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November 07, 2008, 08:40:30 AM
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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2008, 08:40:30 AM »
[3] G for Grand Card Image [Gandalf]
 Condition • Support Area
 While you can spot Gandalf, Each companion with the Gandalf signet is strength +1.
11V32
"To them he was just one of the 'Attractions' at the party, thus the excitement of the hobbit-children."

now this one, really doesn't need to be flashy, but it can really boost your strategy

[3] Prolonged Struggle [Gandalf]
Event • Skirmish
Exert Gandalf and spot 2 companions who  have the Gandalf signet to wound a minion that Wizard is skirmishing twice.
11V39

I've never really understood why this card isn't used more...sicne these cards are smiple I'm going to throw something out there...just a very strange idea.


[4] Gandalf, Uniter of Free Folk [Gandalf]
Companion • Wizard
Strength • 7
Vitality • 4
Signet • Gandalf
While the fellowship is in region 1, each companion gains the Elrond  signet.
While the fellowship is in region 2, each companion gains the Theoden signet.
While the fellowship is in region 3, each companion gains the Aragorn signet.

this is the guy who can start uniting the fellowship into one group of signets...now I am considering some major revisions, perhaps changing it into the Gimli/legolas signets instead of elrond/theoden, and change the title to reflect uniting the fellowship.  In that way he could be run with a rainbow fellowship, and yet use cards that spot signets.
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November 07, 2008, 09:19:40 AM
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Re: SoP's Signets (Shadows, remaking already made cards)
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2008, 09:19:40 AM »
[3] G for Grand Card Image [Gandalf]
 Condition • Support Area
 While you can spot Gandalf, Each companion with the Gandalf signet is strength +1.
11V32
"To them he was just one of the 'Attractions' at the party, thus the excitement of the hobbit-children."

I love G for Grand; this ones even better!  :up:

[3] Prolonged Struggle [Gandalf]
Event • Skirmish
Exert a [Gandalf] Wizard and spot 2 companions who  have the Gandalf signet to wound a minion that Wizard is skirmishing twice.
11V39

Good, good. Definitely better than its 'real' counterpart.  ;D

[4] Gandalf, Uniter of Free Folk [Gandalf]
Companion • Wizard
Strength • 7
Vitality • 4
Resistance • 7
While the fellowship is in region 1, each companion gains the Aragorn signet.
While the fellowship is in region 2, each companion gains the Elrond signet.
While the fellowship is in region 3, each companion gains the Theoden signet.

Cool! I don't think I ever seen a rainbow signet card.  :P

I really like the Gandalf, keep it up.

November 09, 2008, 02:48:29 AM
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Re: SoP's Signets (Shadows, remaking already made cards)
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2008, 02:48:29 AM »
[3] G for Grand Card Image [Gandalf]
 Condition • Support Area
 While you can spot Gandalf, Each companion with the Gandalf signet is strength +1.
11V32
"To them he was just one of the 'Attractions' at the party, thus the excitement of the hobbit-children."

[3] Prolonged Struggle [Gandalf]
Event • Skirmish
Exert a [Gandalf] Wizard and spot 2 companions who  have the Gandalf signet to wound a minion that Wizard is skirmishing twice.
11V39
Both of these I feel if you're going to talk about [Gandalf] signets, the cards should work with Gandalf only.

[4] Gandalf, Uniter of Free Folk [Gandalf]
Companion • Wizard
Strength • 7
Vitality • 4
Resistance • 7
While the fellowship is in region 1, each companion gains the Aragorn signet.
While the fellowship is in region 2, each companion gains the Elrond signet.
While the fellowship is in region 3, each companion gains the Theoden signet.
This is a cool idea, but I think folllowing the story closest would be: Elrond, Theoden, Aragorn for regions 1, 2 and 3 respectively. You start off with Elrond being the focus of the Free Peoples efforts to destroy Sauron with the council, then you move to Rohan, then Aragorn becomes king. If you were making a set themed around signets, I don't think you should have any companions with a printed resistance (except obviously the Ring-bearer) - I would give this guy a signet (Frodo?) or simply leave him without one and maybe add a keyword or two or make him strength 8.

