Dáin's DCs - Helm's Deep (5/14: Like Swarming Flies....)

[Thranduil]

•Bloodlust
Condition • Support Area
Each time a Free Peoples character is killed or a follower is discarded, you may exert an Uruk-hai to place an token here.
Skirmish: Remove an token from here to make an Uruk-hai strength +2 for each character in the dead pile.
Skirmish: Spot X tokens here and discard this condition to exert X companions.
The more enemies that fell before the Berserkers, the fiercer they became.

I really feel that this card is too complicated and I would take out the exertion to place a token and make the first skirmish ability simply make an Uruk-hai strength +2 (and maybe damage +1 in some condition).

•Wave Upon Wave
Condition • Support Area
Each time you play an Uruk-hai with Berserk or Berserker in its title, you may place an token here.
Maneuver: Remove X tokens from here to play an Uruk-hai from hand; that minion's twilight cost is -X.
Regroup: Discard an Uruk-hai to take control of a site (or 2 sites if you can spot at least 3 tokens here). Discard this condition.
For every assaulter struck down or thrown from the walls, it seemed two took its place.

I would definitely remove the parentheses - it's really fine without it.

Thranduil

[sickofpalantirs]

•Bloodlust
Condition • Support Area
Each time a Free Peoples character is killed or a follower is discarded, you may exert an Uruk-hai to place an token here.
Skirmish: Remove an token from here to make an Uruk-hai strength +2 for each character in the dead pile.
Skirmish: Spot X tokens here and discard this condition to exert X companions.
The more enemies that fell before the Berserkers, the fiercer they became.
after reading the FOTR thread, this title conjured up bad images... LOL maybe make the freeps assign X wounds to companions? maybe make it heal a uruk to place a token IDK.

•Wave Upon Wave
Condition • Support Area
Each time you play an Uruk-hai with Berserk or Berserker in its title, you may place an token here.
Maneuver: Remove X tokens from here to play an Uruk-hai from hand; that minion's twilight cost is -X.
Regroup: Discard an Uruk-hai to take control of a site (or 2 sites if you can spot at least 3 tokens here). Discard this condition.
For every assaulter struck down or thrown from the walls, it seemed two took its place.

it seems like a keyword would make the whole thing so much easier...like reworking enduring. fine

[lem0nhead]

•Bloodlust
Condition • Support Area
Each time a Free Peoples character is killed or a follower is discarded, you may exert an Uruk-hai to place an token here.
Skirmish: Remove an token from here to make an Uruk-hai strength +2 for each character in the dead pile.
Skirmish: Spot X tokens here and discard this condition to exert X companions.
The more enemies that fell before the Berserkers, the fiercer they became.

Cut the follower discard thing and change the second line to berserker only me thinks.

•Wave Upon Wave
Condition • Support Area
Each time you play an Uruk-hai with Berserk or Berserker in its title, you may place an token here.
Maneuver: Remove X tokens from here to play an Uruk-hai from hand; that minion's twilight cost is -X.
Regroup: Discard an Uruk-hai to take control of a site (or 2 sites if you can spot at least 3 tokens here). Discard this condition.
For every assaulter struck down or thrown from the walls, it seemed two took its place.

The maneuever is a bit too powerful. Its like saying every 4the or 5th berserker is free. In a berserker deck this is broken to the extreme. Should be something like remove 3 tokens here to play one from hand for -2. And id cut the parenthesis on the last ability.

[DáinIronfoot]

Ugh...looks like I have some extensive retooling to do with that last pair. While I figure out what the heck to do with them, here's one that will hopefully cause less headaches. Enjoy!

•Crawled and Clambered
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot an minion.
Each time you play an Uruk-hai at a battleground site, if you cannot spot 4 tokens here, you may remove to add an token here.
Skirmish: Remove 2 tokens from here to make an Uruk-hai strength +3.
"They streamed down from Helm's Gate until all above the Dike was empty of them, but below it they were packed like swarming flies."

[lem0nhead]

Ugh...looks like I have some extensive retooling to do with that last pair. While I figure out what the heck to do with them, here's one that will hopefully cause less headaches. Enjoy!

•Crawled and Clambered
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot an minion.
Each time you play an Uruk-hai at a battleground site, if you cannot spot 4 tokens here, you may remove to add an token from here.
Skirmish: Remove an token from here to make an Uruk-hai strength +2.
"They streamed down from Helm's Gate until all above the Dike was empty of them, but below it they were packed like swarming flies."

2 tokens for +3 sits better.

[AgentDrake]

Ugh...looks like I have some extensive retooling to do with that last pair. While I figure out what the heck to do with them, here's one that will hopefully cause less headaches. Enjoy!

•Crawled and Clambered
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot an minion.
Each time you play an Uruk-hai at a battleground site, if you cannot spot 4 tokens here, you may remove to add an token from here.
Skirmish: Remove 2 tokens from here to make an Uruk-hai strength +3.
"They streamed down from Helm's Gate until all above the Dike was empty of them, but below it they were packed like swarming flies."

I like.
I wonder, though, if maybe the wording would be a bit nicer as "While you cannot spot 4 tokens here, each time you play an Uruk-hai at a battleground site you may remove to add an token here."
A little simpler, IMHO. But then, maybe not. I dunno.

[Thranduil]

Looks good. I think I'd prefer it to be not restricted to Uruk-hai, however just as it's not the sort of thing that's normally done.

Thranduil

[sickofpalantirs]

listen to AD's wording, and thran's suggestion