Lotr committee: Plan + strategy The Council of the white Tree

[HawkeyeSPF]

Look, I want the game "fixed" and back at conventions as much as anybody, but I just can't make any of these chat sessions. Posting on a forum just seems to work better, even if it takes a little longer because people aren't on at the same time or as much as other people.

What's the goal here anyway? Are we just trying to issue errata for the sake of it? How is our work supposed to transition into a revived player base and tournament scene? Everybody on this board alone seems to disagree as to what is acceptable in a non-NPE environment (I feel that has something to do with how many tournaments - local or championship level - each person was at or involved in), so how in the world are we supposed to create something that the "general public" is happy with?

Personally, I'd like to see some sort of increase in the number of players before I think of this PC as any kind of legitimate body. If there's nobody to bring the game back for but ourselves, and we're spread over the entire globe, what's the point?

Let's concentrate on taking care of obvious errata needs (and other rules clarifications we all agree on) and getting groups of players in each of our areas, all playing the same format. How about sets 4-16 for now? That allows Dunland and Rohan to at least be decent, while avoiding some interactions that Decipher didn't ever worry about because they were only legal in Open, which they never wasted time playtesting for anyway.

Once we can all say we've got a group of at least 4 players, we can start work on playtesting things we're not in agreement on.

[Elessar's Socks]

If chat sessions are proving to be inconvenient or unworkable, then why not start threads in the forum? Seems a shame that the PC would hang in the balance over something like this.

[jdizzy001]

Threads sound good to me, slower, but if that is what works, then go with what you feel.

[Smeagollum]

Fine, but why don't you people say that before? Because I really did spend a lot of time now...

Ok. Will star the threads comming weekend!

[5tein]

Though I'm new to this forum, I've been actively playing LOTR since the beginning. I'd like to revive the player base in my state, but I think you guys need to focus on priorities and in the right order. If I were to lay out some priorities for a house/players committee, they would be:

1. list of regional leaders who will commit to organizing X number of local games and demos at local shops a month/year
2. a method of providing cards to new players
3. a web-based system for tracking player ratings, similar to Decipher's old tourney system

After these three steps were in place I would then support two additional steps:

1. a cautious evaluation of the constructed meta game by a committee which makes recommendations to the player base for x-list/errata that must be voted on.

(I want to emphasize that I do not think the game is "broken" as some have implied, though Decipher was sloppy in some of the later card designs. The last CRD helped a lot more than people give credit for.)

2. a v-card design team which makes card recommendations

A lot of the talk I've read seems to want to work this backwards, starting with errata and v-cards with the hopes that a player base will resume.

[Kenddrick]

Hi there!

I thought I would just offer my two cents worth and ask some questions. Here goes.

I agree with  5tein that we do need more, and I mean MORE players, if this game is going to continue and be around for  some time. Being a new player to LOTR: TCG (started slightly longer than a month ago), I would definitely love to see more players in this game. Be it newcomers or old-timers who have dropped it, I would love to see more players out there in the world.

But I find myself always ending up at this question. How are we going to revive the player base? What are we going to do to ensure that we will have a large player base, albeit not as large as the one we had when the game was at it's prime. If there's an answers, or a step-by-step guide to recruit new players to LOTR: TCG, I would love to do it.

Cheers,
Kenddrick

P.S: Maybe the Hobbit TCG would help to revive the player base. But that's almost 2 years away. And I hope Decipher does make the TCG for The Hobbit.

[jdizzy001]

If they do, I really hope it is compatible with lotr tcg

[Smeagollum]

P.S: Maybe the Hobbit TCG would help to revive the player base. But that's almost 2 years away. And I hope Decipher does make the TCG for The Hobbit.

Hi Kendrick, That's what I'm thinking. But maybe we can play a part in this, but then we need a good plan and present that plan to Decipher, the heirs of Tolkien and to New Line Cinema (or its owners).

[Kenddrick]

P.S: Maybe the Hobbit TCG would help to revive the player base. But that's almost 2 years away. And I hope Decipher does make the TCG for The Hobbit.

Hi Kendrick, That's what I'm thinking. But maybe we can play a part in this, but then we need a good plan and present that plan to Decipher, the heirs of Tolkien and to New Line Cinema (or its owners).

Then let's start to do so! I already have a plan in mind. If more people are up for, I'll show you guys the plan, and ask some questions, get some answers and ideas, and put together a final piece of work. If there's an unanimous/huge majority saying yes to it, then we'll do it!

[jdizzy001]

I hope it sinks to be bluntly honest.

[Kenddrick]

P.S: Maybe the Hobbit TCG would help to revive the player base. But that's almost 2 years away. And I hope Decipher does make the TCG for The Hobbit.

Decipher holds the rights to the Hobbit as a playing card game; however, all signs point to them trying to build up Fight Klub. I think Fight Klub looks lame.
-wtk

Ok I'm wandering off topic. To me Fight Club seems a little..kiddy. Plus the fact that Decipher sells it only on its website causes it to suck. It kinds of limits the player base.
Hopefully, Big D will try and do both at the same time. If I'm not wrong, after getting LOTR released, they also released the .hack//ENEMY TCG, and WARS TCG as well. So hopefully The Hobbit TCG will we done by them.

[Smeagollum]

Then let's start to do so! I already have a plan in mind. If more people are up for, I'll show you guys the plan, and ask some questions, get some answers and ideas, and put together a final piece of work. If there's an unanimous/huge majority saying yes to it, then we'll do it!

This is not the most urgent issue. It's something for later concern. Founding a lotr pc and have a reviewed crd and errata-list has the highest priority. Unifiyng all playergroups is top priority. Organizing new tournament and tournamentsystem has priority.  Creating cards with old images have a lesser priority.
Making total new cards is something for the long term. Though something I feel inspired to.

[MR. Lurtzy]

I really don't see many new players joining (at the very least in my area) until OP and broken cards are fixed.

[jdizzy001]

I increased the players base by 1, but then a different player moved away... sigh.  We're still sitting at 4 players here

[Kenddrick]

This is not the most urgent issue. It's something for later concern. Founding a lotr pc and have a reviewed crd and errata-list has the highest priority. Unifiyng all playergroups is top priority. Organizing new tournament and tournamentsystem has priority.  Creating cards with old images have a lesser priority.
Making total new cards is something for the long term. Though something I feel inspired to.

I don't see how a reviewed CRD and errata-list should have the highest priority. I feel that getting new players in and reviving the LOTR: TCG playerbase should be more important. When I first played LOTR: TCG a month ago, the CRD and such didn't matter much to me. Getting to play this game and having fun with the cards was what counted.