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February 27, 2009, 09:09:48 AM
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POLL: Players Committee. Let your opinion be heard.
« on: February 27, 2009, 09:09:48 AM »
Quick Poll: Will you please answer these questions:

I'd do it as an actual poll, but I could only figure out how to ask 1 question.

1. How important is it to you that a Player's Committee (PC) is formed to deal with rules questions, overpowered cards, and create new cards?
a. I REALLY want a PC to add life to the game and fix Deciphers mistakes.
b. It would be nice to have new stuff, but not necessary.
c. The game is perfect now. LOTR is dead get over it.
d. Other:

2. What strategy do you prefer the PC use to deal with "overpowered" cards?
a. Bans
b. Restrictions
c. Errata
d. Nothing
e. A mix (please specify)

3. How important to you is it that the templates used on virtual cards is an exact match to current cards?
a. Necessary, without a matching template I won't use them.
b. Important but I can deal with it.
c. Not important, I just want new cards to play with!

4. If a PC is formed and makes a decision you don't like how will you react?
a. Complain but still use the PC's rulings and products.
b. Adapt and play anyway.
c. Quit supporting the PC and keep playing without the PC.
d. Quit playing LOTR.

5. What are you looking for in a PC? What does it need to give the players in your opinion?
Open to your answers.


Thanks guys!
Edit: This is not an official poll by any PC organization.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2009, 10:26:39 AM by jerba »

February 27, 2009, 10:21:18 AM
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Re: POLL: Players Committee. Let your opinion be heard.
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2009, 10:21:18 AM »
1
B

2
C

3
A

4
C

February 27, 2009, 10:29:53 AM
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Re: POLL: Players Committee. Let your opinion be heard.
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2009, 10:29:53 AM »
 1.B
 2.D
 3.C
 4.C
« Last Edit: February 27, 2009, 08:06:09 PM by GarrisonofGondor »
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February 27, 2009, 11:04:14 AM
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Re: POLL: Players Committee. Let your opinion be heard.
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2009, 11:04:14 AM »
1. B
2. E (nothing is to be done with existing cards, new cards have to be made)
3. A
4. C

February 27, 2009, 01:37:24 PM
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Re: POLL: Players Committee. Let your opinion be heard.
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2009, 01:37:24 PM »
GoG, you would stop playing LOTR if you don't like a decision??

February 27, 2009, 08:06:30 PM
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Re: POLL: Players Committee. Let your opinion be heard.
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2009, 08:06:30 PM »
 Read it wrong, changed my decision.
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February 27, 2009, 11:09:09 PM
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Re: POLL: Players Committee. Let your opinion be heard.
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2009, 11:09:09 PM »
Question 1
a) I REALLY want a PC to add life to the game and fix Deciphers mistakes.

Question 2
c. Errata

Question 3
a. Necessary, without a matching template I won't use them.

Question 4
c. Quit supporting the PC and keep playing without the PC.

Question 5
The PC should be a kind of leading role in organizing tournaments and rule questions. It should keep the fellowship together all over the world and make the community stronger. Important is subtleness to not ruin the game more than it already is.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2009, 05:46:37 AM by Elrohir »
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February 28, 2009, 12:25:30 AM
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Re: POLL: Players Committee. Let your opinion be heard.
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2009, 12:25:30 AM »
1a
2e (ban certain combo`s not cards. use errata`s wisely. use restictions. make new cards)
3a
4a (I would only complain in a poll before the rule is made, not after)(I`dd still invent other format/rules and play them beside the original game against G-E or so)(wouldn`t support if it `s not thee official PC)
5 new cards somehow...

February 28, 2009, 02:31:56 AM
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2009, 02:31:56 AM »
1.) a - BUT: it is really very important to get the right people for it!
2.) e - a mix of course! some cards just need a restriction... some cards are so overpowered that no errata would help, so ban it - some cards are useless... etc.
3.) a
4.) c
5.)
- fix decipher mistakes
- spending thoughts on new cards
- invent some mechanics to get life into this game; events, tournaments, promotion...

But again - for a PC it needs really competent people - and, without wanting to offending anyone, such people are rare
they need to be able to keep an objective eye on cards and play mechanism as well as they need to be enduring and have the power and motivation to get some life into this great game, ruined by big D.
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February 28, 2009, 02:44:18 AM
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Re: POLL: Players Committee. Let your opinion be heard.
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2009, 02:44:18 AM »
1. b

We could release virtual cards for online games and create unofficial rulings for any remaining questions, but only an official PC can give them authority. Case in point, the continuing deadlock over what cards should be fixed.

