and hes back on it... bring on a reset!

[UnPapayaCoconut]

I wasn't sure if I should open another thread to make it more visible or post it here. I'll try it here.
Please RESET  "my cards" and REMOVE singles. I think it's gotten a bit out of hand.

"[Oct 5 01:40:38] dmaz: as of this morning I had opened a total of 2,200 packs and only pulled 12 brutes"

This is just one of many examples.
People aren't supposed to afford 2,200 packs, but with this infinity circle, he and others can keep buying boosters forever. This doesn't only ruin for a majority of the players (those who aren't interested in the my cards-genre) but it also ruins for those who care about my cards and don't want to apply the same methods, as it's broken and pretty much makes it the same as all cards.

I know that the same people will complain about this "I want to keep my virtual tengwars that I achieved from playing my top tier deck achieved from abusing a broken merchant".. well - take a screenshot of it, keep it as ur avatar or whatever, nobody cares about how many tournaments people have won anyway, honestly. This way you can keep bragging rights if u feel like its absolutely neccessary.

I know I'll prolly have alot of people against me on this one, but please add ur thoughts here.

And I apologize for any spelling or grammar errors, It's not my first language.

UPC

[CoS]

Set up a poll.  I'd vote to forfeit my 15-16 odd tengwar and my 134554 gold to have a reset and a merchant that did NOT sell singles did NOT buy singles and did not allow people to "buy" foils....

this would be the best for both the site as well as the community (although many who have built up their collections since the reset earlier in the year would probably not be willing to do it for a 3rd time)

[UnPapayaCoconut]

Set up a poll.  I'd vote to forfeit my 15-16 odd tengwar and my 134554 gold to have a reset and a merchant that did NOT sell singles did NOT buy singles and did not allow people to "buy" foils....

this would be the best for both the site as well as the community (although many who have built up their collections since the reset earlier in the year would probably not be willing to do it for a 3rd time)

Added a poll, tell me if there's any other options ya'll would like in there.
I'm one of those who has been around since before the last reset, and I agree with what you say.

[Air Power]

Is there an option to not sell singles, but still allow us to "upgrade" foils?  Is trading 4 for a foil itself somehow abusive?

[CoS]

Trading 4 cards for foils is one of the major reasons that the price of some sought after cards are so expensive. Also foiling cards detracts from the true rarity and prestige of actually pulled pack foils.

[Skeeve]

Vote No.  And turn off singles.  My collection is the most painfully gathered, and a work of art and hard work.  It is not finished, and I have avoided the merchant since this fiasco started.  I also pushed for singles to be turned off before the last reset.

I pulled my one S card by accident, since I cannot open non-expanded boosters from prize support (some non-expanded commons I cannot sell, and foiling them is too expensive).  I wish I could undo it.

A Reset would have to have some bonus tho, like one of every starter, then yer 50 gold to join leagues or buy boosters.

MarcinS should allow people to keep their collections with a gold reset (and singles turned off) for a donation of $50 or something.  I would pay it.  You can even reset my 45 gold.

[UnPapayaCoconut]

Vote No.  And turn off singles.  My collection is the most painfully gathered, and a work of art and hard work.  It is not finished, and I have avoided the merchant since this fiasco started.  I also pushed for singles to be turned off before the last reset.

I pulled my one S card by accident, since I cannot open non-expanded boosters from prize support (some non-expanded commons I cannot sell, and foiling them is too expensive).  I wish I could undo it.

A Reset would have to have some bonus tho, like one of every starter, then yer 50 gold to join leagues or buy boosters.

MarcinS should allow people to keep their collections with a gold reset (and singles turned off) for a donation of $50 or something.  I would pay it.  You can even reset my 45 gold.

Just reseting the gold would be useless since those who achieved infinite gold already has every card available through this "abuse", and then it wouldn't really change anything at all. Or well it would make it even harder for others to catch up.

[Skeeve]

Resetting the gold will keep people from opening 300 packs in 300 seconds, and foiling which drives up prices (which won't be a problem if the merchant singles are removed).  However, opening of many many packs will still happen until the gold is depleted.  For some, that might be a long time.

[Eukalyptus]

Voted no. Though I would be for a removal of the foil option.

[ramolnar]

No. If "My Cards" is to be a viable option, and not just Super Sealed, there has to be a way to acquire cards to build decent decks. Trading is complicated and would lead to puppet accounts, so that means buying singles.

This has been a fascinating study in economic markets. I believe the economic problem is not buying singles. It's being able to sell singles for really high prices, and really high buy prices. If the cost of a booster pack is 10 gold, which was about US$3 in real life, the cost of the most expensive rare should never be above 500 gold, the equivalent of US$150. In Magic, Jace the Mind Sculptor costs about $100, and he's a relatively better card than anything in LotR.

As others have mentioned, the foil option also acts as a card sink. If I recall, hsiale and MarcinS were terrified of inflation and made a lot of card sinks. The December 2012 price reset was supposed to fix things, but not having a price cap led to scarce lottery tickets.

[argyles]

First of all i dont think the reset at dec 2012 fixed a lot of things .
what i would like to see is :

a ) reset all the collections ( excluding the tengwar cards but if this is not possible i wouldnt care a lot of the greater good )
b ) remove the buying / selling single cards , impletement ONLY buying starters / boosters.
c ) at every new account ( plus of course the ones that got reseted from a option ) give 1 starter from each collection + a couple of boosters from each collection ( 5 i think should be enouph ) .
d ) keep the 50 weekly gold thingy .
e ) keep the same prizes from tournaments .
f ) foils should come only from boosters
g ) remove the entrance fee for my cards tournaments .

a should fix the exploited mofos who abused the system .
b should fix the future tries of those mofos + it would feel again like opening a booster like old times .
c should give a start to all players and new ones who will come at the future . People who are playing this game for more time as time passes will have a better collection (like it supposed to be ) BUT not having everything they want and a new player could challenge them to a fair point.
f should give the foils the rarity they should have + will make the tournament prizes making more sence.
ps : sorry for my bad english  . pizza_fan aka argyles here

[Not a Zombie]

^ Agreed. Whenever singles can be sold, my cards tourneys just turn into constructed, at least for those who have been around enough. Then anyone new just gets blown away at every turn.

[UnPapayaCoconut]

^ Agreed. Whenever singles can be sold, my cards tourneys just turn into constructed, at least for those who have been around enough. Then anyone new just gets blown away at every turn.

This is very true. I  agree with pretty much everything pizza_fan wrote aswell, even though tengwars obviously must go away aswell, or else those players would be given an extremely huge edge when restarting (unless they were only available for show in like all cards or so.)

And I know that 11 > 8, but I still think there's enough reasons to make a reset come through by now. I don't see any argument going against it.
I see people who explained why they vote no, even though their explanation instead suggest a reset would be the best thing.


UPC

[bign19]

I would love a reset and only opening packs. I see all cards and my cards tournaments as the same thing. Argyles has great ideas.

[nicociacco]

Voted NO. price cup and gold reset will be enough. Also not allowed foiling.