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Hand clog Deck *updated
« on: November 25, 2009, 07:52:33 AM »
Frodo And Ring 
*The One Ring, The Binding Ring (9R+1
*Frodo, Resolute Hobbit (10P121

 
Sites 
(1R)Sleeping Quarters (7U333
(2R)King's Tent (7U335
(3R)Hall of the Kings (7U339
(4R)Osgiliath Fallen (7U342
(5R)Crashed Gate (8U119
(6R)Minas Tirith Seventh Circle (7U350
(7R)Ruined Capitol (7U355
(8R)Morgul Vale (7U357
(9R)Haunted Pass (7U361

 
Fellowship (32) 
3x *Elrond, Herald To Gil-Galad (3R13
1x *Vilya (3R27
2x *Aragorn, Ranger Of The North (1R89
1x *Legolas, Dauntless Hunter (4R73)  (start)
1x *Merry, From O'er the Brandywine (1C303)  (start)
1x *Pippin, Hobbit of Some Intelligence (1R307)  (start)
2x *Taurnil, Sharp-eyed Bowman (5U13
1x *A Light in his Mind (10U108
2x *A Talent for Not Being Seen (1U316
2x *Glimpse of Fate (10U12
2x *The Tale of the Great Ring (10U116
1x *There and Back Again (1C317
3x Hobbit Intuition (1C296
3x Make Haste (10C109
1x Stand Against Darkness (1U63
2x Elven Sword (4C64
2x Hobbit Sword (1C299
2x Naith Longbow (6C21

 
Shadow (32) 
2x You Bring Great Evil (1C283
4x Ruinous Hail (10U98
3x Speak No More to Me (10R100
4x Orc Slaughterer (10R95
3x *Advance Captain (10R75
2x *Grima, Wormtongue (4R154
2x *Orc Archer Troop (7U294
2x *Shagrat, Captain of Cirith Ungol (10R99
1x *Tower Assassin (2R93
1x *Ulaire Enquea, Lieutenant of Morgul (1U231
1x Advance Scout (10U78
2x Gorgoroth Assassin (8R95
1x Gorgoroth Berserker (8R96
1x Mordor Warrior (7U293
1x Siege Troop (8C106
2x Troll of Cirith Gorgor (10R101


The main purpose of the whole deck is to jam your opponent's hand,

Legolas, DH and Vilya (get it using the Binding Ring) are jamming your hand with shadow conditions. Taurnil can be interesting against possession-based shadows. Use Make Haste to return Pippin to your hand and remove burden or wound next turn. The FP is kinda weak vs strong minions.

Ruinous Hail is really annoying when your opponent starts his fellowship phase at site 1 by playing a possession. It forces your opponent to play only 1 possession per turn. Grima, WT (with the help of you bring great evil) is there to return the possessions... dwarves are in trouble. Speak no More to me is also an event that clog your opponent's hand with FP conditions. The minions are there to try to slow my opponent down.
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November 25, 2009, 09:55:18 AM
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Re: Hand clog Deck
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2009, 09:55:18 AM »
hmm for the freeps maybe add Denethor, Lord Of Minas Tirith to make them draw or let you cycle much
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November 25, 2009, 10:26:44 AM
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Re: Hand clog Deck
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2009, 10:26:44 AM »
That is not a good idea, for it needs a lot, 2 men for example and thus another type of deck. What annoying decks you tend to build mr Clocky ;)
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November 25, 2009, 11:28:29 AM
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Re: Hand clog Deck
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2009, 11:28:29 AM »
You can also clog his hand with shadow that returns companions..
There is called away, or minions like u.lemenya from set 6 (which is not so good).  Called away can work well with Morgai, since you're using Besiegers
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November 25, 2009, 11:53:29 AM
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Re: Hand clog Deck
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2009, 11:53:29 AM »
hmm for the freeps maybe add Denethor, Lord Of Minas Tirith to make them draw or let you cycle much

Letting them draw several extra cards can give them the opportunity to unclog a bit at reconcile.

November 25, 2009, 02:47:13 PM
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Re: Hand clog Deck
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2009, 02:47:13 PM »
You can also clog his hand with shadow that returns companions..
There is called away, or minions like u.lemenya from set 6 (which is not so good).  Called away can work well with Morgai, since you're using Besiegers
Very good point. I knew about Called Away before and I may very well try to fit 2 of these in... That would require me to add cards that add burdens and cards to add wounds (to remove vitality).

The problem is that if I want to keep a good number of Sauron Minions, it's hard to have a decent set-up that clogs your opponent's hand, adds burdens and wound at the same time with at least 20 minions.

Also, Called Away may actually help the free people player as I'm probably going to return exhausted companions in his hand, giving him the opportunity to play them back fully healed.

I'll try to do something with Called Away anyway... playtest it... and I'll see.

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November 26, 2009, 12:54:12 AM
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Re: Hand clog Deck
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2009, 12:54:12 AM »
Called Away is great, but I think it is good in a deck of it's own. I made a deck once that was annoying as annoying can be. Return a key companion to his owners hand, and discard that players hand with White Arrows of Lorien, so the companions are gone. Which is terrible to witness.
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November 26, 2009, 05:20:22 AM
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Re: Hand clog Deck
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2009, 05:20:22 AM »
WHite arrows... the only solution is play nothing and RUN!

November 26, 2009, 07:35:55 PM
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2009, 07:35:55 PM »
Ok, the biggest issue I have right now with my fellowship is my companions being too weak and ending up being overwhelmed easily, any suggestions on how I could improve that? Adding a big companion seems to be the best solution, however it would force me to remove some cards.

November 27, 2009, 01:28:08 AM
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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2009, 01:28:08 AM »
Gil-galad...
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November 27, 2009, 02:28:12 AM
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Re: Hand clog Deck
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2009, 02:28:12 AM »
you could add the defender+ companions, Sam and Aragorn, that if you need them, you could use them.
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November 27, 2009, 08:57:33 AM
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Re: Hand clog Deck
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2009, 08:57:33 AM »
c-work: Play the discarding Hobbits and add four copies of Knocked In the Head instead of extra Hobbit Swords. It is gold! Sauron? No problem!

Also, Isildur, Bearer of Heirlooms for the ring-bearer. You can always exert him and the two Hobbits, then discard the Hobbits in a crunch.
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The reason why I use this Frodo is because I want to have decent corruption protection. If I use Isildur and I want to grab Vilya, corruption may become a problem quickly.

Gil-Galad could be a good idea. RotN as well.

December 02, 2009, 05:09:51 PM
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2009, 05:09:51 PM »
Along with Gil-Galad, you could also consider using Naith Warband.

December 03, 2009, 05:57:51 AM
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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2009, 05:57:51 AM »
How about tossing in one Galdor, Councilor From the West ?
For this to work (more than once), you would have to add to your deck Galadriel, Lady of the Golden Wood. She could heal Gil-galad or Legolas too.
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December 03, 2009, 02:09:23 PM
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2009, 02:09:23 PM »
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