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Uri...also know as Shaft...but without the shades.
« on: December 09, 2009, 08:51:16 AM »
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So here it is...my biggest deck ever! Before you start reading, if you even bother ( I know you do Ket) notice this. I wanted to make a Uri deck, 8 vitality, max on damage, so that when Sauron shows up, he makes mashed Sauron of him....not a tasteful dish, even in Mordor.
I was adding the conditions I needed, and noticed that my deck was growing, growing and growing even bigger. I wanted to draw cards in many legal ways and being able to dump my left overs. Well, both fellowship and shadow draw and discard cards like crazy. Well, it is obvious the result of some quick thinking, and I know some cards, but I'm sure this can be done better, especially with cards no-one plays, or hardly, like Mithril Shaft, which can be very helpful. Well, please judge, but do so politely  :lol:

Frodo And Ring
*The One Ring, The Binding Ring (9R+1)
*Frodo, Resolute Hobbit (10P121)

Sites
(1R)Dunharrow Plateau (7U329)
(2R)Rohirrim Camp (7U336)
(3R)Hall of the Kings (7U339)
(4R)Pelennor Plain (7U343)
(5R)Pelennor Flat (7U345)
(6R)Minas Tirith Second Circle (7U349)
(7R)Osgiliath Channel (8U120)
(8R)Northern Ithilien (7U359)
(9R)Dagorlad (7U360)

Fellowship (60)
1x *Grimir, Dwarven Elder (1U17)
2x *Ring of Fury (9R+7)
3x *Ring of Guile (9R8)
2x *Durin III, Dwarven Lord (9R+3)
1x *Farin, Dwarven Emissary (1C11)
1x *Gimli, Feared Axeman (7R7)
1x *Linnar, Dwarven Lord (9R5)
1x *Sindri, Dwarven Lord (9R10)
1x *Uri, Dwarven Lord (9R11)
1x *Ever My Heart Rises (4R46)
3x Dwarven Heart (1C10)
4x Endurance of Dwarves (2U4)
4x Lord of Moria (1C21)
2x Preparations (7R12)
4x Blood Runs Chill (8R3)
3x Delving (1C6)
2x Dwarven Foresight (4R45)
4x Mithril Shaft (1R22)
4x Rest by Blind Night (4R54)
4x Slaked Thirts (7U14)
4x Toss Me (6R11)
2x *Axe of Erebor (4R41)
2x *Gimli's Battle Axe, Trusted Weapon (7R9)
2x Dwarven Axe (1C9)
2x Dwarven Bracers (2U3)

Shadow (60)
4x Evil-smelling Fens (5U22)
4x Goblin Armory (1R173)
4x They Are Coming (1C196)
4x They Stole It (6R46)
4x Captured by the Ring (7C53)
4x Host of Thousands (1C187)
4x Threat of the Unknown (1C197)
4x *Gollum, Old Villain (6C40)
4x *Guard Commander (1R186)
4x *Host of Moria, Legion of the Underdeeps (9R+41)
4x Foul Tentacle (2C58)
4x Goblin Scavengers (1C179)
4x Huge Tentacle (2R66)
4x Moria Scout (1C191)
4x Goblin Scimitar (1C180)

Bid 1-2 to start, this is essential. Get Ever My Heart Rises, to start the drawing. Get everything you need from there, by discarding the topcards. If you sense corruption, don't use binding ring, otherwise use it for Ring of Fury for obvious reasons. Start building you fellowship, turn by turn, hopefully don't get outrun by your opponent. If you manage to get Prep + slaked Thirsts, try to stretch your fellowship. Gimli, Uri and Durin are your main figthers, they should do just fine.

Shadow is about ditching cards, but can provide a pretty neat swarm as well.

Suggestions are most welcome, especially about Swarm protection and Frodo protection....but keep in mind, 1 card is no good in a 60/60 deck  :lol:
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December 09, 2009, 08:54:56 AM
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Re: Uri...also know as Shaft...but without the shades.
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2009, 08:54:56 AM »
I notice a curious absence of NPNS and Honed in this deck... And DoOP....
« Last Edit: December 09, 2009, 08:58:51 AM by sharkey »

December 09, 2009, 08:57:59 AM
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Re: Uri...also know as Shaft...but without the shades.
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2009, 08:57:59 AM »
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So here it is...my biggest deck ever! Before you start reading, if you even bother ( I know you do Ket) notice this.

You bet your #$&*@! I do!

I'm noticing very little Frodo protection. Add another 30 Free Peoples cards and you'll be okay.

