House errata (Custom format)

[Kev-La]

Bizarre ... I watched The Conversation last night for the first time ever. Interesting film ... I hated it and loved it at the same time.

Splendid! And weird! I'll send you a message privately so we can discuss the film

[Kev-La]

OK, here's the rest of the errata we're using at present...

1U113 A Ranger's Versatility (O)
Manoeuvre: Exert a ranger at a river or forest to exhaust a minion.

1R139 Savagery to Match Their Numbers (H)
Skirmish: Make an Uruk-hai strength +2, or spot 6 companions to make an Uruk-hai both strength +4 and fierce until the regroup phase.

1R195 Relics of Moria (H)
Plays to your support area.
Shadow: Spot 5 Moria minions and remove 2 to play a Moria possession from your discard pile (limit 1).

1U234 *Ulaire Nertea ~ Messenger of Dol Guldur (H)
When you play Ulaire Nertea, you may spot 6 companions (or 5 companions and Bill the Pony) to play a Nazgul from your discard pile.

1C248 Forces of Mordor (H)
Shadow: Exert X Sauron minions and discard a Sauron card from hand to add X.

1R282 The Weight of a Legacy (H)
To play, exert a Sauron Orc. Bearer must be a Gondor Man.
If this condition is played on Aragorn, you may discard a card borne by him (except Anduril).

1R313 *Sting (H)
Bearer must be Frodo.
Fellowship or Regroup: Exert Frodo to reveal up to 4 cards at random from an opponent's hand. Remove 1 for each Orc revealed. Limit once per turn.

1R318 *Thror's Map (O)
Plays to your support area.
Fellowship or Regroup: Exert 2 Hobbits and discard Thror's Map to play the fellowship's next site (replacing opponent's site if necessary).

2R32 Flaming Brand (H)
Bearer must be a Man.
This weapon may be borne in addition to 1 other hand weapon.
While skirmishing a Nazgul, bearer is strength +2 and damage +1. Discard this possession at the start of the regroup phase.

3R38 *Aragorn ~ Heir to the White City (H)
Ranger.
Each time the fellowship moves, you may remove 1 for each Anduril or The Shards of Narsil you can spot.

3R42 *Horn of Boromir (H)
Bearer must be Boromir.
Manoeuvre: Exert Boromir and spot an ally. Until the regroup phase, that ally participates in archery fire and skirmishes. Discard this possession at the start of the regroup phase.

3C48 We Must Go Warily (O)
Response: If the fellowship moves in the regroup phase, exert a Gondor companion twice to make each minion's twilight cost +1 until the next regroup phase.

3R67 *Palantir of Orthanc (H)
To play, spot an Isengard minion. Plays to your support area.
Shadow: If the Free Peoples player has 5 or more cards in hand, spot an Isengard minion and remove 1 to look at a card at random from that player's hand. Place that card on top of their draw deck. Limit once per site.

3R68 *Saruman ~ Keeper of Isengard (H)
Saruman may not take wounds during the archery phase and may not be assigned to a skirmish.
Response: If an Isengard Uruk-hai is about to take a wound in a skirmish, exert Saruman to prevent that wound or to make that Uruk-hai fierce until the regroup phase.

3U106 *Bill the Pony (H)
Bearer must be Sam.
Fellowship: Exert Sam to make the Shadow number of the fellowship's next site -1. Limit once per turn. Discard Bill the Pony when at an underground site.

3C108 Frying Pan (H)
Bearer must be Sam.
Skirmish: Exert Sam to wound an Orc he is skirmishing. Discard this possession at the start of the regroup phase.

4U236 Howl of Harad (O)
Plays to your support area.
Each time a companion or ally loses a skirmish involving a Southron, you may remove 4 to make the Free Peoples player wound a Ringbound companion.

4R237 *Ithilien Wilderness (O)
Plays to your support area.
At the end of each phase during which the fellowship moved to site 7T, 8T or 9T and the twilight pool has fewer than 7 twilight tokens, you may add 8.
Skirmish: Discard this condition to make a Raider Man strength +2.

7U49 *Steadfast Champion (H)
Bearer must be Gandalf.
Each minion gains this ability:
"Assignment: Assign this minion to Gandalf."
Regroup: Discard this condition to heal another companion 3 times and discard a minion.

7C96 Gondorian Captain (H)
Knight.
Fellowship: While this companion is not at a sanctuary, spot a threat and discard a fortification to remove a threat.

8C1 Aggression (H)
Fellowship: Spot a Dwarf who is damage +X to draw X cards (limit 3). Discard this condition.

