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[bibfortuna25]

The 'Standard' filter in the deckbuilder doesn't work. When I select it from the dropdown menu, it still shows cards from the FOTR and TTT blocks.

But only those that have been reprinted in expansions legal in Standard, correct?

No. For example, I saw Legolas, Greenleaf in the section of Standard. There is no version of Greenleaf that is legal in Standard, since Standard does not include cards from sets 1-6

Here is the screenshot showing this.
As you can clearly see, it shows two versions of Legolas that are not legal in Standard: Greenleaf and Son of Thranduil.

[ramolnar]

Return to Its Master did not play correctly at site 6 (and yes, I know it's complicated):

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=ramolnar$8cwpjntdfldxxzi5

I waited until at the end of the fierce skirmish phase with Nelya. The Ring was on, because Vrado had converted a wound to a burden. I should have been able to assign a Nazgul to Frodo, but nothing happened.

[MarcinS]

Return to Its Master did not play correctly at site 6 (and yes, I know it's complicated):

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=ramolnar$8cwpjntdfldxxzi5

I waited until at the end of the fierce skirmish phase with Nelya. The Ring was on, because Vrado had converted a wound to a burden. I should have been able to assign a Nazgul to Frodo, but nothing happened.

Hmm, there are some fundamental problems with the card:
1. If you use it at the end of fierce skirmish, only Fierce minions can be assigned using the card, as you can assign only Fierce minions to skirmish, during fierce skirmishes.
2. You can't use it on a Nazgul or Ring-bearer that is in skirmish you are responding to being ended, as it becomes unassigned only after all responses to end of skirmish have been resolved. Therefore due to rules about assigning, you can't make an assignment that does not create an assignment between two unassigned characters.

This is the reason why the game did not allow you to choose a Nazgul to assign to Ring-bearer. Only one of your Nazguls had Fierce, and it was a Nazgul that was finishing it's skirmish, so was still assigned against a character, at the point, when you used Return to Its Master.

So, from rules point of view, the card works perfectly, though maybe the card should be changed how it works, to achieve what the intention of the card was. If so, we need an agreement how it should be changed.

[MarcinS]

Return to Its Master did not play correctly at site 6 (and yes, I know it's complicated):

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=ramolnar$8cwpjntdfldxxzi5

I waited until at the end of the fierce skirmish phase with Nelya. The Ring was on, because Vrado had converted a wound to a burden. I should have been able to assign a Nazgul to Frodo, but nothing happened.

Ok, I made a following change, and it should be working now (after restart):
- "Return to Its Master" now also ends current skirmish, to allow assigning the Nazgul and Ring-bearer that were
skirmishing at the time when it is played.

[bibfortuna25]

For Return to Its Master, it doesn't matter if the Nazgul is fierce or not. It creates a skirmish phase separate from the regular and fierce fights, similar to The Witch-king's Beast, Fell Creature and A Dark Shape Sprang. In theory, you could use RTIM and Fell Creature to make a single Nazgul fight 4 times if you want.

[Not a Zombie]

could actually do 6 if you have 3x RTIM in hand

[ramolnar]

For Return to Its Master, it doesn't matter if the Nazgul is fierce or not. It creates a skirmish phase separate from the regular and fierce fights, similar to The Witch-king's Beast, Fell Creature and A Dark Shape Sprang. In theory, you could use RTIM and Fell Creature to make a single Nazgul fight 4 times if you want.

I've interpreted Return to Its Master like this, which allows for a double, triple, or quadruple RTIM.
Interesting question: What if I play RTIM after a normal skirmish, but there are fierce Nazgul? Does it go Normal - RTIM - Fierce, or Normal - RTIM? I think it's the first, because it cancels the remaining skirmishes, but not the Fierce Assignment phase. I classify RTIM skirmishes are "Out of Time", like the End of Time in Chrono Trigger.

