Author Topic: Underrated Movie Block cards/combos (Read 20145 times)

putridbreath · « **on:** July 13, 2010, 11:44:39 AM »

So we all know what Movie block cards get high ratings and inclusion into most decks (Ulaire Enquea, LoM, Saved from the Fire, elven bows, most corsairs, etc.)--what I'm interested in is the lesser known ones--the hidden gems of Movie block, if you will.
What cards/combos do you consider to be most underrated?

Cw0rk · « **Reply #1 on:** July 13, 2010, 01:02:44 PM »

I'd say Derufin is a pretty underated card. It is very splashable in any deck that lacks possession removal.

jdizzy001 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 13, 2010, 04:48:27 PM »

gorn signants...or is it signents?

MuadDib85 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 13, 2010, 05:05:01 PM »

Merry's Sword is one of the best movie block cards in my opinion.

Kralik · « **Reply #4 on:** July 13, 2010, 06:03:24 PM »

Dear Friends

I thought to myself, "That card has great potential... now what could I do with it?"

Not a Zombie · « **Reply #5 on:** July 13, 2010, 07:43:00 PM »

Most of those are used reasonably frequently. I'd say one of the most under-valued cards is Feild of the Fallen. Fires raged unchecked is another, as well as Ghastly host.

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #6 on:** July 13, 2010, 08:28:25 PM »

Quote from: ket_the_jet on July 13, 2010, 06:52:08 PM

Sam, Son of Hamfast
Smeagol, Poor Creature
Fireworks
Gollum, Stinker
Captured By the Ring
Goblin Runner
Grishnakh, Orc Captain
Red Wrath or Whirling Strike
A Light In His Mind
Brooding On Tomorrow

Those guys come to mind off the top of my head.
-wtk

None of those are really underrated, they're raw power and everyone knows its.

I used Fires Raged Unchecked as an IB tech in one of my extended decks once. It was nice.

I'd have to say the most underrated is Not The First Halfling. I've run token reinforcement on that card. Its awesome.

jdizzy001 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 13, 2010, 08:35:34 PM »

Quote from: Kralik on July 13, 2010, 06:03:24 PM

Dear Friends

I thought to myself, "That card has great potential... now what could I do with it?"

one of my favorite cards. One of my most favorite decks is a frodo sig 9 walkers FOTR block deck.

Cw0rk · « **Reply #8 on:** July 13, 2010, 09:00:40 PM »

How can you make Fires Raged Unchecked good?

Not a Zombie · « **Reply #9 on:** July 13, 2010, 09:48:40 PM »

with the threat abusing orcs. Eg, mordor veteran, mordor trooper, ect.

MuadDib85 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 13, 2010, 10:48:39 PM »

But Fires Raged Unchecked requires threats, those orcs remove the threats.. I don't think Fires Raged Unchecked is underrated, just not good.

Kev-La · « **Reply #11 on:** July 13, 2010, 11:39:21 PM »

Quote from: jdizzy001 on July 13, 2010, 04:48:27 PM

gorn signants...or is it signents?

Signets

putridbreath · « **Reply #12 on:** July 13, 2010, 11:51:09 PM »

I am finding myself liking On Your Doorstep more and more for any deck with Gandy--not sure how underrated it is
I think A Path Appointed is quite useful for its purposes--I use one in a token-based fellowship after discovering it recently.
Derufin is a great splash--possibly underrated. He absoutely destroys tough machine uruk/berserkers.
I agree with jdizzy001 that Aragorn signets are great--definitely an underrated element (as well as Frodo sigs---however everybody knows TMAYOD with Gandy sigs)
and sorry ket but your list definitely has power cards everybody is familiar with---Sam, SoH as underrated? really? lol
Fires Raged Unchecked : P

Jackmaclintock · « **Reply #13 on:** July 14, 2010, 12:38:17 AM »

Consorting With Wizards And Pippin Friend to Frodo Many others but the two I have yet to use Like Bum bum BUM THEODEN SIGNET ARMY !!!!!!

