Obsession with Moria

[Selrahc]

So, you see, I have an obsession with the Moria culture. 

Posting of Moria-cultured cards is greatly encouraged. I love seeing what other people have (especially since I tend to create WAY overpowered cards about, oh, say, 1 for every 2 I create).

•Shelter of Moria
Condition • Support Area
If this card is not played in region 1, remove .
Maneuver: Spot 2 minions and remove to reveal your opponent's hand.
Regroup: Discard this condition to add a threat.
"'If this is shelter, then one wall and no roof make a house.'"

--Selrahc

[lem0nhead]

Ack youre not kidding about power are you!? If youre playing this card then youre playing moria in which case youll always be able to spot 2 orcses and so for 1 twilight to see the freeps hand every turn is a bit harsh. Youd have to up the cost a bit to justify it really.

[Thranduil]

•Shelter of Moria
Condition • Support Area
If this card is not played in region 1, remove .
Maneuver: Spot 2 minions and remove to reveal your opponent's hand.
Regroup: Discard this condition to add a threat.
"'If this is shelter, then one wall and no roof make a house.'"

I don't understand the point of the first line, I think I'd just remove it and make the card cost . Lem0n's probably right; I would probably go for removing to reveal a hand. And how about something on this card that supports underground sites? Maybe making it cheaper (you could have "If this card is not played at an underground site, remove ") or requiring one of the abilities to be underground.

Thranduil

[King89]

here's my opinion:
it's unique and because of that it looks balanced and to reveal the freepeople player's hand during the maneuver is fine, too.
but: adding one threat during regroup seems to me very useless with . please take it out, seriously.

[Selrahc]

But, but, but, I really like the threat adding..... Don't you think that Moria is threatening? Haha. Okay, is this somewhat better?

•Shelter of Moria
Condition • Support Area
If this card is not played at an underground site, remove .
Maneuver: Spot 2 minions and remove to reveal your opponent's hand.
Regroup: Discard this condition and a minion to exert 2 unbound companions.
"'If this is shelter, then one wall and no roof make a house.'"

--Selrahc

[lem0nhead]

But, but, but, I really like the threat adding..... Don't you think that Moria is threatening? Haha. Okay, is this somewhat better?

Haha the threat bit is balanced mate i didnt really have a problem with it but i think King is saying its a bit pointless. Moria dont need threats so whats the point?

•Shelter of Moria
Condition • Support Area
If this card is not played at an underground site, remove .
Maneuver: Spot 2 minions and remove to reveal your opponent's hand.
Regroup: Discard this condition and a minion to exert 2 unbound companions.
"'If this is shelter, then one wall and no roof make a house.'"

--Selrahc

Still need to make it cost 2 to reveal the hand i say, and id change the new bit to 1 companion otherwise its too good.

[Pepin The Breve]

   I don't think that 1 cost is too much at maneuver phase.

   Just compare with Bound to its Fate (11U110). Reveals at shadow phase and can add a burden or discard an event from hand for the same 1 twilight.

[lem0nhead]

U cant compare a condition and an event.

[Pepin The Breve]

U cant compare a condition and an event.

Wow that was a condition??? 

 My bad then i taught was an event too...maybe a more careful read next time 

[Selrahc]

Perhaps this version will be more satisfactory?

•Shelter of Moria
Condition • Support Area
If this card is not played at an underground site, remove .
Maneuver: Spot 3 orcs (or 2 minions that are not orcs) and remove to reveal your opponent's hand.
Regroup: Discard this condition and a minion to exert 2 unbound companions with resistance of 4 or less.
"'If this is shelter, then one wall and no roof make a house.'"

And how about a couple more mind boggling cards.

Tainted Dagger
Possession • Hand Weapon
Bearer must be a orc.
If bearer is exhausted, it is strength +1.
While you can spot more than 6 burdens, bearer is strength +1.

^Is that one's twilight cost okay?^

Skilled Climber
Condition
Play on a orc.
Limit 1 per character.
While at an underground or mountain site, bearer is strength +2.

^Correct wording?^

--Selrahc

[Thranduil]

•Shelter of Moria
Condition • Support Area
If this card is not played at an underground site, remove .
Maneuver: Spot 3 orcs (or 2 minions that are not orcs) and remove to reveal your opponent's hand.
Regroup: Discard this condition and a minion to exert 2 unbound companions with resistance of 4 or less.
"'If this is shelter, then one wall and no roof make a house.'"

I would just remove the parentheses and possibly the regroup ability for cleanness. A card which reveals people's hands is pretty fine in itself.

Tainted Dagger
Possession • Hand Weapon
Bearer must be a orc.
If bearer is exhausted, it is strength +1.
While you can spot more than 6 burdens, bearer is strength +1.

This is a bit un-[Moria] seeing as they never had more than a halfhearted amount of burden adding. I like the "If bearer is exhausted bit..." and I might just make that the point of the card and make it strength +2/3.

Skilled Climber
Condition
Play on a orc.
Limit 1 per character.
While at an underground or mountain site, bearer is strength +2.

Tis fair enough, but unless you can move it around it's a bit useless for a Shadow player because minions keep dying. I'd like some kind of way to transfer it to and from your support area so that you can keep it from site to site.

Thranduil

[Selrahc]

•Shelter of Moria
Condition • Support Area
If this card is not played at an underground site, remove .
Maneuver: Spot 3 orcs or 2 minions that are not orcs and remove to reveal your opponent's hand.
"'If this is shelter, then one wall and no roof make a house.'"

Tainted Dagger
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength: +1
Bearer must be a orc.
If bearer is exhausted, it is strength +1.

Skilled Climber
Condition • Support Area
Shadow: You may transfer this to a orc.
Limit 1 per character.
While at an underground or mountain site, bearer is strength +2.
Regroup: If bearer is not exhausted, you may transfer this card to your support area.

^Is that one better? I don't want it to be too easy to transfer it back and forth from the support area to a character.^

--Selrahc

[Not a Zombie]

The tainted dagger doesn't seem all that good, there are 0 twilight moria possesions that allow you to draw cards. I would say make it strength+2 for 0 twilight with the given text.

For skilled climber: I like it, but instead of the exhausted bit, maybe remove 2 or something? Or make a response action that says "If this condition is discarded while born by an orc, play it from your discard pile to your support area". It would still cost the 2 twilight, and since moria orcs generally have very little vitality, I think it would make it more playable.

[MR. Lurtzy]

That skilled climber card is awesome.

[Selrahc]

Tainted Dagger
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength: +1
Bearer must be a orc.
If bearer is exhausted, it is strength +1.
Regroup: If bearer is exhausted, you may discard this card to exert an unbound companion.

^Somewhat better?^

•Whip of Many Thongs, Weapon of Flame
Artifact • Hand Weapon
Strength: +2
Bearer must be The Balrog.
Skirmish: Discard this card to make The Balrog fierce until the start of the regroup phase.

[13] •The Balrog, Wizard Bane
Minion
Strength: 17
Vitality: 5
Site #: 4
Damage +1.
The Balrog is strength +X where X equals the amount of wizards you can spot.
Skirmish: Spot The Balrog skirmishing a wizard and exert The Balrog three times to discard all cards that the wizard bears.
Regroup: The free peoples player may discard a staff that a free peoples wizard bears to discard The Balrog.

--Selrahc