Author Topic: I WILL make dwarves work in FOTR. (Read 14496 times)

SomeRandomDude · « **on:** September 05, 2008, 12:32:10 PM »

And here goes!

Frodo And Ring
*The One Ring, Isildur's Bane (1R1)
*Frodo, Reluctant Adventurer (2C102)

Sites
(1) Hobbiton Woods (2U116)
(2) Trollshaw Forest (1U334)
(3) Council Courtyard (1C337)
(4) Mithril Mine (1U345)
(5) The Bridge of Khazad-dum (1C349)
(6) Dimrill Dale (1U350)
(7) Anduin Confluence (1U353)
(8) Shores of Nen Hithoel (1U359)
(9) Summit of Amon Hen (1C362)

Fellowship (40)
1x *Gimli, Dwarf of the Mountain-race (2P121)
1x *Gloin, Friend to Thorin (2R7)
1x Dwarf Guard (1C7)

1x *Thrarin, Dwarven Smith (1U27)
1x *Farin, Dwarven Emissary (1C11)
1x *Fror, Gimli's Kinsman (2C6)

4x Till Durin Wakes Again (2C14)

4x Axe Strike (1C3)
3x Delving (1C6)
4x Flurry of Blows (2C5)
2x Power According to His Stature (1R308)

2x *Book Of Mazarbul (3R1)
1x *Gimli's Helm (1R15)
2x *Sting (1R313)
3x Dwarven Armor (1C8)
3x Dwarven Axe (1C9)
3x Dwarven Bracers (12U5)
3x Hand Axe (2C10)

Shadow (40)
4x Goblin Armory (1R173)
2x Goblin Swarms (1R183)
1x Relics of Moria (1R195)
1x They Are Coming (1C196)

2x *Cave Troll of Moria, Scourge of the Black Pit (1R165)
1x *The Balrog, Flame of Udun (2R52)
3x *Ulaire Nertea, Messenger of Dol Guldur (1U234)

4x Goblin Backstabber (1C174)
2x Goblin Flankers (2C61)
4x Goblin Runner (1U178)
4x Goblin Scavengers (1C179)
4x Goblin Scrabbler (2C64)
4x Moria Scout (1C191)
4x Goblin Scimitar (1C180)

HOLY COW! A 40/40 deck from ME?!?!?! Yes, and here's why. You have Dwarves. And you have Moria. Last deck like this I built was decking out at 9 with 43/43. So...yup.

Freep- Beatdown.
Shadow- Swarm

Any questions?

DáinIronfoot · « **Reply #1 on:** September 05, 2008, 12:51:23 PM »

With your tales, I'd strongly recommend Mines of Khazad-Dum.

If this is sheer beatdown, why no Lord of Moria?

And also why no Gimli's Battle Axe?

I also don't understand the FOUR copies of Delving. It's a nice card and all, but Book of Mazarbul should do much more for you...and you've got only a 40-card

paired with it, so it's not like you need all that Delving anyway.

One more thought: Storm of Argument. Could be an awesome way to get Flurry of Blows back.

EDIT: One other thought: I see very little Balrog protection. I know your Site 7 discards allies, but it couldn't hurt to toss in Dwarven Smith as a sacrificial lamb. Heck, I'd rather have him than the movement penalty (and fellowship size) increasing Dwarf Guard, though the Guard makes an okay speed bump as well, I guess.

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #2 on:** September 05, 2008, 01:06:25 PM »

Ach. I thought I stuck him in.

Fixed.

Kralik · « **Reply #3 on:** September 05, 2008, 08:38:37 PM »

Did someone suggest that dwarves do not work in FotR?

menace64 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 05, 2008, 10:37:26 PM »

lol yeah. My best deck back in the day was a Dwarf deck. I even retooled it a bit and had Pippin overwhelming Balrogs!

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #5 on:** September 06, 2008, 07:36:26 AM »

Quote from: Kralik on September 05, 2008, 08:38:37 PM

Did someone suggest that dwarves do not work in FotR?

Yes. Everyone. At CC.

