Looking at the starter deck lists that decipher implemented for the LOTR Online TCG, it appears that every fellowship block starter included 2 hobbit Intuitions and a weapon for Frodo. I think that would be a good start for all of the TS starters that we are planning on making. Levels the playing field and we could keep the RB Skirmish Cancel rule.
I definitely agree. One of the advantages to the TT Sealed Aragorn deck was simply the stealths. Like you suggest, I think it would be nice to invest in some stealth support for serie 1. Combining it with your suggestion for Hobbit swords, could it looks something like this?
Each deck in Serie 1: 2
Severed His Bonds, 2
Hobbit SwordEach deck in Serie 2: 2
Hobbit SwordDeciding on this ahead of time will help us decide on which Fellowships to run 1st and 2nd series, as there will be a tiny bit of investment for Frodo/Hobbits
My distribution suggestion:
Series 1: 2 Starter deck choices + 2 FotR booster, 2 TT booster, 2 booster choices
Series 2: 2 Starter deck choices + 2 packs of each MoM and BoHD
Series 3: 2 Starter deck choices + 2 packs of each RotEL and EoF
Series 4: 1 pack of each FotR, MoM, RotEL, TTT, BoHD and EoF
Looks great to me! I guess we are getting one more booster than usual per Serie 2 and 3, but I can't see that being such a major problem. I'd be happy to endorse this distribution.
I think that Shoulder to Shoulder deck too powerful, maybe a deck for series 3. I encountered StS with Greenleaf and C/U dwarves in FotR Sealed and it proved very powerful. Sure, it does give twilight, but it also heals very easy.
While it's a fun idea, I am worried about it being too strong. We can try to keep a close eye on it in play-testing. For those of us who have some extra time, it wouldn't hurt to play-test just above every possible combination per series, then post the replays here. If
Shoulder to Shoulder just obliterates everything, we could see if it can be nerfed. If not, we'll just abandoned altogether.
2x Morgul Skulker
2x The Witch-king, Deathless Lord
3x Úlairë Attëa, The Easterling
3x Úlairë Enquëa, Ringwraith in Twilight
3x Úlairë Otsëa, Ringwraith in Twilight
3x Fell Beast
3x Nazgul Sword
3x It Wants to be Found
4x Threshold of Shadow
2x In Twilight
2x Moving This Way
As the Nazgul culture in general is very heavy in Uncommons (I think there were no commons at all at least through FotR), it would be extremely powerful for a starter deck if we over-capitalized on just the Nazgul cards. That's why I tried to incorporate some of those Sauron Wraiths. Low cost so your hand doesn't get too clogged if they are tyring to choke, and can work together with the Nazgul strategy in a very
low-key way, which is good for a Starter deck. I don't think
In Twilight is
too overpowered here, but what I'm really worried about is x3
Nazgul Sword and
Moving This Way. It's not uncommon for the Ringbearer to be running around with 3 burdens in sealed, and with the chance to have a
Nazgul Sword on a Fierce Witch King quite often is pretty devastating. I remember in Movie sealed, those who pulled Nazgul Swords were sitting quite pretty. In the WotR Sealed,
Moving This Way is definitely one of the most dynamic cards for the available shadows. It not only lets you cycle for free, but helps you set up a bomb for the last site. If you look at the Fellowships in WotR sealed that are standing up against this (
Leader of the Company with
G for Grand, etc), they are a lot more prepared for dealing with these kind of Nazgul...I fear that most fellowships in TS Sealed would get completely romped by this :S
1. Shadow Archer deck, a 'Hate & Arrows' one:
(30 cards)
4x Uruk Crossbow Troop
4x Uruk Crossbowman
4x Goblin Bowman
3x Goblin Runner
3x Moria Archer Troop
3x Hate and Anger
2x One of You Must Do This
1x Saruman's Power
2x Host of Thousands
2x Saruman's Ambition
2x They Are Coming
Key sites:
4 White Mountains
5 Deep of Helm
60% minions. This is a poorman's version of an Isengard/Moria Archery deck, which should use 3x Ranged Commander and at least 2x Weapons of Isengard. If there would be a rare per side, it should be Ranged Commander.