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November 09, 2008, 06:45:19 AM
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Re: SoP's Signets (Shadows, remaking already made cards)
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2008, 06:45:19 AM »
[3] G for Grand Card Image [Gandalf]
 Condition • Support Area
 While you can spot Gandalf, Each companion with the Gandalf signet is strength +1.
11V32
"To them he was just one of the 'Attractions' at the party, thus the excitement of the hobbit-children."

Nifty.

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[3] Prolonged Struggle [Gandalf]
Event • Skirmish
Exert a [Gandalf] Wizard and spot 2 companions who have the Gandalf signet to wound a minion that Wizard is skirmishing twice.
11V39

I like the original - I like this one better. :up:

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[4] Gandalf, Uniter of Free Folk [Gandalf]
Companion • Wizard
Strength • 7
Vitality • 4
Resistance • 7
While the fellowship is in region 1, each companion gains the Aragorn signet.
While the fellowship is in region 2, each companion gains the Elrond signet.
While the fellowship is in region 3, each companion gains the Theoden signet.

Second Thran on order of signets. Should definitely go Elrond, Theoden, Aragorn. And again I agree with Thran - this guy should have a signet of his own. Gandalf, probably.
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November 09, 2008, 10:41:18 AM
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Re: SoP's Signets (Shadows, remaking already made cards)
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2008, 10:41:18 AM »
my bad...I screwed up and went on automatic. WIll change the order of signets.
(though I was thinking fellowship of the ring with this version, though in that case I shouldn't have theoden...)
I'll go with your order...any suggestions for lore?
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November 14, 2008, 10:38:36 AM
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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2008, 10:38:36 AM »
I'm going to try something new...instead of remaking cards, I'm going to start branching out some, starting with the dwarf culture.

check that, I'm gonna throw some 3 hunters strategies around, and see what i get.

first, the three hutners themselves.  Obviously for now, you can't really judge them as you haven't seen all of their stuff, but bear with me, I'll spoil weapons and such later this week.

[2] Legolas, Fleet-footed Hunter [Elven]
Companion • Elf
Strength • 6
Vitality • 3
Signet • Legolas
Archer
While you can spot Gimli, Legolas gains the Gimli signet and is Damage +1 while at a mountain site.
While you can spot Aragorn, Legolas gains the Aragorn signet and gains [ranger].

ok nvm I'm just gonna start with Legolas.  This is like your basic common version...nothing special, but he can have 3 signets.

[2] Legolas' Bow, Hunter's Weapon [Elven]
Possession • Ranged Weapon
Strength • +1
Bearer must be Legolas.  At the start of the archery phase, you may add a threat and exert X companions with the Legolas signets (limit 3) to wound a minion X times.


I'm just messing around here, trying to get a figure for what I'm doing here...Basic 3 hunters support here, if you've got your hunters, you can knock off that big bad minion.

[2]Long-knives of Legolas, Hunter's Weapon [Elven]
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength • +1
Bearer must be Legolas.
While He has the Aragorn signet, he is strength +2. While has the the Gimli signet, He is damage +1.

ok I couldn't figure out what to do with these knives...help?
« Last Edit: November 21, 2008, 11:01:17 AM by sickofpalantirs »
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November 16, 2008, 08:06:07 AM
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2008, 08:06:07 AM »
[2] Legolas, Fleet-footed Hunter [Elven]
Companion • Elf
Strength • 6
Vitality • 3
Signet • Legolas
While you can spot Gimli, Legolas gains the Gimli signet.
While you can spot Aragorn, Legolas gains the Aragorn signet.
There's no reason why he couldn't be an archer. Other than that, he seems interesting and good in the right deck (though obviously, I have no idea how useful the Gimli and Legolas signets are!).

[2] Legolas' Bow, Hunter's Weapon [Elven]
Possession • Ranged Weapon
Strength • +1
Bearer must be Legolas.  At the start of the archery phase, you may add a threat and exert X companions with the Legolas signets (limit 3) to wound a minion X times.
Yeah fair enough. I quite like this.