DáinIronfoot · « **Reply #6 on:** September 06, 2008, 08:32:52 AM »

They certainly didn't seem like a really viable culture until Reflections, but then again, in a great twist of irony, I haven't used Dwarves all that much.

Kralik · « **Reply #7 on:** September 06, 2008, 08:40:35 AM »

Quote from: NBarden on September 06, 2008, 07:36:26 AM

Yes. Everyone. At CC.

Ah, OK. Forgive my ignorance... I had always thought them as quite viable.

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #8 on:** September 06, 2008, 10:06:47 AM »

Ach. Well...I'd never made 'em work. The Balrog usually managed to knock some dudes off.

Kralik · « **Reply #9 on:** September 06, 2008, 11:02:20 AM »

Quote from: NBarden on September 06, 2008, 10:06:47 AM

Ach. Well...I'd never made 'em work. The Balrog usually managed to knock some dudes off.

Dwarven Armor? Gimli's Helm?

Gil-Estel · « **Reply #10 on:** September 06, 2008, 03:07:45 PM »

Still it is not the best option in Fellowship. They are generaly not very strong and options are limited when it comes to the dwarves. Also no condition discard will hurt with so many vital conditions running around in Fellowship block. Under the Watching Eye, Orc Bowmen, Goblin Swarms, Goblin Armory, Black Breath, Blade Tip......

AgentDrake · « **Reply #11 on:** September 06, 2008, 05:31:07 PM »

Make Light of Burdens takes care of Black Breath and Blade Tip, at least. The rest, not so much.

<Typo fixed so it'd link to the card.> ~ FM

Kralik · « **Reply #12 on:** September 06, 2008, 07:27:26 PM »

Quote from: AgentDrake on September 06, 2008, 05:31:07 PM

Make Light of Burdens takes care of Black Brath and Blade Tip, at least. The rest, not so much.

Surely you meant... Black Broth? Mmmm...

Tempest123 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 12, 2009, 02:30:50 AM »

Here are my suggestions

Frodo And Ring
*The One Ring, Isildur's Bane (1R1)
*Frodo, Reluctant Adventurer (2C102)

Sites
(1) Hobbiton Woods (2U116)
(2) Trollshaw Forest (1U334)
(3) Council Courtyard (1C337)
(4) Mithril Mine (1U345)
(5) The Bridge of Khazad-dum (1C349)
(6) Dimrill Dale (1U350)
(7) Anduin Confluence (1U353)
(8) Shores of Nen Hithoel (1U359)
(9) Summit of Amon Hen (1C362)

Fellowship (36)
1x *Gimli, Dwarf of the Mountain-race (2P121)
1x *Gloin, Friend to Thorin (2R7)
1x *Thrarin, Dwarven Smith (1U27)
1x *Farin, Dwarven Emissary (1C11)
1x *Fror, Gimli's Kinsman (2C6)
4x Till Durin Wakes Again (2C14)
3x Axe Strike (1C3)
4x Delving (1C6)
2x Flurry of Blows (2C5)
2x Power According to His Stature (1R308)
2x *Book Of Mazarbul (3R1)
1x *Gimli's Helm (1R15)
2x *Sting (1R313)
3x Dwarven Axe (1C9)
3x Dwarven Bracers (12U5)
3x Hand Axe (2C10)
2x Bounder

Shadow (36)
4x Goblin Armory (1R173)
2x Goblin Swarms (1R183)
2x They Are Coming (1C196)
1x *Cave Troll of Moria, Scourge of the Black Pit (1R165)
1x *The Balrog, Flame of Udun (2R52)
2x *Ulaire Nertea, Messenger of Dol Guldur (1U234)
4x Goblin Backstabber (1C174)
4x Goblin Runner (1U178)
4x Goblin Scavengers (1C179)
4x Moria Scout (1C191)
4x Goblin Scimitar (1C180)
4X Host of Thousands

But I would remove Troll and Gimlis helm and maybe add Gimli Son of Gloin.
Also if ur worried about swarm maybe some Hobbit Stealth instead of PATHS

daisukeman · « **Reply #14 on:** February 12, 2009, 01:27:32 PM »

I think the afore mentioned suggestions have too few copies of companions.

silver.telperion · « **Reply #15 on:** May 20, 2009, 05:34:04 PM »

If you are worried about the Balrog, throw in a few copies of Hobbit Stealth and let Frodo take care of the Balrog.

legolas3333 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 20, 2009, 11:12:22 PM »

you can't cancel skirmishes involving the Ring-Bearer

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #17 on:** May 20, 2009, 11:17:20 PM »

Actually, you can in Fellowship block. See O Elbereth Gilthoniel. The rule was made with tower block, so FotR block, a lot of people play that you can.

