
4x White Hand Invader (17C128)
4x Following Uruk (15U160)
2x *Gothmog, Lieutenant of Morgul (10R88)

Freeps strategy- PIPEWEED! And big comps! Alatar + Gandy = 2 tokens on Not The First Halfling, making Gandy a potential strength 13 equivalent without costing you a thing. Oh, but it removes a burden. Sam + Sting = 11 base strength, Maggot + Sword at right site = 9, etc.

Daddy Twofoot/No Visitors = sweetness, and then there's Halfling Leaf and pipeweeds, so that should rock as well.

Shadow side is an Uruk-Hai Site Control Grind. The kind I LOVE! Basically, seize sites, win skirmishes via Guard and Violent Hurls, seize more sites, combo an Invader/Gothmog and BOOM! The effect is bigger if you've been using Ugluk, Following Uruk, Lurtz and Tracking the Prize. Just make their wounds stick, seize sites and then drop your Invaders and Gothmogs. Gothmog is a pretty hefty threat himself as well.

Mythdracon · « **Reply #1 on:** June 07, 2008, 12:09:06 PM »

Awesome. Will definitely construct FP side once I get enough RoS Uncommons.

The Uruk side requires those Hunters rares...gargh. I guess I could use pieces of paper with their names on it instead....lol. :S

Thanks so much for the decklist! Will try it out.

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #2 on:** June 08, 2008, 08:28:35 AM »

You can drop those rares for 4x You Do Not Know Pain if you want. Chasing Uruk and Ugluk are a pretty cool combo, though, I'd try to get some.

You can also try to get 1x of each of the unique guys and Vile Pit.

Mythdracon · « **Reply #3 on:** June 14, 2008, 08:36:19 PM »

One thing....how would you get Gandalf early on in this deck? It's 35 cards per side, doesn't look too likely we'll be seeing him early....or perhaps ever. Even though the event helps. O_o

EDIT: Wait, I guess with Community Living and Daddy Twofoot you could replay the event over and over again...just hope Gandy doesn't get *discarded* That would suck, a lot. Would there be any way to draw him back if he does get discarded?

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #4 on:** June 14, 2008, 09:04:47 PM »

Momentous Gathering.

Mythdracon · « **Reply #5 on:** June 17, 2008, 06:03:16 AM »

Does it work even if Gandalf's in the discard pile....doesn't seem so. O_o

Trooper · « **Reply #6 on:** June 17, 2008, 07:36:26 AM »

Gandalf should be played with Momentous and remain on table for rest of game. He is key in this deck, so keep him alive as long as possible !

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #7 on:** June 17, 2008, 08:36:43 PM »

Quote from: Mythdracon on June 17, 2008, 06:03:16 AM

Does it work even if Gandalf's in the discard pile....doesn't seem so. O_o

How will he get there?

Trooper · « **Reply #8 on:** June 18, 2008, 06:48:24 AM »

Dwarven Discard decks maybe ...

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #9 on:** June 18, 2008, 03:54:25 PM »

In standard?

TheJord · « **Reply #10 on:** June 18, 2008, 04:16:48 PM »

Fierce in Despair is all I can think of.

Mythdracon · « **Reply #11 on:** June 18, 2008, 09:08:52 PM »

I was thinking Sting of Shelob might do it too. But yes, Mordor discard, Orc discard as well.

Elessar's Socks · « **Reply #12 on:** June 19, 2008, 03:07:52 AM »

If discard is really that much of a concern, Momentous Gathering could be switched to more copies Gandalf, Returned. Seriously though, I think the risk is outweighed by the chance to pull Not the First Halfling faster... maybe 1 Gathering / 2 Returned if you want to play it safe.

NappyKorn · « **Reply #13 on:** June 19, 2008, 05:38:45 AM »

Quote from: Mythdracon on June 18, 2008, 09:08:52 PM

I was thinking Sting of Shelob might do it too. But yes, Mordor discard, Orc discard as well.

How often do you see sting of shelob played? I have played several games in person and many many more on sda where any card(S) can be used and I have seen sting of shelob played one time. It was when Macheteman was trying to make something that hasn't been done before. IMHO sting of shelob cost far to much to play for the possibility of discarding a companion. You have to have the 10 twilight to play it and on top of that pay 6 for shelob (8 more times then not). Not to mention the freeps player get to make that decision anyway. As for Mordor discard this deck is standard and the red eye tactic that discards the best would be expanded format. This topic has been brought up several times in the past there is no way to make a deck flawless and it will always have some kind of weakness. If you see your opponent running discard then hope for the best and do what you can

Elessar's Socks · « **Reply #14 on:** June 19, 2008, 06:21:36 AM »

It's give and take... trying to defend against everything could actually weaken a deck, not make it stronger.

Sting of Shelob actually places a companion in the dead pile, but like NappyKorn said the Free Peoples player gets to choose anyway.

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #15 on:** June 20, 2008, 01:59:22 PM »

Take a hint from MtG and start sideboarding!