[2]Long-knives of Legolas, Hunter's Weapon [Elven]
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength • +1
Bearer must be Legolas.
He is strength +1 for each Aragorn signet you can spot (limit +3).
While you can spot Gimli, he is Vitality plus 1.
This seems very good, and I'm not sure why simple knives are giving vitality bonuses. I would do something like the following: "While you can spot a companion with the Aragorn signet, Legolas is strength +2. While you can spot a companion with the Gimli signet, Legolas is damage +1." Something like that would be awesome! And makes the Legolas above super-awesome! :twisted:

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November 16, 2008, 10:35:20 AM
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Re: SoP's Signets (Shadows, remaking already made cards)
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2008, 10:35:20 AM »
I like that, but I've added a twist, HE has to have the signets. not at first glance it seems fairly easy, after all he can get them quite simply. but I will make another "rare" version of legolas who will be better, but not have that signert ability...in the meantime anymore reviews?
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November 17, 2008, 12:07:23 PM
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Re: SoP's Signets (Shadows, remaking already made cards)
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2008, 12:07:23 PM »
Quote from: sickofpalantirs
[2] Legolas, Fleet-footed Hunter [Elven]
Companion • Elf
Strength • 6
Vitality • 3
Signet • Legolas
Archer
While you can spot Gimli, Legolas gains the Gimli signet.
While you can spot Aragorn, Legolas gains the Aragorn signet.

Iiiiinteresting.

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[2] Legolas' Bow, Hunter's Weapon [Elven]
Possession • Ranged Weapon
Strength • +1
Bearer must be Legolas.  At the start of the archery phase, you may add a threat and exert X companions with the Legolas signets (limit 3) to wound a minion X times.

Nifty. I could easily see building a whole deck around Lego signets and this bow. :uh-huh:

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[2]Long-knives of Legolas, Hunter's Weapon [Elven]
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength • +1
Bearer must be Legolas.
While He has the Aragorn signet, he is strength +2. While has the the Gimli signet, He is damage +1.

A slight rewording suggestion:

Bearer must be Legolas.
While Legolas has the Aragorn signet, he is strength +2.
While Legolas has the Gimli signet, he is damage +1.

Other than that...awesome! :up:
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November 17, 2008, 12:46:18 PM
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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2008, 12:46:18 PM »
[2] Legolas, Fleet-footed Hunter [Elven]
Companion • Elf
Strength • 6
Vitality • 3
Signet • Legolas
Archer
While you can spot Gimli, Legolas gains the Gimli signet.
While you can spot Aragorn, Legolas gains the Aragorn signet.

I'd give him Hunter 1, personally.

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[2] Legolas' Bow, Hunter's Weapon [Elven]
Possession • Ranged Weapon
Strength • +1
Bearer must be Legolas.  At the start of the archery phase, you may add a threat and exert X companions with the Legolas signets (limit 3) to wound a minion X times.

Neat.

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[2]Long-knives of Legolas, Hunter's Weapon [Elven]
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength • +1
Bearer must be Legolas.
While He has the Aragorn signet, he is strength +2. While has the the Gimli signet, He is damage +1.

Ditto Dain. I think strength +3 is a lot to get from a [1] cost weapon, so I might change the strength +2 to a gain of Hunter 1.

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November 17, 2008, 01:21:35 PM
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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2008, 01:21:35 PM »
I haven't decided whether to utilize the hunter mechanic yet...and in case you didn't noticed, its a 2 cost weapon ;)
anyone else think +3 is to much?
don't have time for DC's today I'll try to get em up tomorrow
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November 17, 2008, 01:23:55 PM
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« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2008, 01:23:55 PM »
Hunter is an interesting idea here. I'd at least consider it. Hunter 2 might even be okay.
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November 19, 2008, 10:38:25 AM
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« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2008, 10:38:25 AM »
[4]Aragorn, Swift Hunter [Gondor]
Companion • Man
Strength • 8
Vitality • 4
Signet • Aragorn
Ranger
While you can spot Gimli, Aragorn gains the Gimli signet and while at a mountain site is Damage +1.
While you can spot Legolas, Aragorn gains the Legolas signet and while at a forest site is [archer].



same old same old.

[1]Ranger's Sword, Blade of Aragorn [Gondor]
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Bearer must be Aragorn.  While Aragorn has the Legolas signet, he gains Hunter 1
While Aragorn has the Gimli Signet, he is Damage +1

Considering making it hunter 2, up to you guys. and is it gains hunter or is hunter?

[1]Aragorn's Bow, Rangers Longbow [Gondor]
Possession • Ranged Weapon
Bearer must be Aragorn. If Aragorn has the gimli and legolas signets, at the start of the archery phase you may exert him and A companion with the Aragorn Signet to begin a skirmish phase between him and a minion and wound that minion.  When that Skirmish phase is ended, resume the current phase.

