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June 06, 2008, 02:17:43 PM
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Re: Competitive Deck Discussion
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2008, 02:17:43 PM »
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I do play games, often, and I do win, just not as often as I'd like. And when I lose, I usually lose terribly. It's true I lack focus, I want to make awesome decks from every culture so I feel like my LOTR collection is complete....since as a 'collector' I want deck ideas collected, and represented, in their best form. Ambitious. But I think it's possible, with some help. I have been trying to get the cards for a particular Nazgul corruption deck one of our older CC members made---Utterly Corrupt Corruption anyone?

And God, Forearmed is a little OP. A must-have in my Elven telepathy deck I suppose, but as of yesterday I didn't see anyone posting to help me with it. Anyone know of counters to Forearmed? I know Dark Alliance can cancel events, and Final Triumph can make vitality the winner....any others? (Aside from cancelling skirmish, something that actually wounds or wins?)
easterling corruption....:D Everything that does nasty things before or during skirmish is good vs Forearmed.
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June 06, 2008, 02:37:14 PM
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Re: Competitive Deck Discussion
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2008, 02:37:14 PM »
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easterling corruption.... Everything that does nasty things before or during skirmish is good vs Forearmed.
Forget the skirmish. If you're fighting in the skirmish phase, you better be swarming or playing Forestguls (read: swarming ;) ).
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June 06, 2008, 02:37:52 PM
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Re: Competitive Deck Discussion
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2008, 02:37:52 PM »
This post split from the Assignment Mess-Up thread ~NB

*cough*Solo-Smeagol*cough*
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June 06, 2008, 09:36:57 PM
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Re: Competitive Deck Discussion
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2008, 09:36:57 PM »
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*cough*Solo-Smeagol*cough*
Solo-Smeagol always dies if you don't have the right cards in your hand though. He can't even take wounds if all those strength pump conditions are gone off of him, though Fishing Boat is a little help I guess. :(
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June 06, 2008, 09:39:13 PM
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Re: Competitive Deck Discussion
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2008, 09:39:13 PM »
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Forget the skirmish. If you're fighting in the skirmish phase, you better be swarming or playing Forestguls (read: swarming  ).
Hm. Generally I find Uruks to be the strongest Shadow though. Forest Nazzies usually get beaten up by annoying Gondorians or archered by Elves. :S

I've always wanted to make an Easterling deck, but I've always been missing some rares. Anyone for a TTT or ROTK decklist, Easterling Corruption? I imagine Vision from Afar is in it, but as for the combination of minions and conditions and possessions I always trip up a bit. :S
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June 06, 2008, 09:40:00 PM
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Re: Competitive Deck Discussion
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2008, 09:40:00 PM »
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*falls off chair*

DUDE! Has anyone? HECK YEAH! That's like, perhaps the most powerful deck!
Hm, cool! But if Legolas dies Namarie is toast. What about a Hunter Elves legion? Likeee Rumil, Silvan Archer and his bro? With Legolas? And Elven Guardians? :D
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June 07, 2008, 06:47:25 AM
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Re: Competitive Deck Discussion
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2008, 06:47:25 AM »
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Hm, cool! But if Legolas dies Namarie is toast. What about a Hunter Elves legion? Likeee Rumil, Silvan Archer and his bro? With Legolas? And Elven Guardians? 

Aren't Rumil, Orophin and Elven Guardian in there?  ???

BTW, I posted a deck in Standard that you should take a look at. It's called "Yo Mythdracon" and uses newer Pipeweed and Uruk Swarming. Amazingly oddball deck and absolutely a blast to play, but still competitive.
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June 07, 2008, 09:27:56 AM
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Re: Competitive Deck Discussion
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2008, 09:27:56 AM »
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Solo-Smeagol always dies if you don't have the right cards in your hand though. He can't even take wounds if all those strength pump conditions are gone off of him, though Fishing Boat is a little help I guess.
That's why you set up a solo-smeagol deck so you do have the right cards in hand. Dammed Gate-Stream, anyone?
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June 07, 2008, 09:30:11 AM
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Re: Competitive Deck Discussion
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2008, 09:30:11 AM »
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Hm. Generally I find Uruks to be the strongest Shadow though. Forest Nazzies usually get beaten up by annoying Gondorians or archered by Elves. :S

I've always wanted to make an Easterling deck, but I've always been missing some rares. Anyone for a TTT or ROTK decklist, Easterling Corruption? I imagine Vision from Afar is in it, but as for the combination of minions and conditions and possessions I always trip up a bit. :S
Then you're running them wrong. Forestguls, if run right, = about 4-5 nazzies beating down per turn with LitW. Sure, [Gondor]'s a hard matchup...elves, hm...so-so. But they pwn absolutely everything else.