In all seriousness, you could probably have this deck at 50-50 and it be just fine. But why not start Gimli, Bearer of Grudges, Durin III, Dwarven Lord, and Uri, Dwarven Lord? Seems like that is much more ergonomically correct. Or, run Gimli, Bearer of Grudges, Uri, Dwarven Lord, and Sam, Son of Hamfast. Bid three to start, peel with Sam, Son of Hamfast. Grab your Ring.

I think you will need four copies of Durin III, two of Linnar, and two or so of Sindri if you can cut the deck to 50-50 and choose not to start Durin III.

Another thought...and this may be tough to swallow...what about Gandalf, The Grey Pilgrim? Enjoy an extra card each turn, plus cards like Have Patience and Citadel to Gate (Gimli, Bearer of Grudges will certainly add burdens). Plus, Brooding On Tomorrow instead of four copies of Blood Runs Chill (one or two BRC is nice, but four seems like overkill).

For the Shadow, cut the Tentacles, or add at least one copy of Watcher In the Water. That is always a nice surprise at site four.
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December 09, 2009, 09:00:16 AM
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Re: Uri...also know as Shaft...but without the shades.
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2009, 09:00:16 AM »
Right. And DoOP needs to be added too, at least 2x.

December 09, 2009, 09:01:43 AM
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Re: Uri...also know as Shaft...but without the shades.
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2009, 09:01:43 AM »
Right. And DoOP needs to be added too, at least 2x.

Why? If he is playing that many companions and uses Slaked Thirsts stacked on Preparations as Enquea protection, I don't see any reason that he needs Disquiet of Our People. That card was more for when you only played three Dwarves and a Ring-Bearer to avoid mean cards like Savagery To Match Their Numbers.
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December 09, 2009, 09:05:40 AM
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Re: Uri...also know as Shaft...but without the shades.
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2009, 09:05:40 AM »
I always played it as swarm protection. Against [Moria] Orcs, it allows you to remove 2 moria orcs from a swarm that might otherwise go to a ringbearer. Otherwise, it's -1 minion from a swarm. And with Gimli's Helm, and maybe a Dwarven Armor, you don't have to worry about swarms.

December 09, 2009, 09:07:20 AM
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Re: Uri...also know as Shaft...but without the shades.
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2009, 09:07:20 AM »
I always played it as swarm protection. Against [Moria] Orcs, it allows you to remove 2 moria orcs from a swarm that might otherwise go to a ringbearer. Otherwise, it's -1 minion from a swarm. And with Gimli's Helm, and maybe a Dwarven Armor, you don't have to worry about swarms.

Sure, but with Gimli, Bearer of Grudges (as I suggested) I would say he hardly has to worry about Swarm anyways. Strength 8 wearing Answer to All Riddles (logical ring choice). Toss on an Axe and Ring and you are at 10. Then throw on Bracers and Helm and 11. Add on Preparations wounding, and I think you'll be just fine.
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December 09, 2009, 09:15:18 AM
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2009, 09:15:18 AM »
I suppose that works also. However, I prefer DoOP. It prevents them from pulling out cards that prevent wounds. Very few cards can stop DoOP, I can think of many (though I don't know names, my friend plays with a Shotgun Enquea deck and uses rings that add vitality, the mount that adds vitality and that nazgul condition that prevents wounds). So, I tend to think of that as a less effective strategy, though I guess it depends.


December 09, 2009, 09:20:49 AM
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2009, 09:20:49 AM »
Ugh... I hate big decks with a burning passion. I have rotten luck drawing cards the right cards, so I tend to play cycle decks. For example, in a deck like this, I wouldn't draw Durin 75% of games, it's ridiculous.

December 09, 2009, 09:21:12 AM
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2009, 09:21:12 AM »
I suppose that works also. However, I prefer DoOP. It prevents them from pulling out cards that prevent wounds. Very few cards can stop DoOP, I can think of many (though I don't know names, my friend plays with a Shotgun Enquea deck and uses rings that add vitality, the mount that adds vitality and that nazgul condition that prevents wounds). So, I tend to think of that as a less effective strategy, though I guess it depends.

Yeah, but you have to think in terms of Movie Block, not Expanded.
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What cards aren't other than that horse?

December 09, 2009, 09:21:56 AM
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Re: Uri...also know as Shaft...but without the shades.
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2009, 09:21:56 AM »
See what you've started, Heije!

Personally, I don't see Champion Uri as a very great approach anyways. Takes a lot of cards to pull off...and even with four Lord of Moria, four Endurance of Dwarves, and Ring of Retribution, that is still only a +32 bonus for a turn. Nice once against Sauron, but won't overwhelm him by any means. Or Ring of Fury and four Endurance of Dwarves and four Lord of Moria is a 42 bonus. Again, not overwhelming the enduring beast...(but I guess that damage bonus is pretty healthy!)
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December 09, 2009, 09:23:19 AM
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Re: Uri...also know as Shaft...but without the shades.
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2009, 09:23:19 AM »
my friend plays with a Shotgun Enquea deck and uses rings that add vitality, the mount that adds vitality and that nazgul condition that prevents wounds).

