Author Topic: Obsession with Moria (Read 16036 times)

MR. Lurtzy · « **Reply #15 on:** March 26, 2009, 07:01:21 PM »

With the balrog, I think it would be awesome if you changed the first ability to "The Balrog is vitality +X where X is the amount of wizards you can spot."

Selrahc · « **Reply #16 on:** March 27, 2009, 05:31:33 PM »

You don't think that it would make it too much?

So, the next card isn't of the Moria culture, but it does have something involving it.

•Gollum, Lurker in the Mines

Minion
Strength: 5
Vitality: 4
Site #: 3
Lurker.
Shadow: Exert Gollum and spot a

orc to add a threat (limit 1). The free peoples player may exert a companion to prevent this.
Response: Each time a

orc is killed, you may remove a threat to heal Gollum.
Regroup: Exert Gollum twice to place him in your hand.

--Selrahc

MR. Lurtzy · « **Reply #17 on:** March 27, 2009, 10:42:15 PM »

Wording on the last ability should be "Exert Gollum twice to return him to your hand." I like him, but the response ability seems unnecessary

Aragorn_Ellessar · « **Reply #18 on:** March 28, 2009, 02:33:11 AM »

Or you could change the response to:

Response: Each time a [Goblin] orc is killed, you may exert Gollum to take a card from your discard pile and place it on top of your deck.

Selrahc · « **Reply #19 on:** March 29, 2009, 04:54:39 PM »

•Gollum, Lurker in the Mines

Minion
Strength: 5
Vitality: 4
Site #: 3
Lurker.
Shadow: Exert Gollum and spot a

orc to add a threat (limit 1). The free peoples player may exert a companion to prevent this.
Regroup: Exert Gollum twice to return him to your hand.

^Changed like you said, MR. Lurtzy.^

Hidden Archer

Minion • Orc
Strength: 4
Vitality: 3
Site #: 4
Lurker. Archer.
To play, spot a

archer.
If a

orc is killed in a skirmish, you may exert this minion to place it in a skirmish with the same free peoples character.

^Need help on making this guy stronger for his exerted skirmish.^

--Selrahc

TheJord · « **Reply #20 on:** March 29, 2009, 05:00:03 PM »

The gametext on Hidden Archer is harsh, as it allows you to reassign the Ring-bearer if they have killed a minion. This could be painful on ARB's. Make it a Response action and add in "unbound companion"

Thranduil · « **Reply #21 on:** March 29, 2009, 05:01:02 PM »

Quote from: Selrahc on March 29, 2009, 04:54:39 PM

•Gollum, Lurker in the Mines
Minion
Strength: 5
Vitality: 4
Site #: 3
Lurker.
Shadow: Exert Gollum and spot a orc to add a threat (limit 1). The free peoples player may exert a companion to prevent this.
Regroup: Exert Gollum twice to return him to your hand.

I think the shadow ability would do better as Skirmish: because then he benefits from being a lurker and the FP player has a chance to wound him before he can use his ability. If you do that, I would also take out the limit.

Quote from: Selrahc on March 29, 2009, 04:54:39 PM

Hidden Archer
Minion • Orc
Strength: 4
Vitality: 3
Site #: 4
Lurker. Archer.
To play, spot a archer.
If a orc is killed in a skirmish, you may exert this minion to place it in a skirmish with the same free peoples character.

I'm not sure I understand your intentions. If all minions are killed in a skirmish, the skirmish ends immediately and there's no chance to start shuffling your guys around. I don't think you need to spot a

archery, I think

Orc or

card would be fine.

Thranduil

TheJord · « **Reply #22 on:** March 29, 2009, 05:02:44 PM »

As he is a Lurker his skirmish would be resolved last. My worry is repeating a skirmish on a swarmed RB (ouchie)

Thranduil · « **Reply #23 on:** March 29, 2009, 05:04:03 PM »

Quote from: TheJord on March 29, 2009, 05:02:44 PM

As he is a Lurker his skirmish would be resolved last. My worry is repeating a skirmish on a swarmed RB (ouchie)

My problem is that I don't understand what the ability does...

Selrahc · « **Reply #24 on:** March 29, 2009, 05:07:06 PM »

Hidden Archer

Minion • Orc
Strength: 4
Vitality: 3
Site #: 4
Lurker. Archer.
To play, spot a

orc.
Response: If a

orc is killed in a skirmish by an unbound companion, you may exert this minion to place it in a skirmish with the same free peoples character.

^What I want to happen is that if a

orc is killed in a skirmish, then you could exert this minion to start another skirmish with that same companion.^

--Selrahc

Thranduil · « **Reply #25 on:** March 29, 2009, 05:17:58 PM »

Quote from: Selrahc on March 29, 2009, 05:07:06 PM

Hidden Archer
Minion • Orc
Strength: 4
Vitality: 3
Site #: 4
Lurker. Archer.
To play, spot a orc.
Response: If a orc is killed in a skirmish by an unbound companion, you may exert this minion to place it in a skirmish with the same free peoples character.

^What I want to happen is that if a orc is killed in a skirmish, then you could exert this minion to start another skirmish with that same companion.^

--Selrahc

Okay, now I understand. You want it to say "in a skirmish during an unbound companion" but that's a side issue. Now that I understand what it does, I don't understand why you'd want to do it! If the companion has already killed 1 minion, surely another strength 4 minion is going to pose no threat whatsoever... Unless I've missed something obvious...

Thranduil

TheJord · « **Reply #26 on:** March 29, 2009, 05:27:30 PM »

Perhaps change him around this ability, lose Archer and give him a "Each time this minion is assigned to a companion with resistance 4 or less..." ability, then he has potential.

Otherwise at the moment he is another cheap

archer, although he has 2 vitality, a big bonus for

minions, his beatdown aspect doesnt mix with being so weak.

Selrahc · « **Reply #27 on:** March 29, 2009, 07:37:34 PM »

Okay, I've been thinking about this for a while. I want it to be kind of like a Follower. So, I thought that I'd make a "Follower" for minions: Stooge. Stooges are played into your support area and are transferred back at the start of the regroup phase. Instead of "Aid," I'm using "Assist."

•Hidden Archers

Edit: Follower
Vitality: +1
Assist -

(At the start of the maneuver phase, you may remove 3 twilight to transfer this to a minion.)
To play, spot a

orc.
Bearer must be a

orc.
Skirmish: If bearer is about to lose a skirmish to an unbound companion, you may discard your hand to make bearer strength +2.

--Selrahc

Thranduil · « **Reply #28 on:** March 31, 2009, 12:39:14 PM »

I don't know how much English you know, but stooge has completely the wrong kind of connotations - it's too comic a word for the workers of evil. I think you'd do better to stick to the Saruman, SoS model and make it a follower. Yeah Shadow followers cause some trouble with some other cards, but I say forget about that!

Thranduil

Selrahc · « **Reply #29 on:** March 31, 2009, 01:50:17 PM »

Haha. No, I'm fluent in English (have to be to be an ASL interpreter). Two definitions of stooge (not used that often) is a person of unquestioning obedience and one who allows oneself to be used for an other's profit or advantage; a puppet. I also like the sound of it.

I completely forgot that Follower was used with minions (I edited the card). Thanks!

--Selrahc