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March 10, 2014, 11:56:29 PM
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Re: Breeding Pit
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2014, 11:56:29 PM »
I feel like you could fit in a single Isengard Smith to get in one big possession dump before you swarm, especially since you've got Shaman in there anyway. At the very least, you'll be able to get rid of Sting which might be the difference between an overwhelmed Frodo or a surviving one with 8 burdens.
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March 22, 2014, 04:35:03 PM
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« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2014, 04:35:03 PM »
A couple notes:

I actually faced this deck before I read this post and I thought it was an awesome idea, glad I found it on the message boards.

A couple points though:
1. Your deck only has 2 copies of Saruman. The deck I faced must have had 4 copies, and trust me, it is a huge deterrent from double-moving when your opponent drops Saruman and nothing else after your first move. Especially at Site 4 or 7. By preventing the opponent from sprinting along you give yourself more time to run through your deck and set everything up. If your opponent is able to double move each turn thanks to lack of minions, you may not be able to set up the "pit" in time.

2. Would it make sense to substitute out the Ravagers for Messengers? They only cost 2 (1 at the Slopes) and would be Strength of 9 also when there is a weather condition. Would be helpful if you were facing a choke deck and/or if they discard your Hollowing of Isengards. The drawbacks are only 1 vitality of course, but Spies would eliminate archery and Snows would eliminate PatHS. And if the opponent Sentinels your weather condition they are lowly 6 strength minions.

3. What is you optimum final hand for site 9?
Saruman, 3 Lieutenants, 3 Ravagers, 1 Captain?
Substitute a Ravager for a Spies of Saruman if you are facing archery?

March 23, 2014, 01:31:36 PM
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Re: Breeding Pit
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2014, 01:31:36 PM »
Thanks for the feedback guys!

legolas 3333: He would be cool, but I doubt very much I'd be able to get him to survive till the regroup phase before site 9. Typically possessions aren't a big deal.

BigRedMF:
Thanks for checking it out! I didn't know other people were running this deck :)

1. That may be a good idea, I've toyed with increasing the number before. I'll give it a shot

2. The ravagers are only 2 cost when saruman is in play (1 cost at site 9) and the extra vitality can be nice in earlier sites. Plus, if for some reason you don't get the weather condition, the ravagers can survive PATHS and are stronger.

3. Exactly. If you don't manage to keep AFVOTA then sub another ravager for Sarumans Snows. Use the uruk captain to play whatever you can afford. Ideally another uruk lieutenant
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March 24, 2014, 06:10:39 PM
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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2014, 06:10:39 PM »
Brain-fart! I was thinking Ravagers cost 2, forgetting about the Slopes reducing their cost by 1. Yes by all means Ravagers are the better choice over Messengers.

Thanks for the follow-up

March 30, 2014, 08:02:29 AM
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« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2014, 08:02:29 AM »
How do you handle Horn decks?

March 30, 2014, 11:07:21 AM
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Re: Breeding Pit
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2014, 11:07:21 AM »
Anduin Confluence site 7.  Horn annoys this deck, but depending on the setup it can still win, even against pathfinder.  Saruman and 6 uruks with Spies, Snows and Frost out still normally wins, even if 2 allies can fight.

November 29, 2018, 11:30:30 AM
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Re: Breeding Pit
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2018, 11:30:30 AM »
http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=Sweet$f6eukeajx379q1d4

Played this deck again recently. The fellowship could use some survivability, but man is the shadow satisfying.
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November 29, 2018, 01:54:26 PM
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Re: Breeding Pit
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2018, 01:54:26 PM »
Very nice replay. Did just enough to hold on as long as you could. I understand the cycling, but maybe Gandalf, Friend of the Shirefolk is the better call there and I don't see how Prince of Mirkwood does that much more for you than the traditional Greenleaf. Those guys can also be healed with Frodo's Pipe.
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November 29, 2018, 04:33:20 PM
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Re: Breeding Pit
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2018, 04:33:20 PM »
I used to use greenleaf, but I had huge trouble with nazgual's at early sites. PoM has saved me many times, and I just burn him vs uruks. Gandalf is probably a good call though
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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2020, 10:43:07 AM »
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