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October 16, 2008, 11:59:16 AM
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« on: October 16, 2008, 11:59:16 AM »
Vote away. If I get a majority in favor of the idea I'll present it to Kralik via PM.
If you pick the third button tell me what you don't understand and I'll explain so you can re-edit your vote.
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October 16, 2008, 12:45:28 PM
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2008, 12:45:28 PM »
It has already been discussed with him by the mods. So far, the answer is "no".
I, for one, am totally AGAINST it, since I think it'll derail to flaming a LOT, and it's just gonna become an excuse to be harsh to other people "But it's a debate Forum!". I honestly don't see a reason why debating topics wouldn't belong in the Council of Cobra, specially think I'm particularly fond of posting not counting towards your total, so only peolpe ACTUALLY INTERESTED post.

October 16, 2008, 02:39:29 PM
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Re: Debate Sub-forum
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2008, 02:39:29 PM »
Actually, this has been debated in the mod forum, and the answer is definitely maybe. I'm in favor of it, but I'm not going to repeat the arguments here and restart the debate. Trust me, your mods are arguing about it. :D
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October 16, 2008, 02:51:21 PM
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Re: Debate Sub-forum
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2008, 02:51:21 PM »
now are we going to start a debate called "should we do a debate forum?" anyway, I'm in favor of it.
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October 16, 2008, 03:19:04 PM
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Re: Debate Sub-forum
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2008, 03:19:04 PM »
The irony of the debate of whether we should have a debate forum has not been lost.

I am against it, for the reasons F_M gave. Encourage debate and discussion, but an area for insults and offense...  [-X
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October 16, 2008, 03:21:31 PM
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Re: Debate Sub-forum
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2008, 03:21:31 PM »
Yes, but if you don't want to debate in it you don't have to. And tJ, it would not be an area for insults but for sane,
reasonable debate.

October 16, 2008, 03:25:17 PM
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Re: Debate Sub-forum
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2008, 03:25:17 PM »
I agree GT that the majority of the time it would be constructive and insightful debate. But I am concerned for anyone who is less... thoughtful than the majority of members on here using it as flamewar central.
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October 16, 2008, 06:30:06 PM
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2008, 06:30:06 PM »
I am thinking you could ban people from it ( like only kralik and dain could do it, unless FM and AD mod it...) for a while if they are acting up,,...
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October 16, 2008, 09:55:01 PM
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2008, 09:55:01 PM »
But bottom line is: why wouldn't debate topics (ar any loose topic that spawned a debate, for instance) fit in the Council of Cobra? This IS a main issue, the way I see it. WHY having a Forum specific for that? Of course, because then we could ban people from IT, and not from the CoC. But then again, those who got banned would be able to use the CoC to "rant" about it, since THAT would be a topic that would fit there nicely enough...

October 16, 2008, 10:39:31 PM
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Re: Debate Sub-forum
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2008, 10:39:31 PM »
I am against it, with nothing new to add.

October 17, 2008, 06:54:46 AM
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Re: Debate Sub-forum
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2008, 06:54:46 AM »
Quote from: Felipe Musco
But bottom line is: why wouldn't debate topics (ar any loose topic that spawned a debate, for instance) fit in the Council of Cobra? This IS a main issue, the way I see it. WHY having a Forum specific for that?

My thoughts exactly. I really don't see the need. If someone's misbehaving in any new forum we created enough to be banned from that specific forum, I would think a short-term ban from ALL forums would be warranted anyway. Thus I don't see any need to create a forum that people could know in the back of their minds would result in, at worst, banning only from that one forum if they misbehaved. Just seems to be inviting trouble to me.

The Council is open to ANYTHING, debates very much included, and has plenty of applicable mods to keep an eye on things. There's a reason I gave it more moderators than any other forum here, because I know there's already more potential for trouble than we likely have elsewhere. Why create ANOTHER location to monitor with its own built-in "get out of jail free" card? No thanks.

That all being said, it IS, as others have mentioned, an issue that's already been discussed by the mods and admins and I'm sure will continue to be re-addressed several times in the future. Neither I nor any other one person have the absolute say in this, but those are my thoughts, for what they're worth.
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October 17, 2008, 08:24:10 AM
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Re: Debate Sub-forum
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2008, 08:24:10 AM »
 =D>

THANK you, Mr. Ironfoot! :D
As for our forumers, instead of asking about a Debate Forum, how 'bout asking for a new Riddle Game? ;)

October 17, 2008, 08:40:08 AM
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Re: Debate Sub-forum
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2008, 08:40:08 AM »
Why don't we just make the thread in the mod are visible instead of rehashing all the arguments?
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October 17, 2008, 08:41:26 AM
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Re: Debate Sub-forum
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2008, 08:41:26 AM »
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THANK you, Mr. Ironfoot! :D
As for our forumers, instead of asking about a Debate Forum, how 'bout asking for a new Riddle Game? ;)

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October 17, 2008, 11:40:59 AM
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Re: Debate Sub-forum
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2008, 11:40:59 AM »
Speaking about that, what was the answer to 50?