Too complicated? should it give him archer too?

[1]Knife of the Galadhrim [Elven]
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength • +1
Bearer must be Aragorn (or a companion with the Galadriel signet).
If bearer is Aragorn, he may bear this hand weapon in addition to 1 other hand weapon.
If bearer has the Legolas signet, opponents cannot play skirmish events during skirmishes involving bearer.


ok wording a little confusing. is this OP?
« Last Edit: November 21, 2008, 11:01:46 AM by sickofpalantirs »
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November 19, 2008, 10:44:57 AM
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« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2008, 10:44:57 AM »
[4]Aragorn, Swift Hunter [Gondor]
Companion • Man
Strength • 8
Vitality • 4
Signet • Aragorn
While you can spot Gimli, Aragorn gains the Gimli signet.
While you can spot Legolas, Aragorn gains the Legolas signet.
I see how you're trying to make a nice theme, but I'm afraid I'm bored of this text! Either do something entirely different with signets or give him an additional ability like "Response: If a companion with the Aragorn signet is about to take a wound, exert Aragorn to prevent that wound." That's a bit bland, but I really feel that each of the Three Hunters should be in some way unique and I don't want 3 companions with this text!

[1]Ranger's Sword, Blade of Aragorn [Gondor]
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Bearer must be Aragorn.  While Aragorn has the Legolas signet, he is Hunter 1
While Aragorn has the Gimli Signet, he is Damage +1
Just about alright as it is - it should not be hunter 2. Technically, it should be "gains" hunter.

[1]Aragorn's Bow, Rangers Longbow [Gondor]
Possession • Ranged Weapon
Bearer must be Aragorn. He is an Archer.  While you can spot Gimli, he gains Hunter 1.
This is really dull - you could definitely do better! ;) Make it quite similar to your Legolas' Bow.

[1]Knife of the Galadhrim [Elven]
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength • +1
Bearer must be Aragorn (Or a companion with the Galadriel Signet).  If bearer is Aragorn, he may bear this hand weapon in addition to one other hand weapon, and if he has the Legolas Signet, Opponents cannot play skirmish events in skirmishes involving him.
This is too complicated. I would not have the "If bearer is Aragorn..." clause. I would make the card a bit more like this:

Bearer must be Aragorn, or have the Galadriel signet.
If bearer has the Legolas signet, Shadow events may not be played in skirmishes involving bearer.

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November 20, 2008, 08:47:52 AM
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« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2008, 08:47:52 AM »
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[4]Aragorn, Swift Hunter [Gondor]
Companion • Man
Strength • 8
Vitality • 4
Signet • Aragorn
While you can spot Gimli, Aragorn gains the Gimli signet.
While you can spot Legolas, Aragorn gains the Legolas signet.

I agree with Thran. I like the idea of Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli being able to all get each other's signets, but I think each should also have a simple ability that is unique to them. Thran's suggestion is perfect here. Lego's ability could be something related to archery (and tie in his own signet), and Gimli could perhaps give someone with his signet a damage bonus somehow? Perhaps when he wins skirmishes?

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[1]Ranger's Sword, Blade of Aragorn [Gondor]
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Bearer must be Aragorn.  While Aragorn has the Legolas signet, he is Hunter 1
While Aragorn has the Gimli Signet, he is Damage +1

Don't forget periods at the end of your sentences. :P And Thran's right about "gain" vs. "is". Otherwise, looks good to me.

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[1]Aragorn's Bow, Rangers Longbow [Gondor]
Possession • Ranged Weapon
Bearer must be Aragorn. He is an Archer.  While you can spot Gimli, he gains Hunter 1.

Thran's right on the money with this one, too.

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[1]Knife of the Galadhrim [Elven]
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength • +1
Bearer must be Aragorn (Or a companion with the Galadriel Signet).  If bearer is Aragorn, he may bear this hand weapon in addition to one other hand weapon, and if he has the Legolas Signet, Opponents cannot play skirmish events in skirmishes involving him.

I'd word it like this:

Bearer must be Aragorn (or a companion with the Galadriel signet).
If bearer is Aragorn, he may bear this hand weapon in addition to 1 other hand weapon.
If bearer has the Legolas signet, opponents cannot play skirmish events during skirmishes involving bearer.
Best regards,
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