Imrahil · « **Reply #14 on:** July 14, 2010, 09:54:45 AM »

We are the Fighting Uruk-Hai.

putridbreath · « **Reply #15 on:** July 14, 2010, 10:04:50 AM »

Good call Imrahil--- 4C210 is a great card

jdizzy001 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 14, 2010, 05:47:24 PM »

Hey, Imrahil is a great card too! I haven't seen him lately in any knight decks

Jackmaclintock · « **Reply #17 on:** July 15, 2010, 12:28:38 AM »

Why not hes one of my Favorite Nights he works Well with a "51st Air borne Knights of Dol Amroth " And their awsome Mounts basically D+1 With normal text then wound a minion then with Im Exerting 2 minions; If you play you're Cards right you could sweep the board of minions

Cw0rk · « **Reply #18 on:** July 16, 2010, 03:59:54 PM »

Melilot Brandybuck is a pretty underated card. Played with Frodo, OBH, it is as good as Sam, SOH.

hrcho · « **Reply #19 on:** July 16, 2010, 04:43:29 PM »

Veteran Horseman and Elfhelm. Well, I guess they are not that underrated, but I like them. Made 2 fun decks around them. Having 9 mounted comps (4 of which are Veteran Horseman) is quite fun or having Elfhelm with Strong Arms and Thundering Host. As far as I've seen on GCCG, I'm the only one to use them and indeed, it's not easy to make a competitive deck with them (although my Veteran Horseman deck is quite good) but it's fun to play them. I love the imagined look on my opponent's face when I get my Veteran Horseman to amazing strengths. I've just realized that they could make a very good deck in Standard format (with Haleth and Theoden, Ednew).

hrcho · « **Reply #20 on:** July 16, 2010, 04:59:58 PM »

Elrond, Keeper of Vilya

I've seen only jmccarthy and myself play him and while Elrond, Herald to Gil Galad is by far a better choice as a splash healer/condition remover (with Vilya), Elrond, KoV is much better in "elf only" decks. Saved me many times.

Cw0rk · « **Reply #21 on:** July 16, 2010, 06:23:47 PM »

New Errand can be used if you have Isildur or Boromir as your alternate RB and can be nice even if you don't care about Site Numbers.

putridbreath · « **Reply #22 on:** July 16, 2010, 11:19:55 PM »

Quote from: Cw0rk on July 16, 2010, 03:59:54 PM

Melilot Brandybuck is a pretty underated card. Played with Frodo, OBH, it is as good as Sam, SOH.

That's great!--burden removal that fits with any deck that needs it dearly (Rohan comes to mind) without taking up a companion spot like Sam, SoH!
My Elfhelm and Grimbold Marshals of Rohan deck while fun to play (as mentioned by hrcho) just lost (barely) to an all out burden deck---here's my fix!

Cw0rk · « **Reply #23 on:** July 16, 2010, 11:36:40 PM »

Quote from: putridbreath on July 16, 2010, 11:19:55 PM

Quote from: Cw0rk on July 16, 2010, 03:59:54 PM
Melilot Brandybuck is a pretty underated card. Played with Frodo, OBH, it is as good as Sam, SOH.

That's great!--burden removal that fits with any deck that needs it dearly (Rohan comes to mind) without taking up a companion spot like Sam, SoH!
My Elfhelm and Grimbold Marshals of Rohan deck while fun to play (as mentioned by hrcho) just lost (barely) to an all out burden deck---here's my fix!

The good news about that is that using Frodo, OBH allows you to add other allies if you want.

Elessar's Socks · « **Reply #24 on:** July 17, 2010, 02:09:54 AM »

Banner of Westernesse - I favor this in knight decks over strength-boosting hand weapons. Usually minions are killed by vitality reducers and wounding, or Fifth Level does the job. That leaves the Banner to heal and prepare the knights for the next batch of minions.

Mithril Shaft (+ Ring of Guile) - There's a joke that pulling this card in a pack means you've been shafted... but it's something of a pet card. If you can accept your deck disappearing before your eyes (not as bad as Ever My Heart Rises though), the Shaft can get whatever's needed to set up combos and the like. Link it to Ring of Guile for extra mileage.

