The Way Into Mordor - Gandalf (8/28: "You still speak in riddles.")

[DáinIronfoot]

Oy. I make a bunch of 10 or less strength Ents, and people cry they're too weak. I give them a monster, and now I'm off my rocker on the OTHER end. I swear, you people are impossible.

I'm inclined to leave it as is, since I don't have any plans for other mega-companions in this culture (at least, not with Ents ), so this would be the exception rather than the norm. I DID change it to 3 Ents as Menace recommended, so it's a little tougher to get it out. I could be talked into bringing the strength down a little bit, but like I said, I think leaving it be is the best course of action, even though 15 is a little insane for a companion. Certainly inspires the fear a proper swarm of Ents SHOULD though, doesn't it?

[menace64]

15 strength is fine, as long as it's costed correctly. With the 3-Ent spotting requirement, you'd already been flooding the pool with twilight, giving all Shadow players the ability to throw everything at you.

[FM]

I see no problem with the guy's strength, I mean, Ents tend to be more vulnerable to indirect strategies, like conditions, archery (heavy archery, that is) and/or swarm. Also, let's face it, barring skirmish shennanigans, when a companion hits around 12-13 strength he won't lose skirmishes unless the FP player plans to do so anyway, so what's the deal with 15? Could've been 18 and it wouldn't still make a difference, really. VERY seldom a game situation would arrive that the 15 strength would have THAT impact.

[DáinIronfoot]

If "an angry Ent is terrifying", what about a whole swarm of them?

Join the Moot!
Event • Skirmish
Make an Ent strength +1 for each other Ent you can spot.
"Then with a crash came a great ringing shout: ‘ra-hoom-rah!' The trees quivered and bent as if a gust had struck them."

Sort of like a bigger, older cousin of Roused. This one saves the exertion and has no limit, but it's much more expensive.

•Ta-rûna Rûna Rûna Rom
Condition • Support Area
This condition's twilight cost is -1 for each Ent and unbound Hobbit you can spot.
Each Ent at a battleground is strength +1.
Each Ent at a forest is vitality +1.
Each Ent skirmishing an Orc or Uruk-hai is damage +1.
"‘...with roll of drum, we come, we come; To Isengard with doom we come! With doom we come, with doom we come!'"

Mwaha! Probably far too powerful, at least with the vitality part, but I had to try.

[Thranduil]

Join the Moot!
Event • Skirmish
Make an Ent strength +1 for each other Ent you can spot.
"Then with a crash came a great ringing shout: ‘ra-hoom-rah!' The trees quivered and bent as if a gust had struck them."

I think it would be fine at - I never used Roused, it's just significantly worse than Boomed and Trumpeted. Yours is awesome though!

•Ta-rûna Rûna Rûna Rom
Condition • Support Area
This condition's twilight cost is -1 for each Ent you can spot.
Each Ent at a battleground is strength +2.
Each Ent at a forest is vitality +1.
Each Ent skirmishing an Orc or Uruk-hai is damage +1.
"‘...with roll of drum, we come, we come; To Isengard with doom we come! With doom we come, with doom we come!'"

Actualy I think it's fine, because you're unlikely to get many of those bonuses at the same time. Still, such a conditional vitality bonus is actually pretty darn dangerous.

Thranduil

[DáinIronfoot]

•Ta-rûna Rûna Rûna Rom
Condition • Support Area
This condition's twilight cost is -1 for each Ent you can spot.
Each Ent at a battleground is strength +2.
Each Ent at a forest is vitality +1.
Each Ent skirmishing an Orc or Uruk-hai is damage +1.
"‘...with roll of drum, we come, we come; To Isengard with doom we come! With doom we come, with doom we come!'"

Actualy I think it's fine, because you're unlikely to get many of those bonuses at the same time. Still, such a conditional vitality bonus is actually pretty darn dangerous.

Should I actually REDUCE the cost, then?

[Thranduil]

Perhaps you should also make it -1 for each unbound Hobbit rather than straight reducing the cost?

Thranduil

[Elf_Lvr]

Join the Moot!
Event • Skirmish
Make an Ent strength +1 for each other Ent you can spot.
"Then with a crash came a great ringing shout: ‘ra-hoom-rah!' The trees quivered and bent as if a gust had struck them."

Neat.

•Ta-rûna Rûna Rûna Rom
Condition • Support Area
This condition's twilight cost is -1 for each Ent and unbound Hobbit you can spot.
Each Ent at a battleground is strength +2.
Each Ent at a forest is vitality +1.
Each Ent skirmishing an Orc or Uruk-hai is damage +1.
"‘...with roll of drum, we come, we come; To Isengard with doom we come! With doom we come, with doom we come!'"

It's fine. Unless you can control the site path, the vitality bonus is really kind of useless, actually. Although it would be funny to move from a forest and watch 3 or more exhausted companions die.

[lem0nhead]

Join the Moot!
Event • Skirmish
Make an Ent strength +1 for each other Ent you can spot.
"Then with a crash came a great ringing shout: ‘ra-hoom-rah!' The trees quivered and bent as if a gust had struck them."

Alright i guess, would hurt me to play such a costly event.

•Ta-rûna Rûna Rûna Rom
Condition • Support Area
This condition's twilight cost is -1 for each Ent and unbound Hobbit you can spot.
Each Ent at a battleground is strength +2.
Each Ent at a forest is vitality +1.
Each Ent skirmishing an Orc or Uruk-hai is damage +1.
"‘...with roll of drum, we come, we come; To Isengard with doom we come! With doom we come, with doom we come!'"

Wow erm, put simply i do think its too strong. Cant really see it has a comparable card that is so immense. EL is right about the vitality, and as you know, i really cant see the point in temporary text vitality bonuses theyre stupid. But all +2 at a battleground is awesome, and 66% of youre fights are gonna be d+1? Wowser.

[Thranduil]

It could be that Ta-rûna Rûna Rûna Rom needs to give only strength +1 at a battleground.

Thranduil

[lem0nhead]

It could be that Ta-rûna Rûna Rûna Rom needs to give only strength +1 at a battleground.

Thranduil

  

[DáinIronfoot]

Alright, tweaked Ta-rûna Rûna Rûna Rom as recommended. Thanks, boys!

We've had several cards that allow getting around the drawbacks of unhasty. Now here's some incentive to actually USE some of those unhasty Ents. Enjoy!

Not So Hasty
Event • Fellowship
Heal an unbound companion for each unhasty Ent you can spot.
"‘I have become too hot. I must cool myself and think; for it is easier to shout ‘stop!' than to do it.'"

A Strange and Sad Story
Condition
Vitality +1
Resistance +1
Tale. Bearer must be an unhasty Ent (or Treebeard). Limit 1 per bearer.
Each time an Ent is played, you may heal bearer.
"‘Together we will take the road that leads into the West, / And far away will find a land where both our hearts may rest.'"

Too good...either of them? Both of them? You tell me!

[lem0nhead]

First one should cost 4 but both are fine.

[Thranduil]

Actually, I think Not So Hasty should remain at but only heal unbound companions.

Also, how about something that benefits from the mechanic of unhasty, not just the keyword? (ie. something that rewards Ents for not fighting?)

Thranduil

[DáinIronfoot]

Also, how about something that benefits from the mechanic of unhasty, not just the keyword? (ie. something that rewards Ents for not fighting?)

We'll get there. Not so hasty, Master Thranduil.