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November 23, 2008, 09:36:59 PM
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I Ruined Lord of the Rings.
« on: November 23, 2008, 09:36:59 PM »
So the entire point of the Fellowship was to take The One Ring back to Mount Doom, the only place where it could be destroyed.

My question is this: Why couldn't Sauron just, you know, sit around inside Mount Doom? Why park yourself in a tower 100 miles away? If he'd waited around at the entrance to Mount Doom there'd have been no way for anybody to ever destroy it.

Thus, Lord of the Rings has been ruined!

November 23, 2008, 11:04:29 PM
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Re: I Ruined Lord of the Rings.
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2008, 11:04:29 PM »
Ofcourse not...Mordor was not to be invaded, he didn't expect it and he was looking into overwhelming the whole of Middle Earth....
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November 24, 2008, 12:16:58 AM
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Re: I Ruined Lord of the Rings.
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2008, 12:16:58 AM »
Gil-Estel is right...

Sauron did not expect anyone to bring the ring back to mordor. Either to ship the ring into the west (Galdor) or to use it against him (Denethor)

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November 24, 2008, 04:27:54 AM
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Re: I Ruined Lord of the Rings.
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2008, 04:27:54 AM »
So the entire point of the Fellowship was to take The One Ring back to Mount Doom, the only place where it could be destroyed.

My question is this: Why couldn't Sauron just, you know, sit around inside Mount Doom? Why park yourself in a tower 100 miles away? If he'd waited around at the entrance to Mount Doom there'd have been no way for anybody to ever destroy it.

Thus, Lord of the Rings has been ruined!

Heck, if he did Gandalf and Frodo would just hire two over-sized eagles and drop the freaking ring in Mt. Doom.  :uh-huh:
Or they could have tricked an eagle into a kamakaze mission...

*The oversized eagle plummets toward Mount Doom with the One Ring tied to its back. A flimsy fishing pole is perched above it with a dead hobbit (or some  other convenient steak) hanging down. The eagle keeps reaching for the meat but as it does it descends into the fiery abyss... sizzle, snap, crackle, pop!!!!*

November 24, 2008, 05:00:31 AM
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Re: I Ruined Lord of the Rings.
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2008, 05:00:31 AM »
*echoes GE's comments*

My question is this: Why couldn't Sauron just, you know, sit around inside Mount Doom? Why park yourself in a tower 100 miles away? If he'd waited around at the entrance to Mount Doom there'd have been no way for anybody to ever destroy it.

Plus, he wasn't in a physical form and "sitting" in Mount Doom wouldn't do much good.

November 24, 2008, 06:46:36 AM
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Re: I Ruined Lord of the Rings.
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2008, 06:46:36 AM »
So the entire point of the Fellowship was to take The One Ring back to Mount Doom, the only place where it could be destroyed.

My question is this: Why couldn't Sauron just, you know, sit around inside Mount Doom? Why park yourself in a tower 100 miles away? If he'd waited around at the entrance to Mount Doom there'd have been no way for anybody to ever destroy it.

Thus, Lord of the Rings has been ruined!

Heck, if he did Gandalf and Frodo would just hire two over-sized eagles and drop the freaking ring in Mt. Doom.  :uh-huh:
Or they could have tricked an eagle into a kamakaze mission...

*The oversized eagle plummets toward Mount Doom with the One Ring tied to its back. A flimsy fishing pole is perched above it with a dead hobbit (or some  other convenient steak) hanging down. The eagle keeps reaching for the meat but as it does it descends into the fiery abyss... sizzle, snap, crackle, pop!!!!*

...or just fed-ex it :S.....
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November 24, 2008, 06:50:06 AM
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Re: I Ruined Lord of the Rings.
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2008, 06:50:06 AM »
So the entire point of the Fellowship was to take The One Ring back to Mount Doom, the only place where it could be destroyed.

My question is this: Why couldn't Sauron just, you know, sit around inside Mount Doom? Why park yourself in a tower 100 miles away? If he'd waited around at the entrance to Mount Doom there'd have been no way for anybody to ever destroy it.

Thus, Lord of the Rings has been ruined!

Heck, if he did Gandalf and Frodo would just hire two over-sized eagles and drop the freaking ring in Mt. Doom.  :uh-huh:
Or they could have tricked an eagle into a kamakaze mission...

*The oversized eagle plummets toward Mount Doom with the One Ring tied to its back. A flimsy fishing pole is perched above it with a dead hobbit (or some  other convenient steak) hanging down. The eagle keeps reaching for the meat but as it does it descends into the fiery abyss... sizzle, snap, crackle, pop!!!!*

...or just fed-ex it :S.....

I have a feeling the Mount Doom postal service might confiscate it, unless it was priority mail.  :D

*Quick Gandalf! we need four more quarters to send it Priority Mail! Otherwise the Ring is going to go snail mail with Frodo and the company!*  :lol:
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November 24, 2008, 12:35:27 PM
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Re: I Ruined Lord of the Rings.
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2008, 12:35:27 PM »
Plus, he wasn't in a physical form and "sitting" in Mount Doom wouldn't do much good.

Eh... I think the incorporeal-eye visualization was made up by Jackson to literally represent "The Eye" of Sauron. Tolkien never mentioned Sauron as disembodied. Sauron was physically present at Barad-dur (minus a finger of course) but severely 'weakened' since his Ring was not with him.

At least, that's what I think. It's up to conjecture.

November 24, 2008, 04:15:39 PM
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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2008, 04:15:39 PM »
Quote from: Return of the King
"The Dark Lord was suddenly aware of him, and his Eye piercing all shadows looked across the plain to the door that he had made...."

"Looked across the plain" implies that the Eye is located at Barad-dûr.

And then from FotR: "It was Gil-galad, Elven-king and Elendil of Westernesse who overthrew Sauron, though they themselves perished in the deed; and Isildur Elendil's son cut the Ring from Sauron's hand and took it for his own. Then Sauron was vanquished and his spirit fled...."

He never took on a physical form after Isildur took the Ring from him IMO.

November 24, 2008, 05:26:02 PM
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Re: I Ruined Lord of the Rings.
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2008, 05:26:02 PM »
If you watch the extras in The Return of the King Extended Edition, Peter Jackson was going to have Sauron come to the Black Gate when the Host of Westernesse appears (replacing the Troll that almost kills Aragorn).
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November 24, 2008, 08:29:16 PM
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Re: I Ruined Lord of the Rings.
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2008, 08:29:16 PM »
yeah, jord is right about that. weird stuff if you ask me, aragorn fighting the dark lord himself...

November 25, 2008, 11:23:45 AM
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« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2008, 11:23:45 AM »
That would have completely killed the trilogy for me.  As it is I can barely watch when the King of the Dead and his fellow ghosts rip through Minas Tirith.  If Sauron had come out to fight.... there are no words to express my disgust at the thought.  Now in a friendly game of lotr tcg he can come out and play all he wants!  :)

November 25, 2008, 11:01:10 PM
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« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2008, 11:01:10 PM »
And there is some form of balance...It takes a lot to make him come, and if he does, well least to say there are some fellowships that have to put some serious thinking into it....
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November 26, 2008, 12:13:09 PM
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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2008, 12:13:09 PM »
Congrats m64 for ruining lotr.  Mailing the ring to mount doom is a great idea.  No x-rays to find out what was in the package!  Much less official post-office regulations cracking down weed-possessors.
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November 28, 2008, 03:33:16 AM
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Re: I Ruined Lord of the Rings.
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2008, 03:33:16 AM »
Did Sauron realise that the ring could be destroyed?

Btw the only ruining of LOTR was creating Erkenbrands HORN (LOL)