Need a designer

[TheJord]

I need a (potential) designer to help me design a Promo V-slip for the FotR league. A high quality PDF file that can be inserted into a sleeve with the card. Please PM if you are able to help

[Kenddrick]

Whats a V-Slip?

[TheJord]

Ok I thought I would have a raft of people willing to help. I need someone to help with creating a printable slip that can be placed over cards to turn them into promo cards for the League. I dont have the design skills on a computer to make the changes, so if someone can help please let me know.

[chompers]

Hi TheJord - I suggest you contact members Dogbert, Sete, Ranofer. They have all shown an interest in this sort of stuff. Dogbert has already alot of material already setup - probably not half slips though. He may be able to help and has volunteered to offer his support.

Promo cards to support the league would be fantastic, and would generate interest (hopefully), but they only support the collector and those that play using real cards. It would be great to see promo cards produced that are supported by GCCG, Zorbec's, etc.

I would love to tackle the copyright issues and for the  proposed PC to be able to produce full image v-cards if at all possible.

[Smeagollum]

Otherwise ask legoosmurf

[Sete]

I'd help, and with all the template card images I own it would be easy to do any V card ... specially since I own every typeface and symbol used by decipher...

There is only a "but"... My MacBook just stopped worked a week ago and I'm still waiting for Apple to fix it... Can take a week, two weeks, a month...  

[Dogbert]

This is why you make backups.

[Sete]

This is why you make backups.

Yeah, having 3 or 4 TB of backups is way too much already, I can't backup my Mac every day or week...

[chompers]

Bad time of year to be trying to get something fixed too. Everyone about to go on holidays !!

Haven't seen Ranofer around for a while ?? He was into all the graphical design stuff as well i think

[Sete]

Oh, I speak with him once in a while. He is not into "graphical design", he just likes webdesign and was trying a PC website..

Anyway, when Jord tells me what the V-Prize card will be, I'll start working on it!

[Ranofer]

Hey now, can't speak for me

I really liked the graphical design stuff, and I was very gungho about getting us fliers and new cards, but like we've already been over, we can't start using Decipher's stuff til we are cleared to do so.

[Legosmurf]

Hi, Legosmurf here,

As I must have said somewhere else, I worked with the Star Wars PC to make virtual cards. I would be willing to do similar work for this PC. Let's talk.

H.

[chompers]

Hi Legosmurf - the PC appears to be on hold at the moment due to lack of leadership/commitment from the LOTR community. Not sure if everyone agrees with me, but that's my take on it at the moment.

If someone comes along that is passionate enough about LOTR and has the skills to take this forward I am sure that they would love your help.

[Thranduil]

Also virtual cards do not seem to be on anyone's idea of a PC's agenda first thing. What people want more is supporting LotR communities and tournaments.

[Smeagollum]

Also virtual cards do not seem to be on anyone's idea of a PC's agenda first thing. What people want more is supporting LotR communities and tournaments.

You're right on that. But we're several weeks later again and I've got the feeling still nothing happening with the pc. For instance who's going to do the talking with Warren Holland and co; TheJord or C1G.com? And what should he negotiate?

[chompers]

This will be off topic as usual, but here's the way i currently see it (it might be right or wrong) ....

Several things can be achieved without the need of Deciphers approval ....

1) Marketing the game, this site and GCCG to increase the players base and users on this site - anyone and everyone can do this and if they like the game enough are probably already doing this.
2) Building up local player groups and running tournaments.
3) Rules support releasing an up-to-date CRD (containing clarification of cards) as discussed in TLHH.
4) A new website that promotes the game, contains articles written by players, contains current rulings (or clarfications), download links to support material, tournament ranking system, find-a-tournament and find-a-player locators, etc.

Anything that changes the game and impacts on Deciphers ownership of the game is asking for trouble without Deciphers approval. This is where Deciphers approval will be needed. And this is where leadership, organisation will be paramount.

1) v-cards, errata-cards, promo cards, etc - can only be issued with Deciphers approval. Some existing players aren't interested - so a compromise has to be reached (pre and post Decipher format seems possible?).
2) Rulings on cards that involve errata and changing the meta of the current game if broken or over-powered combinations of cards are discovered that impact the playability of the game (it happens when lots of players play a card game).

Until the non-PC part is established I can't see any point in moving to the second part because the community is too small to support it. Once established, it is then time to find a leader, and someone passionate enough about the game (or someone who wants to expand their resume) and approach Decipher. As c1G.com has mentioned - a charter will be needed to get Deciphers approval. We will need to outline our initial goals and vision of what we want to do with the game. We won't be able to do anything that is not approved by Decipher.

There is a valid argument that establishing the second part will support the first part. So perhaps it is possible to obtain Deciphers approval and provide some structure and formal support for the game first. If it is ... we still come back to the same problem .... we need a leader and someone passionate enough about this game that they are willing to jump in and give this a genuine go (remembering that it is a volunteer position, will take up alot of time, and probably minimise the amount of time you have left to actually play the game). The only benefit is perhaps to practice running a not-for-profit organisation.

[MR. Lurtzy]

3) Rules support releasing an up-to-date CRD (containing clarification of cards) as discussed in TLHH.

This definately needs Decipher's approval.

[chompers]

3) Rules support releasing an up-to-date CRD (containing clarification of cards) as discussed in TLHH.

This definately needs Decipher's approval.

Do you really think so? Perhaps I wasn't clear in what a clarifications CRD would contain ...

Clarifications on cards are discussed all the time on this site and we usually reach a concensus. This document would provide the nuts of that discussion in one quick place of reference. No rule changes, no errata, simply a reference document to explain how tricky concepts work.

The document could contain a disclaimer stating that it does not represent the views of Decipher, etc .... and that it is a collection of experienced players views on the workings of the current game.

Either way .. point is mute because the PC lacks support to get it going. Additionally, i doubt there is even anyone willing to collate these clarifications into a usable document that could be used by players. And would the community even use it?

[MR. Lurtzy]

Those are player opinions, they are by no means official.

[chompers]

Those are player opinions, they are by no means official.

Which would be the purpose of the disclaimer. Either way - you may be right

[Elessar's Socks]

Questions covered by previous CRD work have been asked again since then, so I think even an unofficial document could be useful. As always though the problem is the lack of authority, meaning it'd be something like a subset of players creating a document that the subset would be inclined to follow.

Which reminds me, some new issues could use archiving for whatever day they'd have some use.