Preliminary Discussion: Mr. Underhill

[Kralik]

There are a subset of promos that are not legal in any format. Rather than tackle the whole subset, I'd like to look particularly at Frodo, Mr. Underhill. He has the same game text as Reluctant Adventurer, but the Gandy signet (which is very useful). Would it be acceptable to allow Mr. Underhill in any format that allows Reluctant Adventurer? Let's discuss and then vote.

[hrcho]

Would it be acceptable to allow Mr. Underhill in any format that allows Reluctant Adventurer?

My vote: Yes.

[Tbiesty]

Yes.  In fact, in general I think the promos that mirror non-promos should be allowed.

[Kralik]

Can anyone think of reasons not to allow Mr. Underhill? Let's go for some discussion before a vote.

One reason is, of course, the signet. Gandalf is arguably more powerful/useful than the Aragorn signet.

[Thranduil]

Can anyone think of reasons not to allow Mr. Underhill? Let's go for some discussion before a vote.

It is confusing to have 2 Frodo's with identical texts, but a different signet. And it's weird.

I obviously have no problem with people playing Mr. Underhill, but I wonder how much the confusion factor should be present in our deliberations...

[ASIDE: A great solution from my dream team hat would be to make a (V) version of Mr. Underhill which would be different and legal, and keep the original card illegal].

Thranduil

[ununtrium]

I'd say: Yes, because of Mr. Underhill's similarity to RE. It would give a boost to signet strategies and this is always worth a shot.

And we always have Thranduil's dream team hat, if MU turns out to be overpowered...

[Kralik]

Thran, why would anyone really be all that confused regarding two cards with the same gametext? There are separate images for each in GCCG, so I don't see it as all that different as having, say, Hobbit Sword*** vs. Hobbit Sword**.

[legolas3333]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO people, kralik obviously has some crazy deck up his sleeve that uses Mr. Underhill!!! I mean, look what he did with legal cards!!! *cough*Durin'sSecretSocietyOfDearFriends*cough* You can't give into his pressure!!!!!

However, I have no problem with anyone else playing with Mr. Underhill

[Kralik]

Ack, L3333 knows my secrets!

[MR. Lurtzy]

It's one of my favorite frodo pics and definately deserves to be used. Yes.

[jdizzy001]

yes, if my vote matters.

[Kralik]

Before I open the vote... is there anything else that needs to be said?

[Gil-Estel]

No, just play that midget

[Witchkingx5]

Yes, it's nearly impossible to get one.

[Kralik]

* Kralik has a couple.

And for the record, I will never cheat at GCCG collecting. I paid dearly in promos for the first and got the second recently after a game. All of my decks are proxy-free.