However, it's also possible the PC can make some truly damaging decisions. If the creation of new virtual cards is unfeasible (not remakes--they'd overlay an old card base completely), then wouldn't it be like using up old cards as currency? I'd be nervous about important cards in my deck being changed around for the sake of creating something new.

Basically I'm feeling a mix of "don't knock it until you try it," and "this can really come back to bite us in the rear." But why not move forward and see what happens.

2. e

The full set of bans, restrictions, and erratas gives the PC more tools to work with. Frenzy of Arrows is tantalizingly close to a quick fix (no, not the other quick fix). I'm still rooting for Madril, DoO to be kicked from Expanded.

3. b

By all means get a perfect template! But if a substitute has to be used, just make sure it retains clarity. Incidentally, new cards might get tripped up over the lack of pictures, even if they have the official template--it'd be very difficult to tell the game state at a glance.

4. a/b

Would some of the cards on the current X-lists have gotten there if players didn't continue to protest?

There could always be a legacy format that doesn't use virtual cards at all, although it might keep erratas and the banned list. But seriously, there's no way to split it 10 ways and make them all official.

5.

Make it a point to listen. Don't treat the community as an annoyance. And for heaven's sake, don't end arguments with an "I'm a better player so be quiet" move. Whoever ends up at the top, be nice to the little guys!

February 28, 2009, 03:12:48 AM
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Re: POLL: Players Committee. Let your opinion be heard.
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2009, 03:12:48 AM »
1.a

2.e - a mix of "a" and "b", but please not even more erratas  [-o<

3.a

4.c

5. here i have to agree with elrohir:
The PC should be a kind of leading role in organizing tournamnets and rule questions. It should keep the fellowship together all over the world and make the community stronger. Important is subtleness to not ruin the game more than it already is.

February 28, 2009, 03:33:00 AM
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Re: POLL: Players Committee. Let your opinion be heard.
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2009, 03:33:00 AM »
1:b
2:e, not mix up cards too much, maybe just restrict them in a certain environment
3:a/b..sure, the best thing is the same template, by far, but who knows....
4:b, for the simple reason that it can't be any worse than it is. So I think if there is going to be a PC, they will be dedicated, and willing to listen to the players. Other than that, in non-official play, I can do what ever I want ;)
5:dito on Elrohir. Probably being able to make new cards, new formats, something to work with....
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February 28, 2009, 08:18:19 AM
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Re: POLL: Players Committee. Let your opinion be heard.
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2009, 08:18:19 AM »
1. b. It would be nice to have new stuff, but not necessary.

2. b. Restrictions (as few bans as possible)

3. a. Necessary, without a matching template I won't use them.

4. a. Complain but still use the PC's rulings and products. (and eventually play with some house rules)

5. full ack to Elrohir :-)
« Last Edit: February 28, 2009, 08:21:04 AM by thewitchhunter »

March 01, 2009, 06:56:22 AM
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Re: POLL: Players Committee. Let your opinion be heard.
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2009, 06:56:22 AM »
1. How important is it to you that a Player's Committee (PC) is formed to deal with rules questions, overpowered cards, and create new cards?
a. I REALLY want a PC to add life to the game and fix Deciphers mistakes.

2. What strategy do you prefer the PC use to deal with "overpowered" cards?
e. A mix (restrictions & errata)

3. How important to you is it that the templates used on virtual cards is an exact match to current cards?
b. Important but I can deal with it.

4. If a PC is formed and makes a decision you don't like how will you react?
a. Complain but still use the PC's rulings and products.

5. What are you looking for in a PC? What does it need to give the players in your opinion?
Same anwser as Elrohi, but I would like to see action towards Decipher, Weta and other licenceholders to see what's possible to create new cards: Virtual or/and not virtual!

March 02, 2009, 06:49:34 AM
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Re: POLL: Players Committee. Let your opinion be heard.
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2009, 06:49:34 AM »

1. How important is it to you that a Player's Committee (PC) is formed to deal with rules questions, overpowered cards, and create new cards?
a. I REALLY want a PC to add life to the game and fix Deciphers mistakes.


2. What strategy do you prefer the PC use to deal with "overpowered" cards?
a. Bans

3. How important to you is it that the templates used on virtual cards is an exact match to current cards?
a. Necessary, without a matching template I won't use them.

4. If a PC is formed and makes a decision you don't like how will you react?
a. Complain but still use the PC's rulings and products.

5. What are you looking for in a PC? What does it need to give the players in your opinion?

Common sense. The ability to judge a cards 'brokeness' in all situations not just a couple of biased uses. Not much else really, would be nice just to have something that ressurected a bit of a fire in the ashes of LOTR TCG.

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