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September 16, 2009, 08:42:48 AM
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Iffy at best, but here they are
« on: September 16, 2009, 08:42:48 AM »
(0) •Frodo, Corrupted [Shire]
Minion • Hobbit
Strength: 5
Vitality: 4
Site Number: 9
Enduring. Lurker.
This minion's roaming penalty is +3.
You may play this minion even if the free peoples player has a card in play with the same title.
Gollum is strength +3, Dmg+1, Feirce, and Enduring
"The ring is mine!"


Its the ultimate site 9 gollum pump!


[2] •Ulaire Frodo [Wraith]
Minion • Wraith
Strength: 5
Vitality: 4
Site Number: 3
Twilight
Skirmish: Spot the ring bearer wearing the one ring and exert this minion to add a burden
"A few more hours..."

The title is a bit of a joke, but otherwise I think it could be fun.



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« Last Edit: September 16, 2009, 08:46:46 AM by Sweet_Stuff »
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September 16, 2009, 01:00:25 PM
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Re: Iffy at best, but here they are
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2009, 01:00:25 PM »
(0) •Frodo, Corrupted [Shire]
Minion • Hobbit
Strength: 5
Vitality: 4
Site Number: 9
Enduring. Lurker.
This minion's roaming penalty is +3.
You may play this minion even if the free peoples player has a card in play with the same title.
Gollum is strength +3, Dmg+1, Feirce, and Enduring
"The ring is mine!"

It may be easier to come up with a different title than Frodo so that you don't have to have the line about card titles. How about:
• Corrupted By the Ring, Frodo Baggins
I don't know that I would make his roaming penalty +3. I would just have him cost 2 instead (like Gollum, or Frodo, Frenzied Fighter). I don't see why he makes Gollum stronger. If anything, he should make Smeagol and Frodo weaker. My card might be:

[2] •Corrupted By the Ring, Frodo Baggins [Sauron]
Minion • Hobbit
Strength 5, Vitality 4, Site 9
Enduring. Lurker.
When you play this minion, spot Frodo to add a burden.
Assignment: Exert this minion twice to assign this minion to Smeagol or Frodo. The free people's player may add two burdens to prevent this.

[2] •Ulaire Frodo [Wraith]
Minion • Wraith
Strength: 5
Vitality: 4
Site Number: 3
Twilight
Skirmish: Spot the ring bearer wearing the one ring and exert this minion to add a burden
"A few more hours..."

This one I like better. I'd name him: Corrupted By the Ring, Frodo of the Shire and make him a  [Sauron] minion.

A series of these would be cool...with Galadriel, Boromir, Faramir, Isildur, and others.
-wtk

September 16, 2009, 03:11:01 PM
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Re: Iffy at best, but here they are
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2009, 03:11:01 PM »
New version:

(0) •Corrupted By the Ring, Frodo Baggins [Shire]
Minion • Hobbit
Strength: 5
Vitality: 4
Site Number: 9
Enduring. Lurker.
This minion's roaming penalty is +3.
When you play this minion, spot Frodo to add a burden.
Gollum is strength +3, Damage+1, Feirce, and Enduring
"The ring is mine!"

The idea on this one was to make him sorta like frodo at the end of the movie, right when he accepts the ring as his own. That is also the reason for the site number and lore. Gollum comes and kicks his butt! I like the title ideas. I'm thinking though that he needs a more powerful and possibly more general idea for the cost at most sites (5) or make him cheaper.

This one is frodo who never makes it to rivindel and turns into a wraith. Once again, the reason for the lore and site number. Goes well with twilight nazzies :) I'll leave him:

[2] •Corrupted By the Ring, Frodo Stabbed [Wraith]
Minion • Wraith
Strength: 5
Vitality: 4
Site Number: 3
Twilight
Skirmish: Spot the ring bearer wearing the one ring and exert this minion to add a burden
"A few more hours..."
« Last Edit: September 16, 2009, 03:47:25 PM by Sweet_Stuff »
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September 16, 2009, 03:31:06 PM
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Re: Iffy at best, but here they are
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2009, 03:31:06 PM »
Ulaire Frodo isn't a very good name though because 'Ulaire' translates to 'Number.' So...'Number Frodo.'

Anyways, I understand that you like him as a [Wraith], but he'd fit better as [Sauron] because Sauron is the corruptor, not the Nazgul. He'd be similar to any of the Wraiths from Ents of Fangorn (Dead Ones, etc). I understood that he was meant to be the Weathertop stabbed Frodo.

