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June 15, 2009, 12:21:29 PM
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Pippin WoBaS
« on: June 15, 2009, 12:21:29 PM »
Okay. Say I have Pippin, WoBaS and Sam, GeW out. My opponent plays Band of Uruk Bowmen. Sam beats the Uruk but only does 1 wound.
I send Pippin to hand to finish the Uruk off so I can move again unimpeded. My opponent says I can't do that. Who is right?
« Last Edit: June 15, 2009, 12:27:00 PM by Gate Troll »

June 15, 2009, 12:27:56 PM
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Re: Pippin WoBaS
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2009, 12:27:56 PM »
You are. As long as the Uruk is roaming and Pippin is not assigned to a skirmish you can perform the action.
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June 15, 2009, 12:30:20 PM
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2009, 12:30:20 PM »
Really?  I thought Skirmish actions had to come before the wound placement for winning the skirmish.

June 15, 2009, 12:32:41 PM
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2009, 12:32:41 PM »
Thanks. Thought as much. :up: :gp:

June 15, 2009, 12:38:32 PM
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Re: Pippin WoBaS
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2009, 12:38:32 PM »
Well, yes skirmish actions happen before wounds are placed. So you return Pippin to your hand to wound the guy twice, then he takes 1 wound for losing the fight. However, if the strength required for Sam to win the skirmish requires him spotting Pippin, then he will not win the skirmish because strengths are totalled at the end of the skirmish.

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June 15, 2009, 12:44:01 PM
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Re: Pippin WoBaS
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2009, 12:44:01 PM »
Ok that falls in with what I was thinking.  So to clarify:  Returning Pippin to your hand to wound twice must happen before the wound from Sam winning the skirmish is placed.  So if Sam happens to be a strength 8 WITH Pippin, you cannot have Sam win the skirmish AND return Pippin to wound twice.

June 15, 2009, 12:56:03 PM
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2009, 12:56:03 PM »
But you can resolve a skirmish and than perform a skirmish action. But if indeed Sam's skirmish is the last one, it can't be done I assume.
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June 15, 2009, 01:31:07 PM
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2009, 01:31:07 PM »
There would have to be another minion on the board to continue the phase after Sam won his skirmish.

June 15, 2009, 01:55:11 PM
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Re: Pippin WoBaS
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2009, 01:55:11 PM »
Pippins ability can also be performed after skirmish wounds were placed if there are fierce skirmishes etc. still left.
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June 15, 2009, 02:25:12 PM
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Re: Pippin WoBaS
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2009, 02:25:12 PM »
The situation sounds like WoBaS is using his ability, in the same skirmish phase, after skirmish actions are over. If that's the case, then it can't be done. You'd need another skirmish phase for the opportunity to use it.

June 15, 2009, 04:53:41 PM
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Re: Pippin WoBaS
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2009, 04:53:41 PM »
The situation sounds like WoBaS is using his ability, in the same skirmish phase, after skirmish actions are over. If that's the case, then it can't be done. You'd need another skirmish phase for the opportunity to use it.
This is correct. As long as there is another skirmish to be resolved, you can both get the strength bonus from Pippin and wound the minion twice.

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