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November 10, 2009, 06:00:53 PM
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Terrorist executed
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As I post, John Allen Muhammad, the man responsible for the DC sniper attacks in 2002 that left 10 dead, is being executed by lethal injection. Wish we'd have more real justice like that here.  :up:

November 10, 2009, 06:19:51 PM
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Re: Terrorist executed
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2009, 06:19:51 PM »
Many that live deserve death, and some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Gate Troll? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.

November 10, 2009, 06:21:46 PM
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Re: Terrorist executed
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2009, 06:21:46 PM »
Many that live deserve death, and some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Gate Troll? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.


I didn't want to get involved, but :gp:

That is all.
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November 10, 2009, 06:28:00 PM
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Re: Terrorist executed
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2009, 06:28:00 PM »
Wonderful quote, but a bit out of place. I said nothing about my dispensing justice, rather that I'm glad that justice has been done by those with authority to enforce it. I'm not Timothy Kaine you know. ;)

November 10, 2009, 08:12:54 PM
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Re: Terrorist executed
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2009, 08:12:54 PM »
Was he the driver, or the shooter?

November 10, 2009, 08:25:29 PM
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2009, 08:25:29 PM »
Driver. The shooter was a minor.
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November 10, 2009, 08:41:08 PM
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Re: Terrorist executed
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2009, 08:41:08 PM »
Ah yes... I remember, the other guy got life in prison.

November 11, 2009, 08:12:21 AM
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Re: Terrorist executed
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2009, 08:12:21 AM »
Many that live deserve death, and some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Gate Troll? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.
Witty quote, but with little to do with the topic at hand.

Government is responsible for dealing justice to those who have committed crimes so depraved that they have forfeited their right to life.
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November 11, 2009, 10:58:17 AM
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Re: Terrorist executed
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2009, 10:58:17 AM »
Unbelievable lack of Grace there. You say his particular sins deserve death I say the wages of all sin is death. Capital punishment is not right and I'm very glad that I live in a country that stands against it.

November 11, 2009, 05:06:13 PM
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Re: Terrorist executed
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2009, 05:06:13 PM »
As a Christian, I wonder how you reconcile this with capital punishment law taught throughout the Torah?
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November 11, 2009, 06:27:38 PM
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2009, 06:27:38 PM »
I dont think thats very valid, as we arent required, as Christians, to sacrifice unblemished lambs either.
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November 11, 2009, 06:58:03 PM
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2009, 06:58:03 PM »
I dont think thats very valid, as we arent required, as Christians, to sacrifice unblemished lambs either.


That's because Christ specifically abolished animal sacrifice. He never abolished capital punishment.

Unbelievable lack of Grace there. You say his particular sins deserve death I say the wages of all sin is death. Capital punishment is not right and I'm very glad that I live in a country that stands against it.

Just because the wages of sin is death does not mean he should escape punishment in this world. If more people were actually executed for murder less murders might occur. The murderer might be a person too, but, as NBarden says, he has forfeited his life by taking another's.

November 11, 2009, 07:13:44 PM
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Re: Terrorist executed
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2009, 07:13:44 PM »
Let him who is without sin cast the first stone

I honestly don't know my opinion on the death penalty.  On the one hand, it gets the burden of taking care of them off the government and I think is a deterrent, and the other hand there is always the risk of killing someone who is innocent, and the whole can a just society condemn someone to death?


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November 12, 2009, 05:05:00 AM
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Re: Terrorist executed
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2009, 05:05:00 AM »
As a Christian, I wonder how you reconcile this with capital punishment law taught throughout the Torah?
And I would counter with another question. Do you then think we should stone women who have adultery? And where Gate Troll does it say which laws Jesus came to abolish and which he didn't. All I see is what Paul says about how we are no longer under the law at all but under grace.

November 12, 2009, 06:17:00 AM
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Re: Terrorist executed
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2009, 06:17:00 AM »
God gave life and only god can take it away. In murdering a murderer you are playing at being god and had no more right to do so than them in the first place. Even if he does deserve death no human is qualified to make that decision. We are on gods earth at gods grace and mercy. He said thou shall not kill. Full stop. He didnt add "unless they already killed someone else then that makes it ok".

Im slightly hypocritical in my arguement though as I am glad to see some people still put to death in USA because of their crime. But from a moral/ethical and christian perspective it is wrong no matter how you dress justice up.

Sometimes I think "good they got what they deserve" but despite this, I am glad its not practiced in England because its just too messier an issue. And as someone said the possibility they might be innocent is too horrible to conceive. Imagine being on deathrow for something everyone falses believes you did. Yikes.
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