Author Topic: Legality of Certain Promos (Read 11867 times)

Kralik · « **on:** January 11, 2010, 11:10:55 AM »

Are promos 0P62 through 0P67 legal in Movie Block? Since they are before 0P68 (The Binding Ring) it seems they should be...

I really want to use Mr. Underhill (P) - best Frodo picture! It's also a different signet than Reluctant Adventurer.

ket_the_jet · « **Reply #1 on:** January 11, 2010, 11:37:23 AM »

I have always thought they should be. I agree that Mr. Underhill (P) is the best Frodo picture by far, and that having those guys available in Movie Block does not shift the space-time continuum enough for it to be a big deal.
-wtk

Cw0rk · « **Reply #2 on:** January 11, 2010, 12:10:53 PM »

What about 0P20?

ket_the_jet · « **Reply #3 on:** January 11, 2010, 12:12:47 PM »

Quote from: c10ckw0rk on January 11, 2010, 12:10:53 PM

What about 0P20?

I always thought he should be legal as well in Movie Block. His stats fit Movie quite well...8-3 fierce minion for

. I say that every promo up to 0P68 is legal in Movie, if it was my choice.
-wtk

jdizzy001 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 11, 2010, 04:12:49 PM »

Where can one find copies of those promos? Are they pretty much a "Search ebay and pray you find them," type of card

Not a Zombie · « **Reply #5 on:** January 11, 2010, 04:39:15 PM »

Maybe we could make a modified movie where such promos are legal. As to where, most were handed out at tourneys, so now they pretty much are ebay cards.

TheJord · « **Reply #6 on:** January 11, 2010, 04:45:48 PM »

0P62 - 67 were promos handed to LOTRO players for entering tournaments. They are not legal in any format, except casual (obviously).

ket_the_jet · « **Reply #7 on:** January 11, 2010, 05:26:26 PM »

I'll be honest, I have no problem adopting them into Movie Block. Each card up through 0P68 (to include Black Rider (P) as well). Of course, if someone can show me combinations that are absolutely broken as reasons not to include them, I would change my stance.
-wtk

Edit: More review leads me to believe they will fit in fine. Arwen, Maiden of Rivendell (P) is the only one that I had to seriously check as she was the only character with an ability. Gimli, Dwarven Delegate (P) is similar enough to Gimli, Loyal Companion to be negligible and Gandalf, Stormcrow is similar to Defender of the West. The Eomer and Boromir are both nice cards that will slide nicely into some decks, but is the Boromir really stronger than Faramir, Defender of Osgiliath, Imrahil, Prince of Dol Amroth, etc.?

I think they fit in just fine.

Kralik · « **Reply #8 on:** January 11, 2010, 05:49:55 PM »

Arwen is definitely interesting.

Not much reason to play Gandalf vs. other options.

Boromir is the jack-of-all-keywords with no real game text. Could be played with Smeagol BoGS and RB Rangers.

Eomer has the cheap twilight cost, but not much advantage. Damage +1 isn't a big deal when with his spear and Firefoot he'd be essentially dmg+3. I'd go with one of the other Eomers anyway.

I don't really see any balance issues.

Cw0rk · « **Reply #9 on:** January 11, 2010, 05:50:59 PM »

Quote from: ket_the_jet on January 11, 2010, 12:12:47 PM

Quote from: c10ckw0rk on January 11, 2010, 12:10:53 PM
What about 0P20?

I always thought he should be legal as well in Movie Block. His stats fit Movie quite well...8-3 fierce minion for . I say that every promo up to 0P68 is legal in Movie, if it was my choice.
-wtk

Well... compared to Morgul Hunter I would say this is quite a strong card. He stops being roaming 3 sites earlier and is roaming but loses 1 of strength. The issue is also that Black Rider came out during the Black Rider set.

Are those cards movie block legal on GCCG?

Kralik · « **Reply #10 on:** January 11, 2010, 05:51:51 PM »

Quote from: c10ckw0rk on January 11, 2010, 05:50:59 PM

Are those cards movie block legal on GCCG?

Some of the WETA cards are, but not those.

ket_the_jet · « **Reply #11 on:** January 11, 2010, 05:53:06 PM »

Black Rider is also 1 less vitality. I don't see the big deal when compared to other Nazgul anyways. Ulaire Attea is a nice example,

, 12, 3.
-wtk

Yanko Markovic · « **Reply #12 on:** January 11, 2010, 08:16:36 PM »

Totally offtopic, but Mr. Underhill is not such a good picture of Frodo. I personally don't like it, it's an old and repeated poster picture. IMO, the best Frodo picture by far is the promo Resolute Hobbit.

