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May 12, 2008, 01:22:48 AM
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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2008, 01:22:48 AM »
When you work 12 hours a day supporting 2 kids, time flys really fast.

just grab an hour a day, maybe before going to bed, it is so worth it!
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May 12, 2008, 04:26:19 AM
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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2008, 04:26:19 AM »
Whoa, change of perspective! Usually when I think of texts in their native language, mundane English is not the first to come to mind. Even the best translations might not capture certain nuances perfectly, so on top of the great story I hope there's more ah-ha! moments. ;)

Just finished the latest re-read of LotR tonight actually, and for some reason this passage stuck out at me:

"All the children born or begotten in that year, and there were many, were fair to see and strong, and most of them had a rich golden hair that had before been rare among hobbits."

From scattering the soil? :o Whaddya do to the drinking water, Sam!? At least no one grew two heads.

May 13, 2008, 04:44:33 PM
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« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2008, 04:44:33 PM »
Steering this back on topic (long stream of innuendos removed):

I must have read FotR at least half a dozen times. It's interesting if you read Tolkien's own descriptions of what he was trying to accomplish writing LotR... it's almost as if he was just "trying his hand" at writing a good story, but in the end it became famous. Also, he originally wanted it all in one volume (six "books"), but was told that he'd have to split it up into three.

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May 13, 2008, 05:18:44 PM
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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2008, 05:18:44 PM »
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May 13, 2008, 06:31:13 PM
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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2008, 06:31:13 PM »
Probably my least favorite part was in TTT, from The Passage of the Marshes to Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit. That I can partly attribute to Tolkien describing the desolate scenes and despairing journey so well that I almost felt as weary reading as the Hobbits walking. *LOL* But as a reward what followed was the introduction of Faramir--one of my favorite characters, along with Theoden! Some other favorite parts of the book:

- Of exchanges there are too many to list, and not the least this:

"Then she sent me no message?" said Gimli and bent his head.
"Dark are her words," said Legolas,"and little do they mean to those that receive them."
"That is no comfort," said Gimli.
"What then?" said Legolas. "Would you have her speak openly to you of your death?"
"Yes. if she had nought else to say."
"What is that?" said Gandalf, opening his eyes. "Yes, I think I can guess what her words may mean. Your pardon, Gimli! I was pondering the messages once again. But indeed she sent words to you, and neither dark nor sad.
"To Gimli son of Glóin," she said, "give his Lady's greeting. Lock-bearer, wherever thou goest my thought goes with thee. But have a care to lay thine axe to the right tree!" '
"In happy hour you have returned to us, Gandalf," cried the Dwarf, capering as he sang loudly in the strange dwarf-tongue. "Come, come!" he shouted, swinging his axe. "Since Gandalf's head is now sacred, let us find one that it is right to cleave!"


So uplifted was Gimli's spirit that he could've leaped from the plains to Orodruin in one leap and save the Ring-bearer much toil. Haha!

- The Road to Isengard - a merry meeting of friends! And of course:

"For one thing," said Théoden, "I had not heard that they spouted smoke from their mouths."
"That is not surprising," answered Merry;"for it is an art which we have not practised for more than a few generations. It was Tobold Hornblower, of Longbottom in the Southfarthing, who first grew the true pipe-weed in his gardens, about the year 1070 according to our reckoning. How old Toby came by the plant..."
"You do not know your danger, Théoden," interrupted Gandalf. "These hobbits will sit on the edge of ruin and discuss the pleasures of the table, or the small doings of their fathers, grandfathers, and great-grandfathers, and remoter cousins to the ninth degree, if you encourage them with undue patience. Some other time would be more fitting for the history of smoking. Where is Treebeard, Merry?"


Which to jump ahead a bit, made this scene from RotK all the more poignant:

"Well," answered Merry slowly. "He is dead. It has brought it all back to me. He said he was sorry he had never had a chance of talking herb-lore with me. Almost the last thing he ever said. I shan't ever be able to smoke again without thinking of him, and that day, Pippin, when he rode up to Isengard and was so polite."