Southron Archer Legion - At first he seemed like an overpriced minion, but now I like to splash him in my Moria archery decks. When cards in hand are spent as resources (They Are Coming), it's pretty good when just one card can net 5 points of archery--and with

the twilight isn't as big a deal. Not to mention he's a 4-vitality sink, and if he reaches a skirmish, 13 strength might squeeze in another wound.

Incidentally, I've heard that knight decks shouldn't use City Wall... anyone know the reason for this? (Personally I can never find room for it, and I like Fifth Level more, but maybe there's something else.)

jdizzy001 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 17, 2010, 06:27:38 AM »

aw yes, shafted. i was shafted once

hrcho · « **Reply #26 on:** July 17, 2010, 09:43:16 AM »

Quote from: Elessar's Armpits on July 17, 2010, 02:09:54 AM

Banner of Westernesse - I favor this in knight decks over strength-boosting hand weapons. Usually minions are killed by vitality reducers and wounding, or Fifth Level does the job. That leaves the Banner to heal and prepare the knights for the next batch of minions.

Aye, a great card, I go with it in my Ranger wounding deck along with Citadel of Minas Tirith. In knight and ranger wounding decks, skirmishes are rarely lost and healing is massive.

One other card I use in my deck: Ithilien Trap - not as good as Merry's Sword, but saved my #$&*@! more then once.

Cw0rk · « **Reply #27 on:** July 17, 2010, 10:18:52 AM »

Base of Mindolluin is a pretty underated card. It is a very good site 3 to use if you have any Gondor or 2 Rohan companions in your deck. Garrison of Osgiliath, Arrow-slits, City Wall, Citadel of the Stars... I usually like to put 3 fortification in my deck allong-side Base of Mindolluin in case I draw one before site #3. This site isn't only for Knights.

Yanko Markovic · « **Reply #28 on:** July 17, 2010, 01:22:41 PM »

Quote from: Cw0rk on July 17, 2010, 10:18:52 AM

Base of Mindolluin is a pretty underated card. It is a very good site 3 to use if you have any Gondor or 2 Rohan companions in your deck. Garrison of Gondor, Arrow-slits, City Wall, Citadel of Minas Tirith... I usually like to put 3 fortification in my deck allong-side Base of Mindolluin in case I draw one before site #3. This site isn't only for Knights.

I wish Citadel of Minas Tirith was a fortification...

Cw0rk · « **Reply #29 on:** July 17, 2010, 01:43:51 PM »

oops. of the stars.

jdizzy001 · « **Reply #30 on:** July 20, 2010, 05:20:00 PM »

Okay, here it is, the most underused combo of all time. i have been mocked for using it in the past. It actually works best in fotr format, because the raider culture didn't exist yet, I like this combo because I found it without any help from anyone. It is my own, my precious, but enough talk. Legolas, Prince of Mirkwood and Long-knives of Legolas (3R21). Why is this good? With this combo Legolas receives a skirmish bonus against Nazzies, Orczees, and Uruk-haizees (The "only" minions in fotr block). I know Greenleaf is "better" but if your building a skirmish deck, he is the way to go.

Witchkingx5 · « **Reply #31 on:** July 21, 2010, 01:43:18 AM »

interesting idea jdizzy... I like the idea of having a fighting lego, thus, Archery and wounding is the way to go in FotR Block if you use Elves...

Cw0rk · « **Reply #32 on:** July 21, 2010, 04:01:23 AM »

Quote from: jdizzy001 on July 20, 2010, 05:20:00 PM

Okay, here it is, the most underused combo of all time. i have been mocked for using it in the past. It actually works best in fotr format, because the raider culture didn't exist yet, I like this combo because I found it without any help from anyone. It is my own, my precious, but enough talk. Legolas, Prince of Mirkwood and Long-knives of Legolas (3R21). Why is this good? With this combo Legolas receives a skirmish bonus against Nazzies, Orczees, and Uruk-haizees (The "only" minions in fotr block). I know Greenleaf is "better" but if your building a skirmish deck, he is the way to go.