Cool idea! This would be a very neat take on the whole Archery type Shadow. If we went exclusively Moria/Isengard, it would definitely distinguish itself from the pre-existing Movie Sealed archery deck
2. Unconditional Dwarves, a Dwarf/Gandalf deck:
Ringbearer: Frodo, Reluctant Adventurer
(30 cards)
2x Dwarven Warrior
1x Farin, Dwarven Emissary
1x Fror, Gimli's Kinsman
1x Gimli, Lively Combatant
3x Gandalf, The Grey Pilgrim (maybe The White Wizard instead, as it is a 30 cards deck)
1x Grimir, Dwarven Elder
1x Barliman Butterbur, Prancing Pony Proprietor
2x Dwarven Axe
2x Dwarven Bracers
2x Hand Axe
1x Wizard Staff
1x Hobbit Sword
3x Axe Strike
1x Flurry of Blows
2x Mysterious Wizard
2x Sleep Caradhras
2x Hobbit Intuition
2x Dwarven Heart
Key sites:
maybe 6 Hornburg Armory
Cheap version of my Fellowship Daily deck, those 'pesky dwarves' as Eukalyptus once said. Indeed, there's a condition, but the idea is to blow it with Sleep Caradhras after healing a little bearded one with it... maybe Have Patience instead, but that would be less amusing .
This deck just doesn't mix with strategies based on Shoulder to Shoulder, Endurance of Dwarves, fortifications or any condition, and exerts Gandy and adds twilight each time he sweeps the table, so don't worry about it being overpowered. Strong against Uruk Trackers (and Sauron Grind if well timed), very weak against Archery.
Foreign cards are Gimli, Lively Combatant and Dwarven Warrior. For the latter, if anyone gets upset by the idea of a 6 strenght non-unique dwarf, you should worry more about those almost always 8 strenght Elite Riders...
As for cards from other sets, there are really more than 5 in Movie Sealed: Mr. Underhill, Maiden of Rivendell, Anarion, Forthwith Banished and Stormcrow. A total of 10 = 5 promo + 5 post Mount Doom.
I'm kind of intrigued by the
Dwarven Heart then discard them with Sleep idea
very unique, and as its kind of a back-door strategy to healing, and not really seen in constructed (I've only seen it once when combined with
Axe of Erebor, which is pretty cool), it has kind of a Starter Deck feel to it.
The only thing I think we could develop would be the use of
Dwarven Warrior...not because he's a generic 6/3 companion (we are gonna have Knights running around hopefully that are the same), but because of the discard two from top of the deck text. In the starter decks that I'm aware of the only cards that provide unconditional discarding from either hand or deck is limited to 1 per card.
Uruk Warrior and
Orc Inquisitor. That and as its not part of the original format, maybe they could be traded for some different dwarves?
Some general thoughts:
After looking at lots of starter deck lists, they seem to have 4, but usually no more than 5 additional companions per deck. I think it would be good for us to limit our decks to this number (of course there should be multiple copies of a unique companion). When done this way, it fosters more use from the boosters, and the combining of starter decks, or use of more skirmish events or possessions. For example, if you are decked out with 9 companions in the Knights deck, you could just stick with them the whole League. If they were limited to 4 or 5 companions (not including Frodo), then next Serie your choice of Starter deck, and the companions it contains would matter more, as you start to develop your own deck's identity
This is kind of how I've observed sealeds to work, and I kind of like it...any thoughts?
Also on total card count. Movie Sealed does 30/30...I'm OK with that, but I'm inclined to bring it down to 27/27 or 28/28, if possible, to encourage more uniqueness among decks through the use of booster pulls. With 30/30, you might just end up seeing a bunch of clone decks with the only difference being the best rare booster pulls. What do you guys think?