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November 02, 2013, 06:17:02 PM
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Re: and hes back on it... bring on a reset!
« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2013, 06:17:02 PM »
It is different because the S-foil cards don't exist in reality. They are essentially fanon cards that are ridiculously overpriced. They have no place being in GEMP. Removing them is not akin to removing anything else.

November 02, 2013, 06:24:21 PM
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« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2013, 06:24:21 PM »
One thing-if the trade 4 for a foil option is removed, how am I supposed to get another foil tengwar Greenleaf?

On a slightly more serious note, nobody has said anything about the rare promos.  The Ghan-Buri-Ghan I won in a tournament has risen from about 4k to over 7k since I got him.  Stormcrow and the like are far more valuable (despite Wise Guide being almost indisputably better)-which would be enough to re-break the merchant if Hunters S cards get programmed in.  However I do like that they are hard to come by.

I say don't reset the cards.  Maybe reset the merchant prices (and possibly everyone's gold), and fix it so that fixed cards are either fixed price, or available from the starters.  That way those who have taken advantage are happy not to lose their collection, but there is a chance for those of us who have built their collections fairly.  Plus I keep my Foil Tengwar Legolas.

By the way, I have 4 more tengwar options that are perhaps a tad superfluous.  Any suggestions for a cool tengwar foil I can make?  Otherwise I may blow them on the coolest Reluctant Adventurer out there.  

November 03, 2013, 03:26:04 AM
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Re: and hes back on it... bring on a reset!
« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2013, 03:26:04 AM »
EDIT: One of the key points for a reset is also that people don't want to play dailies anymore, because people are not in need of winning 10 boosters, since they can afford to get 2000.
There are multiple reasons why ppl gave up on dailies: Playing unusual lengthy games against phone users, playing against multi-tablers, the gold o/c AND the prizes have been reduced (I mailed MarcinS about 1.5 months ago about a solution and you know what happened). Don't forget, that daily prizes were reduced because some ppl just joined to drop and cash in the packs (to the point that ALL participants dropped to score 10 - on multiple occasions). So I made the suggestion to MarcinS to reduce the prizes again. And he did, they are now the same as pre-reset. You just got used to top 8 prizes, is all.

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[...] who might give up when they have to play on equal terms.
Yeah, totally! I have no skill at all other then playing with high priced R cards. Darn, you got me there...

For the record: I am totally okay with certain cards being very high prized, as long as they aren't vital to any deck type. Brute is not vital to corruption, Morcs or anything else. Hides is vital to Dunland, Goblin Armory is vital to a point to Moria. Those cards should stay higher, but not crazy high. And if you think Movie Block is high priced, look at Expanded.

November 03, 2013, 09:44:39 AM
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Re: and hes back on it... bring on a reset!
« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2013, 09:44:39 AM »
@Legion
What point is there in a gold reset when people who have had infinite gold, already got all the cards?


"That way those who have taken advantage are happy not to lose their collection, but there is a chance for those of us who have built their collections fairly."
Why is it needed to keep those who apparently didn'd build their collections, happy? I don't think there should be any special notice taken for those who play the game "unfairly" as you say.

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Yeah, totally! I have no skill at all other then playing with high priced R cards. Darn, you got me there...


I didn't direct it towards you personally, but since you took it that way, there's probably some truth to it.

November 06, 2013, 05:39:08 AM
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Re: and hes back on it... bring on a reset!
« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2013, 05:39:08 AM »
It really wouldn't bother me, whatever happens, reset or not.

I don't want to get involved in the argument, and I won't complain either way.

Whether or not people are "supposed" to have that much money isn't really the point, I think. I agree that it's kind of glitchy that pulling an S foil allowed me to buy that many packs, but the real point is, what are people doing with that money.

I have bought only one rare card (Ugluk, because I was bored of trying to get him in boosters) since I made that much money, and have only made foils from cards I pulled from boosters.

In fact, I only open boosters, primarily, to sell the high-value cards. I have sold every single brute, hides, etc, that I've opened among dozens of other expensive rares (28 Gondor Bowmen and 18 Sarumans, anyone?).

I think if more people did this, from time to time, with their money, there would be no reason for people to complain that the system is "broken".