10U2 *Memories of Darkness (H)
Each time you lose initiative (except during the fellowship phase), you may play a Dwarven condition from hand. Its twilight cost is -1.

10R11 *Galadriel ~ Lady Redeemed (H)
When Galadriel is in your starting fellowship, her twilight cost is -3.
Fellowship or Regroup: If the total number of Shadow conditions and Shadow possessions you can spot is 3 or more, discard an Elven event from hand to discard one such Shadow card (limit 1).

10C91 Mordor Fiend (H)
When you play this minion, if you cannot spot another minion and there are fewer than 4 twilight tokens in the twilight pool, add 3.

[Thranduil]

1R195 Relics of Moria (H)
Plays to your support area.
Shadow: Spot 5 Moria minions and remove 2 to play a Moria possession from your discard pile (limit 1).

Not sure I like this one hugely. Just don't see why for flavour reasons you would have to spot a swarm of Orcs. I think leave it at the original text, with a limit once per phase.

1U234 *Ulaire Nertea ~ Messenger of Dol Guldur (H)
When you play Ulaire Nertea, you may spot 6 companions (or 5 companions and Bill the Pony) to play a Nazgul from your discard pile.

I think the parentheses here are pretty meaningless, but otherwise a great errata!

1C248 Forces of Mordor (H)
Shadow: Exert X Sauron minions and discard a Sauron card from hand to add X.

Is discarding a card a worthwhile cost? I could see it working with just exertions.

2R32 Flaming Brand (H)
Bearer must be a Man.
This weapon may be borne in addition to 1 other hand weapon.
While skirmishing a Nazgul, bearer is strength +2 and damage +1. Discard this possession at the start of the regroup phase.

Really nice fix, well done! Obviously, a flaming torch goes out. I would put the "Discard this..." on a new line, however, or it looks like it's conditional on skirmishing a Nazgûl.

3R38 *Aragorn ~ Heir to the White City (H)
Ranger.
Each time the fellowship moves, you may remove 1 for each Anduril or The Shards of Narsil you can spot.

Interesting idea, but I do sort of have an issue with a card requiring both Andúril and the Shards it came from. I might try something like this:

"Each time the fellowship moves during the regroup phase, you may spot a artifact to remove (or if that artifact is Andúril or the Shards of Narsil)."

Alternatively, I might play on the fact that Citadel of Minas Tirith and fortifications representing the White City are conditions and reference conditions instead.

3R42 *Horn of Boromir (H)
Bearer must be Boromir.
Manoeuvre: Exert Boromir and spot an ally. Until the regroup phase, that ally participates in archery fire and skirmishes. Discard this possession at the start of the regroup phase.

I don't see any reason why it should be discarded in the regroup phase over when you use the ability. How about "... and skirmishes. Discard this possession." Also, are you English (or Canadian)? You're using English (and should I say, correct!) spellings of manoeuvre.

3C108 Frying Pan (H)
Bearer must be Sam.
Skirmish: Exert Sam to wound an Orc he is skirmishing. Discard this possession at the start of the regroup phase.

Again I don't get this discard at the start of the regroup business. It makes sense for a flaming torch that's going out, but what's a Frying Pan going to do? I think it should also be discarded immediately if you're going to go that route, which seems like a fairly good route to go down.

7U49 *Steadfast Champion (H)
Bearer must be Gandalf.
Each minion gains this ability:
"Assignment: Assign this minion to Gandalf."
Regroup: Discard this condition to heal another companion 3 times and discard a minion.

I'm probably missing something here, but how is this any better? Have you not just swapped the order of the clauses? Wouldn't Fruit Loops still work?

8C1 Aggression (H)
Fellowship: Spot a Dwarf who is damage +X to draw X cards (limit 3). Discard this condition.

This no longer looks like a condition, and is still very very powerful. Could you change the type-line (the template is the same) to "Event • Fellowship" and have something like "Exert your Dwarf who is damage +X to draw X cards." Makes it a lot like Delving.

Alternatively, I would keep it a condition and instead keep the first line instead of the second.

Otherwise, it all looks good to me.

Thranduil

[Kev-La]

That's probably the most helpful piece of criticism I've ever received on a forum before. I'm sat here in Manchester using my friend's (and fellow player's) computer and we're both grateful. We'll probably implement most of what you suggest straight off the bat because it rings so true. I'll study further and respond at greater length when I've had more time to digest your feedback.
I'm normally in Stafford, where it's practically compulsory to be English...
And nobody mention Steadfast Champion to me for 1 week starting now as I've obviously cocked up there somewhere!

Cheers, Thranduil!

