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« on: April 14, 2017, 09:10:24 AM »
All,

I just learned that Mahasamatman's Trading Post website shut down.  It had some info that I think is worth keeping (at least for obsessive collectors like me).

Quote from: http://trade.mahasamatman.com/Rings/Notes.HTML
notes on lord of the rings cards

These notes answer some questions about certain cards in certain sets. There is info on

Treachery and Deceit
Rise of Saruman
Obtaining Second Edition cards
Identifying Helm's Deep misprints
treachery and deceit

The following cards are misnumbered:

Grond, Forged with Black Steel should be 18R82 not 18R72.
Gruesome Meal should be 18R83 not 18R73.
Orkish Axe should be 18C84 not 18C74.
Orkish Aggressor should be 18C85 not 18C75.
Orkish Archer Troop should be 18U86 not 18U76.
Soldier's Cache should be 18U58 not 17U58. (This card was originally supposed to be 17S35.)
rise of saruman

Decipher lists 8 S cards in the set, but 17S35 Soldier's Cache was never printed. This card randomly replaces an Uncommon card in Treachery and Deceit booster packs, and is changed from S card to a U card. Also, the card number is 58 not 35.

In addition, there is a misprint on card number 17U32 Nimble Attack: all cards are missing the U in the card number.

obtaining second edition cards

This table details where you can get the Second Edition (2002) cards for the Lord of the Rings TCG. The starters randomly contain 3 Second Edition cards (in addition to their normal contents). The Draft Boosters contain 1 random Second Edition card and 28 random uncommons & commons.

