Sauron's Might

[sharkey]

Some help here, on 2 rules.

First, Sauron's Might. Can I play this (to remove 1 twilight to place it on the bottom of my deck) even if there are no culture tokens? I would think so since it does not say, "To play, remove a culture token" I realize that I wouldn't be able to add the threat, but the idea is to leave it on bottom of the deck so as not to "deck out," and be susceptible to cards that prey on that (curruption cards).

Second, is there a regroup phase at the end of site 9 if the player's ringbearer survived (since they won)?

[sharkey]

Okay, for the second one, the ringbearer just has to survive. There is no regroup phase.

[Thranduil]

Some help here, on 2 rules.

First, Sauron's Might. Can I play this (to remove 1 twilight to place it on the bottom of my deck) even if there are no culture tokens? I would think so since it does not say, "To play, remove a culture token" I realize that I wouldn't be able to add the threat, but the idea is to leave it on bottom of the deck so as not to "deck out," and be susceptible to cards that prey on that (curruption cards).

No. You have to pay any costs for a card, and one of those costs is to remove Free Peoples culture token. If it said simply "Remove a Free Peoples culture token and add a threat" then you could play it without any culture tokens, because it's part of the effect and not the cost and effect is carried out up the best of your ability to do so.

Second, is there a regroup phase at the end of site 9 if the player's ringbearer survived (since they won)?

Hence the Caverns of Isengard.

[sharkey]

Sauron's Might says: "Remove a Free Peoples culture token to add a threat. When you play this event, you may remove (1) to place this on the bottom of your draw deck instead of in your discard pile. " I think it would say, "To play, remove a Free Peoples culture token to add a threat. When you play this event, you may remove (1) to place this on the bottom of your draw deck instead of in your discard pile. "

[sharkey]

Also, with the "When you play this" text, that doesn't mean before the other effects come into play, does it?

[Thranduil]

Think of it this way: you can't play Pathfinder if you can't spot a ranger. It doesn't specify "To play, spot a ranger", but "Spot a ranger to" tells you that spotting a ranger is part of the cost of playing the card. You have to meet the costs otherwise you can't play it. Exactly the same case here.

And you have to play the event (and therefore have to be able to play the event) in order to remove and put in on the bottom, because the card says so.

Thranduil

[sharkey]

Okay, cool. Thanks!

[Elessar's Socks]

Sauron's Might says: "Remove a Free Peoples culture token to add a threat. When you play this event, you may remove (1) to place this on the bottom of your draw deck instead of in your discard pile. " I think it would say, "To play, remove a Free Peoples culture token to add a threat. When you play this event, you may remove (1) to place this on the bottom of your draw deck instead of in your discard pile. "

What constitutes requirements is a bit spread out, but it includes "Checking to see that all costs can be paid is a requirement of playing a card." Adding "To play" might help clarify things, though it'd be redundant.

[TheJord]

The biggest question is - why would you play this card?

[sharkey]

The biggest question is - why would you play this card?

So that I could have 1 card in my deck fellowship turn, in case people play cards that cause decking out to equal corruption.

[ket_the_jet]

There are better cards. Goblin Sneak and Breeding Pit both send cards to the bottom of your deck. Gimli, Dwarf of Erebor works too. And that's just Fellowship of the Ring!
-wtk

[sharkey]

Oh yeah, I know, that was just the one that I liked best. I can't use any of those cards, but I've fond some, like persistent orc.