[Thranduil]

I'm sat here in Manchester using my friend's (and fellow player's) computer and we're both grateful.
I'm normally in Stafford, where it's practically compulsory to be English...

WHOAH! YOU'RE IN MANCHESTER? You need to email me! NOW!

Thranduil

[Kev-La]

WHOAH! YOU'RE IN MANCHESTER? You need to email me! NOW! ...

I tend to visit Manchester every month or so to catch up with my friends and buy comics and stuff. I returned home to Stafford yesterday, and only just read this - sorry.

[Tbiesty]

Hey Kev-La!  Glad to see your trying some of this stuff out.  Kev-la, I know you've already seen this, but here is the errata that my playing group uses, in case others want to take a look and compare some of our ideas.  Click here.

[Kev-La]

7U49 *Steadfast Champion (H)
Bearer must be Gandalf.
Each minion gains this ability:
"Assignment: Assign this minion to Gandalf."
Regroup: Discard this condition to heal another companion 3 times and discard a minion.

I'm probably missing something here, but how is this any better? Have you not just swapped the order of the clauses? Wouldn't Fruit Loops still work?

I think I must have originally amended this card properly, and made a mistake in copying it down somewhere along the way. To help me remember exactly why this card was X-listed in the first place, please could you enlighten me as to what Fruit Loops is?

[Kev-La]

Hey Kev-La!  Glad to see your trying some of this stuff out.  Kev-la, I know you've already seen this, but here is the errata that my playing group uses, in case others want to take a look and compare some of our ideas.  Click here.

Hi Tbiesty! Thanks! Any feedback to offer on my errata, please?

[Witchkingx5]

7U49 *Steadfast Champion (H)
Bearer must be Gandalf.
Each minion gains this ability:
"Assignment: Assign this minion to Gandalf."
Regroup: Discard this condition to heal another companion 3 times and discard a minion.

I'm probably missing something here, but how is this any better? Have you not just swapped the order of the clauses? Wouldn't Fruit Loops still work?

I think I must have originally amended this card properly, and made a mistake in copying it down somewhere along the way. To help me remember exactly why this card was X-listed in the first place, please could you enlighten me as to what Fruit Loops is?

Treebeard, Keeper of the Watchwood with Steadfast Champion.

This is the key part of Fruit loops, and as you might see, just those 2 cards provide complete healing and minion discard. If you wanna see the whole combo, click here.

Anyway, there are several way to errata that card, a possibility would be making the text to "(...) and heal 3 companions" or "(...) heal a companion 3 times (limit once per turn)." or something like that. Just make the Combo with Treebeard gone.

[Kev-La]

...please could you enlighten me as to what Fruit Loops is?

Treebeard, Keeper of the Watchwood with Steadfast Champion.

This is the key part of Fruit loops, and as you might see, just those 2 cards provide complete healing and minion discard. If you wanna see the whole combo, click here.

Anyway, there are several way to errata that card, a possibility would be making the text to "(...) and heal 3 companions" or "(...) heal a companion 3 times (limit once per turn)." or something like that. Just make the Combo with Treebeard gone.

Thanks, Witchkingx5. Have some chocolate-chip goodness...

[Kev-La]

I've created an updated errata list for our "Custom Format" and should have chance shortly to post it here for review. In the meantime, I've bought one copy of 12R118 The Mouth of Sauron ~ Lieutenant of Barad-dur on eBay and am planning to add him to our game
Any thoughts or suggestion, please?

[Cw0rk]

I've created an updated errata list for our "Custom Format" and should have chance shortly to post it here for review. In the meantime, I've bought one copy of 12R118 The Mouth of Sauron ~ Lieutenant of Barad-dur on eBay and am planning to add him to our game
Any thoughts or suggestion, please?

Why would you want to errata him? At first, I liked your idea. However now, I'm starting to think that you have errata-ed way too many cards.

[Kev-La]

Why would you want to errata him? At first, I liked your idea. However now, I'm starting to think that you have errata-ed way too many cards.

I haven't amended The Mouth of Sauron in any way - I'm just thinking he would make a nice addition as he is. It'd be cool to have the option of fielding that character in the the games we play.

We find our errata to be perfectly manageable in size. In fact, as you'll see when I post it soon, I've added Consorting With Wizards to it!

[Kev-La]

Here's the custom errata list as it stands. I've juggled quite a few things around, chiefly due to the very useful feedback I've received above from Thranduil and others. Please keep it coming, folks!

And I've just had a rethink and removed Consorting With Wizards again. Any thoughts on this card within the game environment I've described? I thought it might be too powerful for Bilbo ~ Bearer of Things Burgled, but perhaps it's only fair to give him the advantage the card represents?