FotR   Fellowship of the Rings Starter - ß: look for the 'ß' at the end of the copyright text on the bottom of the starters.
MoM   Mines of Moria Starter
RotE   Realm of the Elf-Lords
Draft   Fellowship Draft Boosters
Name   FotR   MoM   RotE   Draft
A Wizard Is Never Late   •           •
Albert Dreary, Entertainer From Bree   •           •
Alive and Unspoiled   •           •
All Veils Removed   •           •
An Able Guide   •           •
Ancient Chieftain   •           •
Anduin Banks       •   •   
Anduin Confluence   •   •       
Anduin Wilderland       •   •   
Aragorn, King in Exile   •           •
Aragorn, Ranger of the North   •           •
Aragorn's Bow   •           •
Arwen, Daughter of Elrond   •           •
Arwen, Elven Rider               •
Arwen's Fate   •           •
Athelas   •           
Axe Strike (Errata A)       •       
Band of the Eye   •           •
Barliman Butterbur, Pr. Pony Propr.   •   •       
Beauty Is Fading   •           •
Bent on Discovery   •           •
Bilbo Baggins, Retired Adventurer   •           •
Black Steed   •           •
Blade of Gondor   •           •
Border Defenses           •   •
Boromir, Defender of Minas Tirith               •
Boromir, Lord of Gondor   •           •
Boromir, Son of Denethor   •   •   •   •
Bounder   •           
Bow of the Galadhrim   •           •
Bred for Battle   •       •   
Bree Gate   •       •   
Breeland Forest           •   
Caradhras Has Not Forgiven Us   •           •
Cave Troll of Moria, S. of the B. Pit   •           •
Cave Troll's Hammer   •           •
Celeborn, Lord of Lórien   •           •
Change of Plans (Errata A)   •           •
Cleaving Blow               •
Coat of Mail (Errata A)           •   
Council Courtyard   •   •       
Cruel Caradhras   •           •
Curse Their Foul Feet!   •           •
Dark Whispers   •           •
Defiance   •       •   •
Delving               •
Denizens Enraged   •           •
Despair   •           •
Desperate Defense of the Ring   •           •
Desperate Measures (Errata A)   •           •
Dimrill Dale   •   •       
Double Shot   •           •
Drums in the Deep   •   •       
Durin's Secret   •           •
Dwarf Guard       •       •
Dwarrowdelf Chamber       •       
Dwarven Armor (Errata A)       •       
Dwarven Axe (Errata A)       •       •
East Road   •           
Elendil's Valor       •       
Elrond, Lord of Rivendell   •           •
Emyn Muil   •       •   
Enduring Evil   •           •
Enheartened Foe   •           •
Eregion's Trails   •           
Ettenmoors   •   •       
Farin, Dwarven Emissary       •       •
Farmer Maggot, Chaser of Rascals   •           •
Farmer Maggot's Field       •       
Far-seeing Eyes (Errata A)           •   
Fear   •           •
Foes of Mordor           •   
Fool of a Took!   •           •
Foul Creation           •   
Frodo, Old Bilbo's Heir   •           •
Frodo, Reluctant Adventurer           •   
Frodo, Son of Drogo   •       •   
Frodo's Bedroom       •       
Frór, Gimli's Kinsman               •
Galadriel, Lady of Light   •           •
Galadriel's Glade   •       •   
Gandalf, Friend of the Shirefolk   •           •
Gandalf, The Grey Wizard   •           •
Gimli, Dwarf of Erebor (Errata A)           •   •
Gimli, Dwarf of Erebor   •           
Gimli, Dwarf of the Mountain-Race               •
Gimli, Son of Glóin   •           •
Gimli's Battle Axe   •           •
Gimli's Helm   •           •
Glamdring   •           •
Goblin Archer   •           •
Goblin Armory   •           •
Goblin Bowman               •
Goblin Domain   •           •
Goblin Flankers               •
Goblin Marksman (Errata A)               •
Goblin Marksman   •           
Goblin Patrol Troop               •
Goblin Pursuer               •
Goblin Reinforcements               •
Goblin Runner   •   •       •
Goblin Scavengers   •   •       •
Goblin Scimitar   •           
Goblin Sneak   •           
Goblin Spear       •       
Goblin Swarms   •           •
Goblin Wallcrawlers               •
Great Shield   •           
Greatest Kingdom of My People   •           •
Greed   •           •
Guard Commander   •           •
Gwemegil   •           •
Haldir, Elf of the Golden Wood           •   •
Hate   •           •
Here Lies Balin, Son of Fundun       •       
Hobbit Intuition               •
Hobbit Stealth               •
Hobbit Sword   •   •   •   •
Hobbiton Woods           •   
Host of Thousands   •   •       
Hosts of the Last Alliance           •   •
In the Ringwraith's Wake   •           •
Intimidate   •   •       •
Isengard Retainer               •
Isengard Servant               •
Isengard Shaman               •
Isengard Worker               •
Journey Into Danger   •           •
Legolas, Greenleaf   •           •
Legolas, Prince of Mirkwood   •   •   •   •
Legolas, Son of Thranduil               •
Lost to the Goblins   •           •
Lothlórien Woods       •   •   
Lurtz, Servant of Isengard   •           •
Lurtz's Battle Cry   •           •
Merry, Friend to Sam   •           •
Merry, From O'er the Brandywine       •   •   •
Merry, Horticulturalist               •
Mithril Mine   •           
Mithril Shaft   •           •
Mordor Enraged   •           •
Mordor Strength       •   •   
Morgul Blade   •           •
Morgul Gates   •           •
Morgul Hunter   •           •
Morgul Warden   •           •
Moria Archer Troop               •
Moria Axe   •           •
Moria Lake   •   •       
Moria Scout   •           
Mysterious Wizard   •   •       •
No Stranger to the Shadows   •       •   
Noble Intentions   •           
Nobody Tosses a Dwarf   •           •
Orc Ambusher (misprint)       •       
Orc Assassin (misprint)       •       
Orc Assassin               •
Orc Banner   •           •
Orc Bowmen   •           •
Orc Butchery (Errata A)   •           •
Orc Cheiftain       •       
Orc Hunters       •       •
Orc Inquisitor       •       
Orc Pillager               •
Orc Scimitar           •   
Orc Scout               •
Orc Scouting Band               •
Orc Soldier           •   •
Orc Veteran               •
Orc War Band   •           •
Orthanc Assassin   •           •
Ottar, Man of Laketown   •           •
Parry   •           •
Pass of Caradhas (Errata A)           •   
Pathfinder   •           
Pillars of the Kings   •       •   
Pippin, Hobbit of Some Intelligence   •           •
Pippin, Mr. Took               •
Power According to His Stature   •           •
Pursuit Just Behind   •           •
Questions That Need Answering   •           •
Ranger's Sword               •
Relics of Moria   •           •
Return to Its Master   •           •
Rivendell Terrace   •       •   
Sam, Faithful Companion   •           •
Sam, Proper Poet (Errata A)               •
Sam, Son of Hamfast   •           
Sam, Son of Hamfest (Errata A)               •
Saruman, Servant of the Eye               •
Saruman's Ambition   •           
Saruman's Reach   •           •
Saurman's Snows (Errata A)           •   
Savagery to Match Their Numbers   •           •
Seeking Its Master   •           •
Sentinels of Númenor           •   •
Servant of the Secret Fire   •           •
Shores of Nen Hithoel   •   •       
Silverlode Banks   •       •   
Slopes of Amon Hen   •           
Spies of Saruman   •           •
Stairs of Khazad-Dûm       •       
Stand Against Darkness       •       
Still Draws Breath       •       
Sting   •           •
Stone Trolls   •           •
Strength Born of Fear           •   
Strength of Kings   •           •
Strength of Spirit       •       
Summit of Amon Hen       •       
Swordarm of the White Tow. (Errata A)       •       
Swordarm of the White Tower   •           
Swordsman of the Northern Kingdom   •       •   
The Bridge of Khazad-dûm   •   •   •   
The Choice of Lúthien   •           •
The Council of Elrond   •           •
The End Comes   •           •
The Gaffer, Sam's Father   •           •
The Irresistible Shadow   •           •
The Last Alliance of Elves and Men   •           •
The Long Dark       •       
The Mirror of Galadriel (Errata A)   •           
The Mirror of Galadriel (Errata B)               •
The Misadventure of Mr. Underhill   •           •
The Nine Walkers   •           •
The One Ring, Isildur's Bane   •           •
The One Ring, The Ruling Ring   •   •   •   
The Pale Blade   •           •
The Saga of Elendil   •           •
The Splendor of Their Banners   •           •
The Tale of Gil-galad (Errata A)   •           •
The Twilight World   •           •
The Underdeeps of Moria   •           •
The Weight of a Legacy   •           •
The Witch-king, Lord of Angmar   •           •
Their Arrows Enrage   •           
Their Halls of Stone   •           •
There and Back Again               •
They Are Coming   •           
Thin and Stretched   •           •
Thrarin, Dwarven Smith       •       
Thrór's Map   •           •
Tol Brandir       •   •   
Tower Lieutenant           •   
Treachery Deeper Than You Know   •           
Troll's Keyward   •           •
Trollshaw Forest       •       
Troop of Uruk-hai   •           •
Trust Me As You Once Did               •
Úlairë Attëa, Keeper of Dol Guldur   •           •
Úlairë Cantëa, Lieutenant of Dol Gul.   •           •
Úlairë Enquëa, Lieutenant of Morgul               •
Úlairë Nertëa, Messenger of Dol Gul.               •
Úlairë Toldëa, Messenger of Morgul   •           •
Under the Watching Eye       •       
Uruk Brood               •
Uruk Guard   •           •
Uruk Lieutenant   •           •
Uruk Rager (Errata A)   •       •   
Uruk Savage (Errata A)               •
Uruk Savage   •       •   
Uruk Scout           •   
Uruk Shaman   •           •
Uruk Slayer   •           
Uruk Soldier (Errata A)   •           •
Uruk Spy   •           •
Uruk-hai Armory   •           
Uruk-hai Raiding Party (Errata A)               •
Uruk-hai Raiding Party   •       •   
Uruk-hai Sword (Errata A)           •   
Valiant Man of the West   •           •
Wealth of Moria   •           •
Westfarthing   •   •   •   
What Are They?           •   
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identifying helm's deep misprints