Kralik · « **Reply #18 on:** May 21, 2009, 08:22:19 AM »

Quote from: NBarden on May 20, 2009, 11:17:20 PM

The rule was made with tower block, so FotR block, a lot of people play that you can.

Actually, that rule was made after Reflections because of ARB's. In regards to Towers Block, see Frodo's Cloak.

Cw0rk · « **Reply #19 on:** May 21, 2009, 08:48:32 AM »

Your deck looks great... I decent way to make dwarves work in FOTR is also to use Realm of Dwarrodelf and have a huge draw deck. Strenght +3 every turn is great.

Tempest123 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 18, 2009, 08:23:09 AM »

remove
dwarf guard x1
dwarven armor x3
remove 3xdelving 2xpaths put , bounderx2 ,rare frodo and you can 2x hobbit stealth if you want

ulaire nertea x2
goblin flankers x2
add x2 they are coming
remove goblin scrabblers x4 and add 2x goblin wallcrawlers
remove 1 moria scout

Now you will have a 35/35 deck , not so terrible

Ringbearer · « **Reply #21 on:** July 18, 2009, 08:47:27 AM »

I would suggest starting the party field and add a bilbo, well-spoken Gentlehobbit or 2 to take acre of some conditions... you play plenty of tales, can always sac one or two.

CAuse I played against dwarves with my meatgrinder (UTWE, ORc Bowmen, Hate) and its an autoloss for dwarves.... even with him having Greatest Kingdom turn 1.

Malachi · « **Reply #22 on:** July 18, 2009, 02:12:25 PM »

You're kidding? Dwarves/Moria cycles like crazy, I have a deck even bigger than this one and usually only have 10-12 card in deck by site 9. And delving is critical if you don't get the Book of Mazarbul too early.

ket_the_jet · « **Reply #23 on:** July 30, 2009, 09:14:32 AM »

Add another They Are Coming and Goblin Swarms.

Remove the 3 copies of Ulaire Nertea, Messenger of Dol Guldur and replace with two copies of Ulaire Enquea. I would dump the two Goblin Flankers and four Moria Scouts and replace with four Goblin Sneaks. These guys are great for getting that perfect site eight/site nine swarm with such a small draw deck.

Personally, I would remove the four Goblin Backstabbers and the four Goblin Scrabblers. Then add three Guard Commanders.

Now you are down to 34 cards with a guaranteed kick-#$&*@! last Shadow phase.

As for the good guys, you have to use Gimli, Dwarf of Erebor with this deck. If you have that Cave Troll a little early, why not put him beneath your draw deck? Coupled with Goblin Sneak, this guy will run the train. I have always found dwarves to be about endurance until card stacking came about, so:
Drop one Gimli's Helm
Drop one Dwarf Guard
Drop three Dwarven Armors
Drop three Hand Axes
Drop four Flurry of Blows
Drop one Till Durin Wakes Again
Drop two Power According to His Stature

Add one Greatest Kingdom of My People or Bilbo, Well Spoken Gentle-Hobbit
Add two Gimli's Battle Axe
Add one Dwarven Axe
Add one Grimir, Dwarven Elder
Add two Dwarven Hearts
Add two Bounders
Add one There and Back Again

Use Frodo, Old Bilbo's Heir.

Listen, when it comes to swarm, you have two copies of Sting and so you'll do alright there. Your real concern should be Direct Wounding. Hate destroys this deck.

But good luck!
-wtk

The New Guy · « **Reply #24 on:** November 07, 2010, 06:16:37 PM »

To fend of Balrog's(with my Hobbit deckthat still needs some work) I use, granted you have them inyour hand, but I use Hobbit stealth.

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