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September 24, 2009, 04:47:14 AM
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Olorin

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Grieving the fallen
« on: September 24, 2009, 04:47:14 AM »
Hi there...

concerning: Grieving the fallen: I guess this card may not be played on the ringbearer, right?

Question: text vs. graphic of that card - what' s right? *confused*  ???

--> also consider that possible error in gccg, etc.
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September 24, 2009, 04:54:06 AM
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Pepin The Breve

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Re: Grieving the fallen
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2009, 04:54:06 AM »
it can...

hmmm... this give me some ideas...
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September 24, 2009, 04:56:57 AM
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Re: Grieving the fallen
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2009, 04:56:57 AM »
That is the classical corruption archery. Wielding the ring and grieving the fallen - nothing new.
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September 24, 2009, 05:10:16 AM
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Re: Grieving the fallen
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2009, 05:10:16 AM »
Quote from: Elrohir on September 24, 2009, 04:56:57 AM
That is the classical corruption archery. Wielding the ring and grieving the fallen - nothing new.

Wielding the ring may not be played onto the ringbearer!

and concerning Grieving the fallen: I am still not convinced coz 2 other sources tell me that this is not possible... we shall get this prooved by some other meanings.
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September 24, 2009, 08:12:51 AM
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Re: Grieving the fallen
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2009, 08:12:51 AM »


Let's examine the relevant text, shall we?

Bearer must be a companion.

Is the Ring-bearer a companion?  YES


Please, explain why do you expect that this card cannot be played on the RB.
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September 24, 2009, 08:20:46 AM
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Re: Grieving the fallen
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2009, 08:20:46 AM »
Quote from: Olorin on September 24, 2009, 04:47:14 AM
Question: text vs. graphic of that card - what' s right? *confused*  ???

Hold on there, Steve! I think the problem is that it is wrong in the database AND in GCCG (just as Grimbeorn was previously). Unless anyone knows of erratum for this card, the text is wrong. I'll fix it on my end - pm wlk to fix it in GCCG.

EDIT: On further inspection, it appears that Zorbec's Decklist Builder also has the incorrect text. I have no good explanation, unless someone decided it to be "house rules." I'll fix it when I have a chance (and motivation ;))
« Last Edit: September 24, 2009, 08:24:41 AM by Kralik »
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September 24, 2009, 10:48:29 AM
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Re: Grieving the fallen
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2009, 10:48:29 AM »
In Zorbec's Decklist Builder, I have :

==========  Men  ==========

Grieving the Fallen
Condition
Game Text: To play, spot a [men] Man. Bearer must be a companion (except the Ring-bearer). Bearer cannot take wounds during the archery phase. At the start of the regroup phase, discard this condition.
Twilight Cost: 1
Resistance bonus: –1
Collector's Info: 15U81


If you want more informations, you can ask Zorbec (=Frealaf on the French forum) for this problem ;).
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October 21, 2009, 10:03:26 AM
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Re: Grieving the fallen
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2009, 10:03:26 AM »
I just checked the physical card, and it says clearly except the ringbearer. Weird, but there you have it (allthough Enola also nailed it)
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October 21, 2009, 12:14:03 PM
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Re: Grieving the fallen
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2009, 12:14:03 PM »
Quote from: Gil-Estel on October 21, 2009, 10:03:26 AM
I just checked the physical card, and it says clearly except the ringbearer. Weird, but there you have it (allthough Enola also nailed it)

Apparently the image is wrong?
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October 21, 2009, 12:37:10 PM
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Re: Grieving the fallen
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2009, 12:37:10 PM »
image is exactly the same, but the gametext is different.
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October 21, 2009, 02:19:14 PM
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Re: Grieving the fallen
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2009, 02:19:14 PM »
What I meant is, apparently the whole card image is wrong? :P
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October 21, 2009, 03:24:15 PM
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Re: Grieving the fallen
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2009, 03:24:15 PM »
This would be broken if it wasnt.
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October 21, 2009, 04:20:25 PM
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Re: Grieving the fallen
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2009, 04:20:25 PM »
Quote from: Kralik on October 21, 2009, 12:14:03 PM
Quote from: Gil-Estel on October 21, 2009, 10:03:26 AM
I just checked the physical card, and it says clearly except the ringbearer. Weird, but there you have it (allthough Enola also nailed it)

Apparently the image is wrong?
I checked it as well, the real card says "Bearer must be a companion (except the ring-bearer)."
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October 21, 2009, 06:01:21 PM
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Re: Grieving the fallen
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2009, 06:01:21 PM »
Well, we know that Decipher didn't care much about their website in the end, they never posted proper images of some cards and some other were posted with differences from real cards - guess that is the case here.
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October 21, 2009, 06:28:17 PM
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Re: Grieving the fallen
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2009, 06:28:17 PM »
Decipher basically half-assed the last few sets. Shouldn't expect anything different.
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