Nice pic.

Not a Zombie · « **Reply #13 on:** January 11, 2010, 10:16:38 PM »

Quote from: c10ckw0rk on January 11, 2010, 05:50:59 PM

Well... compared to Morgul Hunter I would say this is quite a strong card. He stops being roaming 3 sites earlier and is roaming but loses 1 of strength. The issue is also that Black Rider came out during the Black Rider set.

But also remember it is very easy to decrease

minion's site number.

Elrohir · « **Reply #14 on:** January 12, 2010, 02:22:40 AM »

Black Rider is a blackrider card.

So he schould not be in movie. The Pomos would be nice. BTW, I exchange Boromir, Steward's heir for Arwen, Maiden of Rivendell.

ket_the_jet · « **Reply #15 on:** January 12, 2010, 07:34:43 AM »

Is Black Rider (P)being in the Black Rider set the only reason you can think of not including it? What if it was a reprint of a Movie-eligible promo? Should Nobody Tosses a Dwarf be cut from Movie as well?

Point is, on the Promo timeline, it makes sense that you can use it. And it is not over-powered for what it does; in fact, I love the balance quite a bit. Honestly, I would probably never use him, but I think that the cost-benefit ratio is pretty on point.
-wtk

Elessar's Socks · « **Reply #16 on:** January 12, 2010, 08:52:24 AM »

I like the pic for Mr. Underhill (P), too. It's a refreshing change from chronically knitted eyebrows:

What is that?
What is THAT?
Where are we going?
Are you coming back?
Oh hey! You're the lady from the test.

Although he might just be mesmerized by the shiny.

Yanko Markovic · « **Reply #17 on:** January 12, 2010, 10:06:06 AM »

Though I'm quite tired of the eyebrows, I must say the worst pic is Old Bilbo's Heir. So ~~gay~~ girlish. (lol that made no sense)

And I love HoFP (it's quite dramatic) and promo RH.

sharkey · « **Reply #18 on:** January 12, 2010, 10:11:42 AM »

Mr. Underhill's eyes are crossed though...

ket_the_jet · « **Reply #19 on:** January 12, 2010, 10:50:30 AM »

Quote from: Gizlivadi on January 12, 2010, 10:06:06 AM

...So gay.

Oh! Come on! He can use hate speech but I get censored for using four letter poems?!
-wtk

TheJord · « **Reply #20 on:** January 12, 2010, 10:51:50 AM »

I think 0P20 isnt legal because it isnt another card from a legitimate block in Movie.

TheJord · « **Reply #21 on:** January 12, 2010, 10:54:39 AM »

Weta cards...

Kralik · « **Reply #22 on:** January 12, 2010, 11:10:09 AM »

Anyone know why is it numbered 0P20 when it was released much later than other promos?

Yanko Markovic · « **Reply #23 on:** January 12, 2010, 11:19:36 AM »

Quote from: Gizlivadi on January 12, 2010, 10:06:06 AM

Though I'm quite tired of the eyebrows, I must say the worst pic is Old Bilbo's Heir. So ~~gay~~ girlish. (lol that made no sense)

And I love HoFP (it's quite dramatic) and promo RH.

Happy now Ket?

Gil-Estel · « **Reply #24 on:** January 12, 2010, 02:27:49 PM »

It is a hard world for Mr Ket. Freedom of Speech, not even in the World of Internet, I really feel for you my friend!

Jerba · « **Reply #25 on:** January 13, 2010, 08:20:28 AM »

If for no other reason than ease of explanation, every promo up to the Binding Ring should be legal, imo. That way we have an easy to follow rule that people understand. Black Rider and the Weta cards should be legal for that reason.

We need to make things EASY to understand. That will get us players. Movie format in particular is the most potentially attractive format to returning players for several reasons: A) They probably already have movie format cards. B) They are pretty easy to get and cheaper. C) Its the most balanced and easy to understand blocks.

So my vote is that Movie block consists of every promo up to 069 The Binding Ring.

Kralik · « **Reply #26 on:** January 13, 2010, 08:57:54 AM »

We could of course run a poll for GCCG players only. Most likely very few have these cards in real life.

Gil-Estel · « **Reply #27 on:** January 14, 2010, 12:50:33 AM »

I have them

jdizzy001 · « **Reply #28 on:** January 14, 2010, 05:31:41 PM »

oh-yeah... rub it in

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