Flaming Brand is a much better solution vs Nazgul than Legolas.

jdizzy001 · « **Reply #33 on:** July 21, 2010, 05:14:00 PM »

the point isn't to use solely legolas, the point is to make legolas a usable fighter

Cw0rk · « **Reply #34 on:** July 21, 2010, 09:10:17 PM »

Radagast. Most people know it's a good card but I consider it as a GREAT card. It can makes the difference between a win or a loss. Splashing one in any deck can be useful.

jdizzy001 · « **Reply #35 on:** July 22, 2010, 11:26:12 AM »

Quote from: ket_the_jet on July 21, 2010, 06:47:07 PM

I still think I'd rather run Legolas, Greenleaf, and leave the fighting to Arwen, Daughter of Elrond and Aragorn and Boromir with the Flaming Brand.
-wtk

a very valid point, but if you're building a trust me deck, daughter of elrond won't help. Plus i know how you feel about greenleaf. he is a great card, extremely flexible and has the frodo sig, making him perfect for frodo's pipe. However prince of mirkwood with long knives is a little known and never used combo, which is the purpose of this thread, to point out scarcely used combos

Cw0rk · « **Reply #36 on:** July 22, 2010, 11:34:41 AM »

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However prince of mirkwood with long knives is a little known and never used combo, which is the purpose of this thread, to point out scarcely used combos

It's not used because it's not that good. In a Trust me Deck, even if FOTR Block, all you need is 3 Gandalf Signet, Aragorn, RotN Gimli, SoG and Frodo, OBH. In other blocks, Legolas, EC is still better.

Cw0rk · « **Reply #37 on:** July 22, 2010, 11:43:58 AM »

The Number Must Be Few, a very underrated card. However, it is the only way to stop Ents as Ulaire Enquea gets destroyed by Terrible and Evil and Greed is discarded easily. If you think that your shadow if potentially weak vs Ents or large fellowship, you should consider it.

Witchkingx5 · « **Reply #38 on:** July 22, 2010, 11:51:21 AM »

Quote from: Cw0rk on July 22, 2010, 11:34:41 AM

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However prince of mirkwood with long knives is a little known and never used combo, which is the purpose of this thread, to point out scarcely used combos
It's not used because it's not that good. In a Trust me Deck, even if FOTR Block, all you need is 3 Gandalf Signet, Aragorn, RotN Gimli, SoG and Frodo, OBH. In other blocks, Legolas, EC is still better.

exactly. My Tmayod/ Pipeweed Deck ( I think it's somewhere here on the FotR Block board) runs those 3 comps, Gandalf, FotS and Greenleaf. Works perfectly, as I can heal both Gandi and Greenleaf with Frodo's Pipe. But still, I think it's a very creative idea.

The number must be few... I really like the way the card is played. A

condition with no spotting requerements nor any other restrictions... I like it.

The Dewk · « **Reply #39 on:** March 14, 2011, 12:17:42 PM »

Haha. I'm quite late/new here. But I noticed that there is one card in particular missing from the list:

WE MUST GO WARILY - Almost laughable that it's a common!

And if someone already did mention this overpowered card, my bad- kudos to them! Just thought that it really needed to be on here.

TheJord · « **Reply #40 on:** March 14, 2011, 01:22:01 PM »

It got errata'd and is nowhere near as good.

The Dewk · « **Reply #41 on:** March 14, 2011, 01:47:26 PM »

...oh. Way to bust my bubble. lol. What did it do after they de-powered it..?

legolas3333 · « **Reply #42 on:** March 14, 2011, 02:22:42 PM »

Here are a few I can think of...

Hate And Anger
Naith Troop in telepathy decks
Helpless
Saruman's Snows

macheteman · « **Reply #43 on:** March 14, 2011, 02:33:28 PM »

i've been seeing sarumans snows a lot recently, so i'm not sure its an underrated card, but hate and anger is a card you can build a deck around (which i did a couple weeks ago) but i have never seen anyone else play.