I just drew your attention to the fact that in your Movie Block X-list on this forum, there is nothing against this infinite loop.......
Very clever setup! Though...
Thanks!
Why not restrict Namarie rather than ban? "Restrict" is one per deck right?
This won't play a roll.
Namarie can be replayed from the discard pile and meanwhile all Goblin amories, all deceits, all
goblin hordes, etc - simply all shadow conditions are discarded... or in the regroup all elven conditions are replayed from the discard pile (
ancient blade, etc.) - and this is repeated site by site by site bye site... r-list won't help anything... X-list is a must for
Namarie.
Okay, this is getting a bit out of hand.
Olorin- we understand you invented the format. It sounds very interesting and very cool. I like it. But the game belongs to the players, and not one particular person.
I say that you have two versions of the format: 1 using the PPE X-list, which is the most widely accepted "fair-format" X-list, and then a second using the Movie Block and Standard X-list.
Thanks NB. Your suggestion sounds logically - BUT: we need ONE X-/R-list for that format. We all know decipher made a lot of mistakes - especially in the later sets. The format ruled by my idea just sounds so best and simple.
And you're right - the game belongs to the players... so anyone may play as he or she wants - but if you play a format "AUSTRIAN FORMAT" it would be as listed here.
Of course I am open for any other suggestions concerning everything... but first, I want that everybody understand how it works - the set up is simple and nearly perfect as I think.
Enola is correct, the X-list is to stop devastating infinite loops and abusable cards. Namarie is easily dealt with as it is a condition, but some people dont like it as it gets used A LOT.
Namarie is not just a conditon which you just discard and don't see again --> Gil-gald HkofN
Namarie kill decks - I want that older shadows like Moria, etc. also have got a chance -
Namarie destroys decks - I don't understand why you don't realize the brokeness of that card.
Namarie doesn't only discard ALL conditions easily... it can therefore decide a game (e.g. condition based shadows).
Namarie doesn't only discard ALL conditions easily... as it is a cards where - when played - are added so much tokens (not just one...)... so many other conditions can be replayed (
take up the bow,
elven marksmanship,
ancient blade,
leaving forever, and further
Namarie).
Elven hunters are already overpowered - or do you think that Rumil and Orophin decks with an excellent threat removal machine (
into the west), healing (farwell to lorien,
nenya, etc.), condition discard and condition replay engine is balanced? infinite direct damage...
I thougtht about this format and it is good as it is. If anyone have other wishes how an X-list should look like it won't work.
I also know why
Elrohir started here a public discussion - he plays
Namarie... I know his decks very well.
But I don't like further discussions on
Namarie.
The format is simple to understand... only a few cards are on X- or R-list... and again... the format is simple. It allows to play nearly everything (like expanded) without beeing broken - and expanded is broken.
If anyone has ideas on other cards than
Namarie on the X- or R-list you could post it here... perhaps someone gives even reason to put a card onto that list (other infinite loops which I didn't consider) - then I would like to know...
...and how about
The shire countryside now? Is there a problem of infinite loop now?
and especially to you
Elrohir: no further discussions about
Namarie please. Be happy Gil is not banned and there are other cards that replay a lot elven conditions in the regroup. - fine - Ende - finito!