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January 14, 2010, 07:36:04 PM
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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2010, 07:36:04 PM »
Goes to show how underpowered Towers block (or [Rohan]) is
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January 14, 2010, 07:58:28 PM
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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2010, 07:58:28 PM »
Realm of the Elf Lords is unavailable but sets 1 and 2 can still be found in one form or another. There does not appear to be an easy entry point for new players other than starter decks and this does not teach them much about deck design. RotEL is valuable not because it is the best set, but because it is the missing link in a simple format (FoTR block) that new players could start playing the game.

New players cannot access all cards (except on GCCG) and this creates an unfair playing situation. This leads to negative playing experiences if experienced players bring out cards they can't access and beat down on them.

So in short - some form of access to RotEL would assist greatly in creating a format for newbies to play the game.

January 14, 2010, 09:09:27 PM
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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2010, 09:09:27 PM »
Seems like Wild Things Games sells a complete ROTEL set every week.  Here is the link to this week's.

http://cgi.ebay.com/LOTR-CCG-The-Realms-of-the-Elf-Lords-Set-No-Ps_W0QQitemZ390141732488QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5ad6426688#ht_2759wt_941

Doesn't seem that hard to find...

January 14, 2010, 09:17:27 PM
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« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2010, 09:17:27 PM »
That's good news ghhhk - i should of checked - the last time i looked i couldn't find one for sale and i used to buy from wild-thing games all the time.

Players only need to about $150-200 over a month to get a complete playset - thats reasonable i guess.

January 14, 2010, 09:35:23 PM
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« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2010, 09:35:23 PM »
WTG is absolutely great. That is where I got most of my sets from, too. However, they do not list the sets every week. They take a break sometimes from listing particular sets as auctions.

They have been selling sets for years now. Their supply has to dry up at some point...
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January 14, 2010, 10:07:15 PM
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January 15, 2010, 01:32:03 AM
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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2010, 01:32:03 AM »
Just thinking about it - whether RotEL is available this week or not is not necessarily a valid counter argument. It remains an out-of-print set that is hard to obtain, and it is part of a simple introductory format for new players. Additionally, postage to Australia is almost more than the set itself.

It is important to remember that LOTR is a global game. Access to cards that are out of print is hard. Some players are not willing to use international Ebay, and will be less likely to buy when they see the high postage costs. (Two years ago i bought boxes of LOTR from wild thing games for $12 USD international postage - now it is more than that for a set - unless US postal system has had a steep increase in price then something is not right here).

All that said - with RotEL out of print along with other sets - it is a big challenge to create a level playing field for new players - and this is a barrier for a revival of the game. Printing proxies from this set to play Fellowship of the Ring block would go along way to opening up the game to new players without the exclusive use of GCCG.

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January 15, 2010, 05:12:41 AM
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« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2010, 05:12:41 AM »
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January 15, 2010, 12:28:07 PM
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« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2010, 12:28:07 PM »
Movie Block X-list
1R40 Elrond, Lord of Rivendell
1R45 Galadriel, Lady of Light
1R80 Ottar, Man of Laketown
1U108 No Stranger to the Shadows
1R139 Savagery to Match Their Numbers
1R195 Relics of Moria
1U234 Ulaire Nertea, Messenger of Dol Guldur
1C248 Forces of Mordor
1R313 Sting
2R32 Flaming Brand
3R38 Aragorn, Heir to the White City
3R42 Horn of Boromir
3R67 The Palantir of Orthanc
3R68 Saruman, Keeper of Isengard
3U106 Bill the Pony
3C108 Frying Pan

7U49 Steadfast Champion
7C96 Gondorian Captain
8C1 Aggression
10U2 Memories of Darkness
10C91 Mordor Fiend

ROTEL is just a small set and it represents more than 1/4 of the movie block x-list.



Which also means that the other set's were more balanced.

which means that if you read between the lines, RotEL was like a glimpse of TH, RoS and T&D, overpowered, under printed so that any cards from that set are valuable and many cards that needed errata and/or X-ing

I agree lego, but you must also see the following point:
FotR was the first expansion and pretty unbalanced, but this actually is normal in TCGs like Raigeki in Yu-Gi-Oh and Black Lotus in Mtg. MoM was the 2nd set and underpowered and as said before, they still didn't have the right balance with RotEL. So, the over-and underpowering of cards in the first sets is usual, but the underprinting...I don't know...

January 15, 2010, 12:44:16 PM
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« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2010, 12:44:16 PM »
I agree lego, but you must also see the following point:
FotR was the first expansion and pretty unbalanced, but this actually is normal in TCGs like Raigeki in Yu-Gi-Oh and Black Lotus in Mtg. MoM was the 2nd set and underpowered and as said before, they still didn't have the right balance with RotEL. So, the over-and underpowering of cards in the first sets is usual, but the underprinting...I don't know...

You really think FOTS was unballanced?