[bibfortuna25]

If you play RTIM during a "normal" skirmish phase, it will immediately jump in and start its own skirmish. But you still perform any fierce assignments and skirmishes afterwards (as well as Fell Creature, if applicable).

[bibfortuna25]

Hunters Block no longer shows up on the deckbuilder dropdown menu.

[MarcinS]

For Return to Its Master, it doesn't matter if the Nazgul is fierce or not. It creates a skirmish phase separate from the regular and fierce fights, similar to The Witch-king's Beast, Fell Creature and A Dark Shape Sprang. In theory, you could use RTIM and Fell Creature to make a single Nazgul fight 4 times if you want.

You are incorrect. RTIM only creates a new assignment (and cancels previous ones). Its wording is completely different from both Fell Creature and A Dark Shape Sprang, which explicitly mention separate Skirmish phase, while RTIM only creates an assignment. The skirmish phase for RTIM is created due to normal rules of "resolve one skirmish at a time, until there are no skirmishes left". Therefore if you are in a Fierce skirmishes and you use RTIM, the skirmish that gets created due to an assignment made with RTIM is also a Fierce skirmish, and cards like Filibert Bolger can be used during it.

[MarcinS]

Hunters Block no longer shows up on the deckbuilder dropdown menu.

Added it on next restart.

[bibfortuna25]

For Return to Its Master, it doesn't matter if the Nazgul is fierce or not. It creates a skirmish phase separate from the regular and fierce fights, similar to The Witch-king's Beast, Fell Creature and A Dark Shape Sprang. In theory, you could use RTIM and Fell Creature to make a single Nazgul fight 4 times if you want.

You are incorrect. RTIM only creates a new assignment (and cancels previous ones). Its wording is completely different from both Fell Creature and A Dark Shape Sprang, which explicitly mention separate Skirmish phase, while RTIM only creates an assignment. The skirmish phase for RTIM is created due to normal rules of "resolve one skirmish at a time, until there are no skirmishes left". Therefore if you are in a Fierce skirmishes and you use RTIM, the skirmish that gets created due to an assignment made with RTIM is also a Fierce skirmish, and cards like Filibert Bolger can be used during it.

Nope. Check the clarification on the RTIM wiki page. It explicitly says that the RTIM skirmish is separate from any regular or fierce skirmishes.

[MarcinS]

For Return to Its Master, it doesn't matter if the Nazgul is fierce or not. It creates a skirmish phase separate from the regular and fierce fights, similar to The Witch-king's Beast, Fell Creature and A Dark Shape Sprang. In theory, you could use RTIM and Fell Creature to make a single Nazgul fight 4 times if you want.

You are incorrect. RTIM only creates a new assignment (and cancels previous ones). Its wording is completely different from both Fell Creature and A Dark Shape Sprang, which explicitly mention separate Skirmish phase, while RTIM only creates an assignment. The skirmish phase for RTIM is created due to normal rules of "resolve one skirmish at a time, until there are no skirmishes left". Therefore if you are in a Fierce skirmishes and you use RTIM, the skirmish that gets created due to an assignment made with RTIM is also a Fierce skirmish, and cards like Filibert Bolger can be used during it.

Nope. Check the clarification on the RTIM wiki page. It explicitly says that the RTIM skirmish is separate from any regular or fierce skirmishes.

So, can the RTIM create an invalid assignment skirmish (like A Dark Shape Sprang can), or not? So, can I start a skirmish between Ring-bearer and Nazgul that normally (due to some other card actions) could not be assigned to it, or does it still follow the assignment preventions (unlike A Dark Shape Sprang)?

[bibfortuna25]

It creates a skirmish phase separate from the normal and fierce skirmish phases. If some other card effect prevented either the Ring-bearer or the Nazgul from being assigned entirely, then RTIM wouldn't work.

[-Enola-]

Hello,

There is a problem with Harrowdale, the site is used even if we aren't at this site.

Game link : (Pb at site 5)
http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=Enola$w25paljdzh6p4rdr

Thanks for all