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January 22, 2010, 05:01:45 AM
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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2010, 05:01:45 AM »
Looking forward to James Bond in 3D! :D

Or Emanuelle :)

But agree with you totally. The only annoying thing was the under titling (In the Netherlands the films get undertitled). It disrupted the 3d feeling.

can't wait to see The Hobbit I in 3D!

Yea, Dutch subtitles sucked! They were everywhere around the screen. Why don't they have cinema's without any subtitles here?
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January 22, 2010, 06:50:05 AM
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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2010, 06:50:05 AM »
Why are the films in nederlands not dubbed?
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January 22, 2010, 06:51:44 AM
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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2010, 06:51:44 AM »
Why are the films in nederlands not dubbed?

Dubbing, that's even worse than subtitles...That's just violating the movie.
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January 22, 2010, 10:13:10 AM
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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2010, 10:13:10 AM »
I don't really know much about the Nederlands (even though my own last name is Dutch), but I heard, though I'm not pretty sure, that everyone there knows English as a second language and can speak it fluently. Maybe that's why they're not dubbed.

And on to topic, even the visuals and scenarios of Avatar didn't amaze me that much. I'm a fan of prog rock. I've seen a lot of Yes album covers since I was little (Roger Dean anyone?). And sci-fi illustrations from an old page called Gizlivadi.com (hence my name).

EDIT: http://io9.com/5426120/did-prog-rocks-greatest-artist-inspire-avatar-all-signs-point-to-yes/gallery/

Just scroll down a little and you'll see what I mean.
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January 22, 2010, 10:35:11 AM
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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2010, 10:35:11 AM »
...I'm a fan of prog rock. I've seen a lot of Yes album covers since I was little...

That is a funny comparison. Honestly, watching the commercials made me think of what Magic: The Gathering has been doing for years. But you are right. That stuff was on album covers even earlier.

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January 22, 2010, 10:54:32 AM
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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2010, 10:54:32 AM »
Right! Forgot about Mtg... But I've been a fan of fantasy and sci-fi artwork since I can remember, and probably forgot to mention it. But it's obvious. Mtg has always had those concepts, specially in Mirrodin and Kamigawa, if I'm not mistaken (and Zendikar, of course, but I'm not sure which came first).

And about Yes, some of the covers are just pretty much the same as Avatar's flying mountains and arch-shaped rocks.
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January 22, 2010, 11:40:19 AM
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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2010, 11:40:19 AM »
well, I got to see Avatar in 3D last night, and although it added a bit to the visual experience, it was otherwise...meh. 

I hereby dub it...two-and-a-half-D (2.5D).  I think 3d viewing could go far, so long as the technology improves.  It was kinda cool, but there were some parts of it that ruined the fourth wall for me, for instance, fitting the darn glasses over my own pair comfortably. 
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January 22, 2010, 12:11:00 PM
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2010, 12:11:00 PM »
FredjeBono = Nederlands?

Why are the films in nederlands not dubbed?

Well only movies for childred get dubbed back here in the netherlands. We're used to it that it get undertitles and it helps you to improve the language skills. But we also do it with German fims; even with Vlemish (Dutch Belgian)! It's because our country has his focus on commerce and trade and perticulair on the trans-Atlantic. We like to be the gate to Europe. So it's in our tradition that we speak our languages.

Why are the films in nederlands not dubbed?

Dubbing, that's even worse than subtitles...That's just violating the movie.

Second that!

I don't really know much about the Nederlands (even though my own last name is Dutch), but I heard, though I'm not pretty sure, that everyone there knows English as a second language and can speak it fluently. Maybe that's why they're not dubbed.

And on to topic, even the visuals and scenarios of Avatar didn't amaze me that much. I'm a fan of prog rock. I've seen a lot of Yes album covers since I was little (Roger Dean anyone?). And sci-fi illustrations from an old page called Gizlivadi.com (hence my name).

EDIT: http://io9.com/5426120/did-prog-rocks-greatest-artist-inspire-avatar-all-signs-point-to-yes/gallery/

Just scroll down a little and you'll see what I mean.


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January 24, 2010, 07:17:41 AM
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« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2010, 07:17:41 AM »
Why are the films in nederlands not dubbed?

because that is sooooo lame. Gandalf speaking German? He once knew every language known to man, but I can't imagine German being one of them, hahaha. Allthough I know that some movies are done pretty good, it ruins every movie for me. On DVD's you can put off subtitles, so that is not a problem.
Is it possible in Germany, Austria to watch the movies original?
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January 24, 2010, 08:30:13 AM
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« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2010, 08:30:13 AM »
FredjeBono = Nederlands?

Yes, I am.

And I might hope for all Germans and Austrians that they can watch the original versions. Otherwise I know I'm never gonna live in Germany or Austria.
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January 24, 2010, 09:28:16 AM
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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2010, 09:28:16 AM »
Why are the films in nederlands not dubbed?

because that is sooooo lame. Gandalf speaking German? He once knew every language known to man, but I can't imagine German being one of them, hahaha. Allthough I know that some movies are done pretty good, it ruins every movie for me. On DVD's you can put off subtitles, so that is not a problem.
Is it possible in Germany, Austria to watch the movies original?

Aren't you teaching german?

January 24, 2010, 09:46:20 AM
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« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2010, 09:46:20 AM »
well, they way avatar has been made is absolutely epic! there's no movie that can be compared to avatar's special effects by now. indeed the story is nothing new and nothing special, but only because of the impressions and great pictures it's a must-watch-movie (to my mind).

i left the cinema like...  :o

January 25, 2010, 09:31:54 AM
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« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2010, 09:31:54 AM »
I teach history, societyclasses and religion, so no german....
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January 25, 2010, 10:47:13 AM
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« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2010, 10:47:13 AM »
I teach history, societyclasses and religion, so no german....

"Deutsche Sprache, Schwere Sprache"

And when we're on it, you'll never imagine what I'm teaching:
Chess and...................Latin!!!
Yes, there still are people interested in this really strange language, but as once a wise man said, "lingua latina, lingua immortalis".
Didn't everybody of you understand this? Actually about 50% of all English Words come from Latin.


Why are the films in nederlands not dubbed?

because that is sooooo lame. Gandalf speaking German? He once knew every language known to man, but I can't imagine German being one of them, hahaha. Allthough I know that some movies are done pretty good, it ruins every movie for me. On DVD's you can put off subtitles, so that is not a problem.
Is it possible in Germany, Austria to watch the movies original?

Actually, German dub isn't so bad at all in Movies, but watching animated series like Simpsons in German is just... awful, just listen to Marge...

February 04, 2010, 02:08:50 PM
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« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2010, 02:08:50 PM »
@Gil-Estel: Give at least the French/German Lotr version a try! Usually, you can watch here each movie in its original version (if it is any european language) and obviously always in German.
Maybe you already know: I love languages - and that for, I went into the cinema in Amsterdam to watch any movie in dutch. But they were not dutch :( Although the dutch movies are excellent, they are often made in english/german...

@topic: It seems there are coming part two and three of Avatar soon.
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