Uruk's, on the other hand, ONLY beat elves, and OCCAISIONALLY beat [Gondor]. Pretty much everything else pummels them.
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June 07, 2008, 10:48:24 AM
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Re: Competitive Deck Discussion
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2008, 10:48:24 AM »
Please read note on first post of this thread before continuing to post here. We are attempting to consolidate all these lines of discussion into a major thread containing deck ideas, decks, and other miscellaneous info about decks.

Thanks!
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June 07, 2008, 12:07:19 PM
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Re: Competitive Deck Discussion
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2008, 12:07:19 PM »
I dunno, when I use Uruks against Rohan, Rohan dies regularly. Archery doesn't work against them with Broad-bladed Sword, those silly possessions mean nothing against events like Final Triumph or Savagery to Match their Numbers. >=D

Will look at your oddball deck. Thanks for naming it after me. ;)
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June 08, 2008, 08:48:39 AM
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Re: Competitive Deck Discussion
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2008, 08:48:39 AM »
[Rohan]'s being run wrong. [Rohan] should EASILY be able to match the Uruks stroke for stroke. Especially Fighting Frodo decks where Gamling is base 13 hunter 2, Eomer is base 13 hunter 1, Theoden base 11 h1, Aragorn base 12 h1, Eowyn base 10 h1 and can't take wounds and then you have that card that can pump them by the number of hunters you spot, typically by 6-7 unless your opponent is running Uruk Hunters, then its easy to hit, say, 10, and then Gamling's Horn which can pump him and another comp by 4 each, so I'd say that getting a Uruk up to the 19-20 range is pretty difficult.

Dwarves pwn Uruks hands down. Choke + Durin = dead Uruk-Hai + BRC = dead conditions.

And I just realized, elves, if they pack Take Up the Bow, can easily drop the Invincible Uruks and smash the others with archery or pummel them enough for their Orophin and Elven Guardians with SotF to kick in, so really, elves run right CAN pummel Uruk-Hai as well.

Gondor is still pretty hard-pressed to beat Uruk-Hai, but they have a few tricks they can use.
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June 11, 2008, 01:21:59 AM
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Re: Competitive Deck Discussion
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2008, 01:21:59 AM »
Hi,

is anyone except me of the same opinion that Elves - the whole culture - is overpowered (in relation to any other culuture)???
Galadriel Ringbearer with Silver Ewer, Gil-Galad High King of the Noldor, Glorfindel, Arwen, Legolas, and other cards...  :evil:

Elves are the companions which are the hardest to kill - but overwhelm or discard each minion they want! I hate them!
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June 11, 2008, 08:57:54 AM
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Re: Competitive Deck Discussion
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2008, 08:57:54 AM »
Not really. Most of the most powerful strategies can take them down, Lackey, [Men] archery, Corsairs in particular rock at obliterating Elves.

Elf hunters tend to be a bit difficult to beat, but even they can be taken down...Ninja Gollum, anyone?
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June 12, 2008, 02:09:38 AM
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Re: Competitive Deck Discussion
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2008, 02:09:38 AM »
Ninja Gollum has a chance on account of Shelob soaking up wounds and the threats interfering with Rumil/Orophin/Thorongil. When His Loincloth and Her Pincushionfulness join forces, they can do anything! But if all the Shelobs hit the discard pile, oh man, it's over. Gollum won't get a chance to use Incited. Just hope Take Up the Bow doesn't become popular. :-X

I think I'd veinpop the most against IB decks. Dealing with wounding and beatdown are basics, but outright minion discard? In the maneuver phase? Ouch.