I think that Frodo shouldn't make Gollum stronger, but make Smeagol weaker. At Zero Twilight, the first one is much over-powered. He'd be a staple in any Ninja Gollum deck.
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September 16, 2009, 03:45:36 PM
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Re: Iffy at best, but here they are
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2009, 03:45:36 PM »
 [Wraith] is the wraith culture, which is what he is. It says in the book (and movie I believe) that frodo would have become like the nazgual had the blade tip reached his heart. Name changed.

the other one is only 0 twilight at site 9, every other site he is 5.

Both of these are mostly intended for flavor, not play. Just some fun :)
« Last Edit: September 16, 2009, 03:49:46 PM by Sweet_Stuff »
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September 16, 2009, 04:25:55 PM
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Re: Iffy at best, but here they are
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2009, 04:25:55 PM »
Second one's ability is too strong. I'd give him only 3 vitality.

September 17, 2009, 04:43:51 AM
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Re: Iffy at best, but here they are
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2009, 04:43:51 AM »
(0) •Corrupted By the Ring, Frodo Baggins [Shire]
Minion • Hobbit
Strength: 5
Vitality: 4
Site Number: 9
Enduring. Lurker.
This minion's roaming penalty is +3.
When you play this minion, spot Frodo to add a burden.
Gollum is strength +3, Damage+1, Feirce, and Enduring
"The ring is mine!"
I would do something slightly different with the roaming penalty thing - I want to somehow represent that the corrupted version of Frodo gets stronger the closer the fellowship gets to Mordor, so:

"In region 1, this minion's twilight cost is +4.
In region 2, this minion's twilight cost is +2."

So you're paying [6] in region 1, and [4] in region 2, [2] in region 3 except site 9 when he's free.

I also have a flavour issue - Frodo fights Gollum at Mount Doom, he doesn't help him. So I think I would find some other game text, possibly interaction with The One Ring and the Ring-bearer wearing it.

[2] •Corrupted By the Ring, Frodo Stabbed [Wraith]
Minion • Wraith
Strength: 5
Vitality: 4
Site Number: 3
Twilight
Skirmish: Spot the ring bearer wearing the one ring and exert this minion to add a burden
"A few more hours..."
Seems perhaps too strong. But giving him vitality 3 really ruins the flavour of Frodo. Perhaps reduce his strength to 3, and have his ability "If this minion is skirmishing and the Ring-bearer is wearing The One Ring, exert this minion to add a burden." That way there are many things that the FP player can do to stop this going off, and the minion itself will almost always lose the fight.

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September 26, 2009, 09:17:14 AM
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Re: Iffy at best, but here they are
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2009, 09:17:14 AM »
Quote from: Sweet_Stuff
(0) •Corrupted By the Ring, Frodo Baggins [Shire]
Minion • Hobbit
Strength: 5
Vitality: 4
Site Number: 9
Enduring. Lurker.
This minion's roaming penalty is +3.
When you play this minion, spot Frodo to add a burden.
Gollum is strength +3, Damage+1, Feirce, and Enduring
"The ring is mine!"

No need to capitalize damage +1, fierce (and watch your spelling there), or enduring.

Other than that, I agree with Thran. :up:

I think I'd come up with a different title, though. I understand why you picked it, but it just seems like Frodo should be in the title somewhere. Something I did for minion versions of characters like Theoden and Denethor was just tweak their names; "Theoden King" and "Lord Denethor", for example. So something simple like "Frodo Corrupted" as the title would work out great. And then you leave yourself an easy fix for any other corrupted characters you want to make. :up:

Quote from: Sweet_Stuff
[2] •Corrupted By the Ring, Frodo Stabbed [Wraith]
Minion • Wraith
Strength: 5
Vitality: 4
Site Number: 3
Twilight
Skirmish: Spot the ring bearer wearing the one ring and exert this minion to add a burden
"A few more hours..."

Yeah, definately need a name tweak here. "Frodo Stabbed" is just...meh. You could do "Frodo Corrupted" again with a different subtitle.

Anyway, I have yet another suggestion to make this work. How about exert him twice for his ability, but have a built-in healing ability for him as well. Something like healing him each time a Nazgul wins a fierce skirmish, or each time the Ring-bearer takes a wound, or something like that. Then you still have to work at it a bit, but his ability is still plenty powerful. Just a thought.
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