Except LotR games take WAY to long.

Mythdracon · « **Reply #16 on:** June 21, 2008, 11:30:30 AM »

MTG = ? O_o

Sideboarding is what?

I mean it seems it would be ok for Gandalf in most cases, but there's still a significant risk against a discard deck. So while it could weaken the deck to include 2 more Gandalfs (I mean, if anything else those can heal Gandalf), I think it'd help. :S

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #17 on:** June 22, 2008, 02:38:37 PM »

If you're playing discard decks, you're hosed. I'd probably just get used to it. I've only lost with my discard deck once, and that was b/c of bad hand clog, and the other guy was running a 90 card deck.

Mythdracon · « **Reply #18 on:** June 23, 2008, 05:18:10 AM »

So discard decks have the power. *sigh* Such a mean strat to be so effective.

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #19 on:** June 23, 2008, 07:24:19 AM »

Frodo, Courteous Halfling? Or possibly Little Master? If you're that scared...

Mythdracon · « **Reply #20 on:** June 27, 2008, 08:42:49 AM »

The only thing Courteous Halfling has over Little Master is the Frodo signet, lol.

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #21 on:** June 27, 2008, 01:30:35 PM »

Yeah, pretty much.

TheJord · « **Reply #22 on:** June 29, 2008, 06:59:35 AM »

Courteous Halfling and Little Master cant prevent cards that say 'make the Free Peoples discard'

MR. Lurtzy · « **Reply #23 on:** June 29, 2008, 02:45:27 PM »

But if it was a shadow card making the freeps discard, wouldn't it still prevent it?

TheJord · « **Reply #24 on:** June 29, 2008, 02:53:39 PM »

Read Orc Warrior and Hand of Sauron, these cards make the Free People do the discarding, not the Shadow, so CH and LM cant stop it.

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #25 on:** July 06, 2008, 03:45:30 PM »

I believe that Courteous Halfling actually got clarified, or that those cards got clarified, or something like that. Anyways, even if they did it, the obvious intent is to shut down those cards, so in casual, that's how you should play.

Mythdracon · « **Reply #26 on:** October 10, 2008, 11:40:59 AM »

Is there anything that could replace Lurtz in this deck? It seems no one has him.

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #27 on:** October 10, 2008, 11:45:44 AM »

Sure, any random, tough fierce hunter.

And you do not know pain, of course.

Mythdracon · « **Reply #28 on:** October 10, 2008, 11:51:51 AM »

Lurtz, Halfling Hunter maybe? I have 2 copies of him, I need 2 more.

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #29 on:** October 10, 2008, 11:54:42 AM »

No he doesn't work with the deck at all. ANY hunter would go better. Just because he's Lurtz doesn't mean you need him. Now Perfected worked perfectly with the deck, but if you can't get that one, just use another random Uruk Hunter for synergy purposes.

Mythdracon · « **Reply #30 on:** October 10, 2008, 11:55:57 AM »

Ah, I see why. Hmmm...what other Uruk Hunters do you know which aren't too hard to get? :S

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #31 on:** October 10, 2008, 12:00:02 PM »

You know what? Scrap that and run 2x With All Possible Speed. Much better.

Mythdracon · « **Reply #32 on:** October 10, 2008, 12:01:01 PM »

So no 4x Lurtzy? :O

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #33 on:** October 10, 2008, 12:03:56 PM »

Heck no. Never 4x Lurtzy, he's not synergistic enough to do that. All your hunter bonuses don't help him, he does make a time bomb but its only worth running 2x max and he's the first card to cut.

With All Possible Speed is much better, because now you can turn your dying uruks into exertions anyways. Which is always a plus.

Mythdracon · « **Reply #34 on:** October 10, 2008, 12:43:50 PM »

Ok, cool. Thanks!

Mythdracon · « **Reply #35 on:** October 10, 2008, 01:00:31 PM »

Oh, and you know those annoying minions like Mauhur who can exert to get assigned to an unbound companion? I used Merry and Pip in my starting fellowship before, and they got slaughtered by him. Any way around this? To make sure he doesn't get assigned to them?

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #36 on:** October 10, 2008, 01:11:56 PM »

Um....not really.

Make Merry and Pip big enough to not die? Halfling Leaf?

Mythdracon · « **Reply #37 on:** October 10, 2008, 01:18:37 PM »

Yeah, I guess this deck does well for what it has. I just have to be a bit lucky.

Thanks for your timely comments.

Elrohir · « **Reply #38 on:** August 17, 2009, 12:26:33 PM »

Just had a few glimpse on this topic.

Firstly, Lurtz, Minion of the white wizard works well with hunters. Just make him hunter with Lurtz' Sword, Mighty Longsword.

Dwaren do discard in standard aswell! Thorin, Nobody tosses a dwarf or even Din of Arms could hurt. Well, little master is a really nice ring-bearer!

Just one Gandalf is an absolute no-go in this deck!

Author Topic: Yo Mythdracon (FP and Shadow) (Read 16218 times)

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