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February 02, 2009, 05:57:55 AM
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Moria archer need support!!
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There is one thing, that bothered me all the years in playing the LOTR TCG, that the wonderful Moria archer are so weak, they have no, like Isengard has, WEAPONS, a card, that charges arrows the same way. And another archer, which makes moria archers twilight cost minus one. These two components were the reason why they never had a real system. I named the charging possession:  ARROW STOCK and it is a support area possession. and the archer leader something like the Ranged commander. I still did not make a text, so I wanted this to be discussed. Somethin' like

Shadow: Play an (moria) archer to add an token here

and then remove two in the archery to exert an companion. Further abilities or changes to the cards should be discussed I think. Happy for ideas from all of you mates!  ;D

February 02, 2009, 06:02:32 AM
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February 02, 2009, 06:11:08 AM
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2009, 06:11:08 AM »
 8-)

There is a site for archer, and a commander for Archer and a minion that reduces Fellowship archery. As a weapon you can play the goblin scimitar.

[2] °Arrow Stock [Moria]

Posession ° Support Area

Add a token here for each archer you can spot.
Archery: Spot a [Moria] Archer and remove 2 tokens
from here, to make the minion archery total +1.
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February 02, 2009, 07:02:35 AM
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Re: Moria archer need support!!
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2009, 07:02:35 AM »
Some card like that would help a lot  :up:.
Yes, fellowship block Moria archers indeed need help from:
* Sites (4,6,8)
* Burdens:
That's why I ended up combining the archery with these cards: 2 x Lost to the Goblins + 4 x Must Do Without Hope = 2 x Troubled Mountains. And use 2 x Ulaire Enquea, LoM as well .. it worked for me.
Off course the 4 x Must Do Without Hope are arguable, but you can always use them with 3 x They are Coming for discarding after site 5.
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February 02, 2009, 07:31:54 AM
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Re: Moria archer need support!!
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2009, 07:31:54 AM »
Well, IMO, moria archers are simple but effective. Isengard may have weapons and ranged commander, but they roam until site 5, cost loads more and weapons is a slow way of raising archery, plus can be easily discarded. Plus it's a one time bomb :D I love playing Isen archery, but I reckon it's not that effective, on the other hand, moria can swarm with archers and doesn't need to rely on other cards to win, only minions.

Your card can become very very OP since you can play a huge amount of archers and load this conditions with a million tokens. Take a look at evil men, they have howdah but on the other hand, you can't swarm with evil men archers, so they need howdah and elevated fire. If you combine moria abilities to swarm with yet another condition to raise archery, you'll be throwing so many arrows it'll be wrong :D

February 02, 2009, 07:42:47 AM
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Re: Moria archer need support!!
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2009, 07:42:47 AM »
when you listen, you see I said, I wanna develop that card and the text was an idea, and I definetly do not want that card be an unlimitde thing, weapons isn't either. ;) read careful! And to elrohir. I know that there are a lot of cards for moria, but they do not have somethin' like last gasp or such a thing, I find they have no ''soul'' in play. you put many shadow cards from different cultures to strenghten them, but they do not really rock, there is missing something

February 02, 2009, 07:54:05 AM
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Re: Moria archer need support!!
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2009, 07:54:05 AM »
I totally get you, there's no real theme, there are just minions that are archers.

I'm thinking this could be an event, 1 or 2 twilight:

"Spot 6 [Moria] archers and discard a [Moria] condition to make the minion archery total +3."

Maybe you could work on the amount of archers to spot, conditions to discard and archery to add, but that's how I'd do it ;)

February 02, 2009, 10:12:51 AM
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2009, 10:12:51 AM »
I'd say 4 archers, right now you can have 16 archers in your deck, of course host of thousands and such help, but 6 is pushing it.  Now if you had some sort of ranged commander, and more archers in general....
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February 02, 2009, 10:18:13 AM
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2009, 10:18:13 AM »
I thought about building a [Moria] archery deck with Frenzy. Get some exhausted guys and start messing around with the FP player's assignment to swarm! Maybe some development on that theme, taking the strategy further from already existing, but basically dud, cards. :-k

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February 03, 2009, 02:38:17 AM
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2009, 02:38:17 AM »
I'd say 4 archers, right now you can have 16 archers in your deck, of course host of thousands and such help, but 6 is pushing it.  Now if you had some sort of ranged commander, and more archers in general....

Moria can play 4 archers very easily and so would play this event over and over; with Host of Moria, LotU hanging around, it'd be very dangerous... see, my brother always has a host of moria stacked on a goblin swarms, so whenever he needs a card, he plays him and gets it, and it wins skirmishes and goes back to swarms... with 4 goblin armory out and at least 1 goblin swarms, you play 4 archers easily and get the event back with the host... you could basicly play it every turn. Spotting 6 archers would make it a bit harder.

February 03, 2009, 10:19:04 AM
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2009, 10:19:04 AM »
lets compromise and say 5 ;)
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February 03, 2009, 07:01:09 PM
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Re: Moria archer need support!!
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2009, 07:01:09 PM »
I thought about building a [Moria] archery deck with Frenzy. Get some exhausted guys and start messing around with the FP player's assignment to swarm!

I built a deck just like that.