Cruel Discard with Elven Archery and Sauron Corruption

[sharkey]

Problems with this deck:

Orc Scouting band, Orc Hunters, Orc Soldier,  Mordor's Strength. It can be countered, though it is a frustrating first time play. It will also lose vs. another mill deck, probably The War of the Mill Decks, who will win?

[Kralik]

Problems with this deck:

Orc Scouting band, Orc Warrior, Orc Soldier,  Mordor's Strength. It can be countered, though it is a frustrating first time play. It will also lose vs. another mill deck, probably The War of the Mill Decks, who will win?

I no longer play this exact deck, but... perhaps you meant Orc Hunters instead of Orc Warrior?

In any case, TWAoL discards Mordor's Strength and the 4+ archery each turn takes care of Orc exertions.

EDIT: KET, stop posting right before me! =P
Long-Knives and Lego's Bow also help.

[sharkey]

Fine. A Twlight Nazgul, His terrible servants, and shotgun Enquea. And maybe wreathed in shadow. I have a friend who plays that deck.

[Kralik]

Obviously every deck has its weaknesses.

The strength of discard is that it messes up practically every deck. So they have twilight Nazgul... will they be able to hold on to Wraith World? Will they even draw the right cards (such as His Terrible Servants) with Desperate Measures and Orc Warrior trashing their draw deck? Shotgun Enquea needs 6 companions or 5 burdens... the burdens may come, but they may also be peeled off. The Choice of Luthien + Might of Numenor helps vs. the likes of Enquea anyway.

Of course, if your opponent knows what you are trying to do, they can often outwit you.

[sharkey]

Yeah, I just like finding deck's flaws. I also like trying to figure out the ones that are most problematic for whatever reason. Another problem is Attea, In Twilight who will destroy allies, and Orc Warrior as well (discarding gift of boats). Their power is in Terror and Fear and Beauty is Fading are also problems. In short, a wraith deck will be problematic.

I find the funnest part of any TCG the deck building, the playing is just the second part. 

[Kralik]

Sure, this deck isn't perfect, which is why I no longer play it, but ONLY play my utterly perfect discard decks. The ones that win even if my opponent hand-picks cards to counter them.

[sharkey]

I play relentless charge and beauty is fading in my wraith deck.

I'm not trying to be critical. I'm just telling you what can be a problem so you can look out for it or change the deck to avoid it. I think this is a cool deck, it's well made. Good job!

[ket_the_jet]

Beauty is Fading is one of the worst cards ever. Would you rather play that or, say, Cantea for ? Relentless Charge is pretty common, but there is a lot of maneuver healing as well--The Choice of Luthien and Might of Numenor.

I actually don't think {Ringwraith} is a very big problem. After the first turn, the deck chokes relatively well so you really only have to worry about one (if not two) Nazgul. Arwen can take one and Aragorn can absorb wounds from the other.

Three copies of Elrond, Herald to Gil-Galad means that even if one or two is discarded, it will still be okay. And he is never really exhausted unless you use him and Secret Sentinels in the same turn. Ulaire Attea, The Easterling does a single wound, and anyways, after you see cards like that you just think, okay, just be carefully with my exertions of Elrond. He auto-heals, after all. The guy to really watch is Tower Assassin.

I appreciate you pointing out cards that may work against it--there certainly are some (Beauty is Fading is a fluke card of working, anyways). Relentless Charge is a tough card no matter what you are playing and you always have to be careful around Tower Assassin. But that said, this deck does a pretty good job of what it intends to do. I have tried the Free Peoples' side with my similar Shadow (replacing discard) and it cycles much better that Gwemegil even without Delving.
-wtk

[sharkey]

Yeah, it's a good deck. It's also a clever strategy too.I still think that some decks I've played would have a less difficult time countering it than some might think. It will still win most games against a random match up in the format though!

[Cw0rk]

The FP needs Gift of Boats for a site 6-9 run. Otherwise I would just play nothing and run vs it.

[Kralik]

Gift of Boats falling through is the main reason I no longer use this exact design. An alternative is a rainbow deck with Nobody Tosses a Dwarf and Durin's Secret. Or a tough shadow to slow them down (non-Sauron).

I play relentless charge and beauty is fading in my wraith deck.

I'm not trying to be critical. I'm just telling you what can be a problem so you can look out for it or change the deck to avoid it. I think this is a cool deck, it's well made. Good job!

Naw, I was just being facetious.

Relentless Charge IS a very, very serious problem. I would be more worried about that card than any of the ally wounding stuff.

[sharkey]

Yeah, it's tough since it's wound, not like other similar cards. All Blades Perish is another problem, but it is an event.

[Kralik]

It's tough because it wounds everyone and it's during Manuever. No chance to discard with TWAoL.

[sharkey]

No need to discard TWAoL. It doesn't really matter to RC.

[Kralik]

No chance to discard with TWAoL.

No chance to discard RC with TWAoL.