Here is a description of the Helm's Deep misprint cards. There is also an image that points out the differences.

Baruk Khazad - 5R5 (foil only)
Top left corner: Diamond within circle. The Diamond shouldn't be there.
Theoden, KotGH 5C93 (misprint #1)
Top right corner: ink smudge over circle.
Theoden, KotGH 5C93 (misprint #2)
Along the side: solid black ink dot.
Defending The Keep 5C6
Ink smudge within Title bar.
Mumak 5C73
Twilight # is doubled. The outline of the number is off.
Warg 5C65
There is some sort of squiggle in the Title Bar.
War Must Be 5C43
Ink smudge within Title bar.
City Wall 5C33
There is some sort of squiggle in the Title Bar.
Citadel of the Stars 5C32
Ink smudge within Title bar.
We Must Have It 5C30
Ink smudge within Title bar.
Poor Wretch 5C27
Ink smudge within Title bar.
Southron Traveler 5C76
Twilight # is doubled. The outline of the number is off.
Southron Runner 5C75
Twilight # is doubled. The outline of the number is off.
Southron Marcher 5C74
Twilight # is doubled. The outline of the number is off.
Uruk Engineer 5C61
There is some sort of squiggle in the Title Bar above the word URUK.

I'll come back later to clean up the formatting.
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March 07, 2018, 02:10:02 AM
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2018, 02:10:02 AM »
Learn more and learn how to find other channels. Can you recommend this knowledge?