But as for the reset - whatevs. I mostly enjoy the sealed anyway :)

November 06, 2013, 02:54:56 PM
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« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2013, 02:54:56 PM »
A reset would sadden me as my Promos for Tournament wins and Tengwars will be sorely missed.  However, I daresay that I would try to build my collection back anyway.  My FotR Pipe/Archery deck is quite cheap, really.  However, we've already had 1 reset.  This would be a second, and 3 would just be tiresome.  If it happens, I would rather get it right.  I believe that there would be no reason to stop the sale of singles provided the prices don't get out of control.  This would mean making Fixed cards and promos (Otherwise Ghan Buri Ghan is going to break it) either easily openable in packs (like an all set 0 option) or just off limits.  Or make them unsellable.  Nobody should be selling those extra rares, anyway.  I would accept the loss of my collection for this, but not twice.

November 07, 2013, 05:24:30 AM
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Re: and hes back on it... bring on a reset!
« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2013, 05:24:30 AM »
A reset would sadden me as my Promos for Tournament wins and Tengwars will be sorely missed.  However, I daresay that I would try to build my collection back anyway.  My FotR Pipe/Archery deck is quite cheap, really.  However, we've already had 1 reset.  This would be a second, and 3 would just be tiresome.  If it happens, I would rather get it right.  I believe that there would be no reason to stop the sale of singles provided the prices don't get out of control.  This would mean making Fixed cards and promos (Otherwise Ghan Buri Ghan is going to break it) either easily openable in packs (like an all set 0 option) or just off limits.  Or make them unsellable.  Nobody should be selling those extra rares, anyway.  I would accept the loss of my collection for this, but not twice.

I see where ur coming from, and obviously a reset would need to fix these problems, not just reset and let them happen again, which is what happened from the previous "resets".

And on to dmaz - I'm not sure what to say. 28 gondor bowman, 18 saruman. Nice. Seems legit. Keep opening boosters, you have earned it.

"I think if more people did this, from time to time, with their money, there would be no reason for people to complain that the system is "broken"."
This quote just amazes me. What's broken to begin with is that you have that amount of "money"

November 08, 2013, 11:12:45 AM
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Re: and hes back on it... bring on a reset!
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2013, 11:12:45 AM »
In fact, I only open boosters, primarily, to sell the high-value cards. I have sold every single brute, hides, etc, that I've opened among dozens of other expensive rares (28 Gondor Bowmen and 18 Sarumans, anyone?).

I think if more people did this, from time to time, with their money, there would be no reason for people to complain that the system is "broken".

I think the system will remain "broken" so long as there are no pricecaps, and no way to buy Hunters starters. In fact, for this (and other reasons), I've come to view "My Cards" as basically a rich man's game, with no real place for me. So, I guess I don't have strong feelings about a reset after all. What I DO have strong feelings about, is this:

I'm not sure who is doing it, but somebody has been causing the server to repeatedly crash this morning. Is there a way we can make it so either:

1) You can't open multiple packs at a time.
2) Opening multiple packs doesn't cause the server to freeze.

I think it is pretty clear at this point that any time there is a significant amount of pack opening going on, it REALLY jacks up the server. Makes it nearly impossible to play. If that problem can't be corrected, I'd be in favor of doing away with My Cards entirely, just to stop all that merchant activity from jacking up the server.
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December 09, 2013, 11:41:17 AM
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« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2013, 11:41:17 AM »
I agree with sgtdraino..
I know the reset is coming, but we should try to think as well of contingency measures to avoid server lags.
So if the new merchant scheme solves it, great!

But I think additional measures should be included to prevent server lag (i.e, allow you to open 1 booster maximum per hour?) so that if anything goes odd and we couldn't anticipate to it, we can at least still game on.
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January 08, 2014, 05:51:04 PM
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Re: and hes back on it... bring on a reset!
« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2014, 05:51:04 PM »
Reset everything including the Tengwar cards.  The Tengwar would be a completely unfair advantage.  Many were gotten from abused means.  Get rid of the merchant except for selling cards at the proposed lowered rates.  That way my cards would be really fair.

January 09, 2014, 06:57:10 AM
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Re: and hes back on it... bring on a reset!
« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2014, 06:57:10 AM »
Tengwar cards will be considered "Trophies" and the current plan is that they will be usable in All Cards games only.  This eliminates the "unfair advantage" aspect, but keeps the "WOW!" factor for those who want to show off.

Unless MarcinS gets busy again, the reset should happen this weekend.