The key one being the Horse. Shotgun Enquea and the Ring of Rancor is nice, but not when he gets hit by Slaked Thirsts before he can even use his ability...then he can use it once before another Slaked Thirsts comes his way. And there is no Nazgul condition that prevents wounds in Movie Block, besides His Terrible Servants which is limited to Twilight Nazgul. And All Blades Perish is an event that doesn't prevent exertions.
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December 09, 2009, 09:25:54 AM
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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2009, 09:25:54 AM »
Yes, but there is a nazgul card that allows you to prevent wounds by removing tokens. No idea which one.

December 09, 2009, 09:28:26 AM
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Re: Uri...also know as Shaft...but without the shades.
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2009, 09:28:26 AM »
Yes, but there is a nazgul card that allows you to prevent wounds by removing tokens. No idea which one.

Not that I know of. In Movie Block, that would be wildly overpowered with Enduring Nazgul. Unless you mean by removing twilight tokens, in which case His Terrible Servants only works with Twilight Nazgul.
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December 09, 2009, 09:33:53 AM
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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2009, 09:33:53 AM »
Yeah, that works. Okay, cool.

December 09, 2009, 09:50:38 AM
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Re: Uri...also know as Shaft...but without the shades.
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2009, 09:50:38 AM »
Wow, indeed, what a response, good to have someone, that is willing to become the new SpamKing of lotr and adds constructive critisism, haha. Thanks to you too Sparky. Ofcourse the point is Uri, otherwise I would built a general dwarf deck. I want Uri, I want him as strong as possible, and notice ofcourse Ket, that with a damage +7 Uri at best circumstances, he destroyes each Sauron in 1 strike.
This Gimli is added to make sure the Endurance stays. I mean I am likely to exert Uri now and then, so it would be aweful to see the Edurances gone cause of Saruman's Power of a single conditiondiscard card. And with cards on Preparations filled with cards and hopefully Toss Me, EmHR, you have a strong Gimli.
Well, again it is a fundeck, but I like to make it as strong as possible, ofcourse.
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December 09, 2009, 10:09:57 AM
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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2009, 10:09:57 AM »
you wouldn't say :-)
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December 09, 2009, 10:14:15 AM
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« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2009, 10:14:15 AM »
Oh and BRC is 4 times there so I draw him sooner, haha. If I don't need it, just They Stole It on that card, or if I don't want all cards gone, just discard the one to make Gollum strength +1.
I will add at least some Tale of the Great Ring....

Imagine this: playing against someone that just grabbed his best discard deck :lol:....and he sees the 120 sized deck, haha
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December 09, 2009, 10:33:47 AM
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« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2009, 10:33:47 AM »
Imagine this: playing against someone that just grabbed his best discard deck :lol:....and he sees the 120 sized deck, haha

My best discard deck is FoTR block and knocks out about 60 by site 6 and 70-80 by site 8. Of course, imagine playing a discard deck and seeing a 120 card deck...and Frodo, Courteous Halfling!
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December 09, 2009, 10:41:57 AM
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« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2009, 10:41:57 AM »
My best discard deck can discard 100-120 cards usually. But it is weak in other regards. It is barely able to survive, it has to hope it can discard enough minion pre-emptively to not have a lto of trouble. And it has to go first, because the dark side is weak. I'll post it sometime.

December 09, 2009, 04:12:54 PM
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« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2009, 04:12:54 PM »
I like your deck idea. Quite fun to see Toss me in a deck (I used it back in the days). I think DoOP is a good idea vs swarm as it is still useful vs other decks, just imagine defender +1 Uri that destroys 2 minions at the time. The tale of the great ring is a must. You should try to fit Honed as well.

December 10, 2009, 06:24:47 AM
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« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2009, 06:24:47 AM »
Though even with your Gimli choice, you are going to be hard pressed against Saruman's Power.

"OK, so I discard 2 [Dwarven] cards from hand and exert 5 dwarves..."

December 10, 2009, 08:47:03 AM
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« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2009, 08:47:03 AM »
Though even with your Gimli choice, you are going to be hard pressed against Saruman's Power.

"OK, so I discard 2 [Dwarven] cards from hand and exert 5 dwarves..."
The chance of seeing Saruman's Power is maybe 1 out of 20. So it's not a major problem.