I was really enjoying the conversations so much that it's partly why the second half of the book dampened my spirits a little, when the writing started to become more descriptive. But besides Faramir to rescue the second half, there was also Sam taking a good poke at Shelob. ;)

I'll add the other books later.

May 13, 2008, 07:10:59 PM
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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2008, 07:10:59 PM »
out of curiosity, what were the 6 parts named?
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May 13, 2008, 07:47:07 PM
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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2008, 07:47:07 PM »
out of curiosity, what were the 6 parts named?

Here's something I found browsing around online:
Tolkien conceived of The Lord of the Rings as a single volume comprising six "books" plus extensive appendices. The original publisher split the work into three, publishing the fifth and sixth books with the appendices under the title The Return of the King. Tolkien felt the chosen title revealed too much of the story, and indicated he preferred The War of the Ring as a title.[1]

Tolkien may have hoped to publish the one large volume together with The Silmarillion, and to give names to the individual six books.[citation needed] The discarded title for Book V was The War of the Ring. Book VI was to be The End of the Third Age.[2]

May 13, 2008, 07:51:03 PM
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May 13, 2008, 08:44:54 PM
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« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2008, 08:44:54 PM »
So uplifted was Gimli's spirit that he could've leaped from the plains to Orodruin in one leap and save the Ring-bearer much toil. Haha!
That gave me a hearty chuckle. Seeing Gimli jump is like seeing that guy who says "Diabeetus" in cat form.

May 13, 2008, 08:59:59 PM
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« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2008, 08:59:59 PM »
I actually like Tolkien's  extensive descriptions, although I must agree with Ellessar's Socks... er... Just "socks" now. Frodo and Sam's journey made me feel somewhat wearied myself.

ge: If you enjoy reading LotR in English, try Silmarillion in English for a really... um.... "interesting" experience. I dunno what it's like in Dutch, but in English, it's... well... not exactly light reading.

Actually, it seems sorta weird to me to be thinking of someone reading Tolkien "in the original English." I guess that's what comes of having English as a first language. Lucky me.  :mrgreen: 
Now, if only I could read Anglo-Saxon, I could go for Beowulf. Now there's reading something it its "original English."
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May 13, 2008, 10:03:34 PM
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« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2008, 10:03:34 PM »
Too bad Lurtzy wasn't in the books. He would have been a marvelous addition. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

May 13, 2008, 11:24:36 PM
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« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2008, 11:24:36 PM »
I actually like Tolkien's  extensive descriptions, although I must agree with Ellessar's Socks... er... Just "socks" now. Frodo and Sam's journey made me feel somewhat wearied myself.

ge: If you enjoy reading LotR in English, try Silmarillion in English for a really... um.... "interesting" experience. I dunno what it's like in Dutch, but in English, it's... well... not exactly light reading.

Actually, it seems sorta weird to me to be thinking of someone reading Tolkien "in the original English." I guess that's what comes of having English as a first language. Lucky me.  :mrgreen: 
Now, if only I could read Anglo-Saxon, I could go for Beowulf. Now there's reading something it its "original English."

I know what you mean, cause The Silmarillion in Dutch is very hard to chew as well. I did it though, several times, and it was worth it. I have a copy of the Silmarillion in English and I will read it.
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May 14, 2008, 04:20:03 PM
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« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2008, 04:20:03 PM »
What exactly is The Silmarillion about? I have never read it but it sounds intriguing.

May 14, 2008, 04:30:53 PM
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« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2008, 04:30:53 PM »
It's the chronicles of the First Age of Middle Earth. It's got the Creation story, the fall of Melkor (Morgoth; as in moral fall... AKA he becomes evil), the awakening of the Elves, the creation of the Dwarves, the First Age, et cetera. It's written in a rather archaic form, and often gives the initial impression "It's like reading the Old Testament!"
There's several sub-plots (Beren and Luthien, Children of Hurin, Fall of Gondolin, Feanor and the War of the Jewels, et cetera), but overall the main plot is the combination of all the subplots into the history of Middle Earth.
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May 14, 2008, 04:33:00 PM
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« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2008, 04:33:00 PM »
Ah, thanks I may have to get that book.