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February 08, 2010, 09:47:02 AM
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Almost flawless LttG
« on: February 08, 2010, 09:47:02 AM »
Ok, I understand problem some could have with the title, cause it brings a lot of expectation with it. It has however a 15-1 winningrate give or take, and the only time I lost was due to insane bad draws, which is nearly impossible in a small deck like mine.

I was a bit reluctant to get this deck here. Many of you play GCCG and when you will see my starting line-up, you know what to expect...however, I am thinking of a deck quite simular to this one, with an other shadow, that takes advantage of wounds on the RB, so please, keep him/her exhausted  :twisted:...

The deck:

I start Isildur, Glorfindel and Gandalf. Burn both Glorfindel and Gandalf asap to get: Galadriel, Elrond and into the West, MoW, Send Back and Gandalf's Staff. The whole idea is to use Into the West to the max! Put cards on top of the deck, shadowcards, and put them back underneath the deck with into the west. With her ring and gandalf, you could put 5 cards back in the deck. The goal is to filter all freeps cards out of the deck, building your hand to a few lttg and some orcs, and gollum. And there you have it: the lttg bomb!

   Frodo And Ring
*The One Ring, The Binding Ring (9R+1)
*Isildur, Bearer of Heirlooms (RB)(9R+33)

Sites
(1R)Rohirrim Road (7U332)
(2R)King's Tent (7U335)
(3R)Hall of the Kings (7U339)
(4R)Pelennor Plain (7U343)
(5R)Pelennor Flat (7U345)
(6R)Minas Tirith First Circle (7U347)
(7R)Ruined Capitol (7U355)
(8R)Northern Ithilien (7U359)
(9R)Narchost (7U362)

Fellowship (30)
1x *Albert Dreary, Entertainer From Bree (1R69)
2x *Barliman Butterbur, Prancing Pony Proprietor (1U70)
1x *Celeborn, Lord of Lorien (1R34)
1x *Elrond, Herald To Gil-Galad (3R13)
1x *Galadriel, Keeper of Nenya (6R18)
1x *Gandalf's Staff (2R22)
1x *Narya (3R34)
2x *Nenya, Ring of Adamant (9R20)
1x *Ent Horde (6R28)
1x *Gandalf, Leader of Men (8R15)
1x *Gandalf, Manager of Wizards (7R37)
1x *Glorfindel, Revealed in Wrath (9R+16)
1x *Lindenroot, Elder Shepherd (5R19)
1x *Quickbeam, Bregalad (6C33)
1x *Skinbark, Fladrif (6R35)
1x *Treebeard, Keeper of the Watchwood (10R18)
2x Into the West (7C23)
1x Sent Back (9R27)
3x A Wizard Is Never Late (1R87)
1x Deep In Thought (3C30)
1x Roll of Thunder (4U99)
4x Saved From The Fire (8R20)

Shadow (30)
1x The Underdeeps of Moria (1R200)
3x Captured by the Ring (7C53)
4x It Wants to be Found (2U78)
4x Lost to the Goblins (1R189)
1x *Gollum, Dark as Darkness (9R+28)
2x *Ulaire Enquea, Lieutenant of Morgul (1U231)
1x *Ulaire Enquea, Ringwraith in Twilight (2U83)
3x *Ulaire Nelya, Ringwraith in Twilight (2R84)
4x *Ulaire Otsea, Ringwraith In Twilight (3U86)
3x Goblin Runner (1U178)
4x Goblin Sneak (1U181)


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February 08, 2010, 09:55:16 AM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2010, 09:55:16 AM »
This deck is insane. I have seen it in action. Thankfully, not against me!
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February 08, 2010, 09:57:26 AM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2010, 09:57:26 AM »
Yep, nasty deck.  I saw what was coming from the shadow so decided to go slow and try to win with my sahdow before he got the the bottom of the deck.  Problem was the freeps side was too big with all those ents so I failed to get to his ringbearer.

Should have run with my exhausted ringbearer, but was afraid there would be some hidden trap I wasn't ready for (maybe twilight witchie, wraith world or something like that).  Maybe I should have just stockpiled 4 Nobody Tosses a Dwarf until his deck was down to 10-15 cards.

February 08, 2010, 02:55:56 PM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2010, 02:55:56 PM »
It's a good deck! I like that it filters out Freeps cards and can hit before the deck is completely out. Your opponent won't know when they will lose. GE, what's the earliest you've had it work? Site 4 or 5, perhaps?

February 08, 2010, 07:22:34 PM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2010, 07:22:34 PM »
What if Into the West gets discarded? What if you play vs Res12 Frodo? Is it the 1 loss out of 15? Maybe you can just run I guess.

February 08, 2010, 08:03:19 PM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2010, 08:03:19 PM »
4x LttG should add 12 burdens if done right... It Wants to Be Found and Northern Ithilien help as well.

February 08, 2010, 08:16:49 PM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2010, 08:16:49 PM »
I tossed Into the West (the turn he played it I think) and still lost.  Didn't get corrupted, he just sprinted to the end.  With a load of ents showing up real fast, I couldn't stop him.  Real close though.  Had 11 or 12 minions at 9, but he had a def +1 ent and I was 1s short of overwealming the ringbearer.  Stupid Sent Back throwing away my Guard Commander when I had like 12 pool to use.   ](*,)
« Last Edit: February 08, 2010, 08:18:32 PM by Gwaihir »

February 08, 2010, 08:37:23 PM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2010, 08:37:23 PM »
4x LttG should add 12 burdens if done right... It Wants to Be Found and Northern Ithilien help as well.
You are right. It sounds pretty deadly. What are you going to do vs Corruption with 6 Res Isildur?

February 08, 2010, 11:10:19 PM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2010, 11:10:19 PM »
And that is why I call it almost flawless, haha. I played vs corruption though and was able to pull it of before the opponent did. Narya peels of 1 each turn. If I get SftF turn 1 and 1 or 2 support cards in hand, I am likely to get all my freeps out at site 4/5. I corrupted either sweet or legolas at site 5, when he played 12 resistance frodo.
Into the West is pretty sweet, but when it get's discarded, I use every SftF I get. Use my own crowdcontrol to get back to 5 companions and all freeps out of the deck.
So it can be very, very swift. At 30-30 it is slim and so the odds are in my favor. Depending on my opponent I just take 1 turn at the time, and the trick with Send Back was sweet. Gwaihir had a quite a few minions, and I had 3 orcs on Isildur, together strength 15. He had the Guard Commander out and 12 pool to use indeed. Send Back did send him back, haha.
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February 09, 2010, 03:14:46 AM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2010, 03:14:46 AM »
I think it's a good deck, but what if an opponent decides to get his ringbearer exhausted for example taking threat wounds or exerting himself while you have no moria minions on table? Did somebody take a thought of that and tried it? To me it seems one of the 3 flaws in your deck: Burdens is the other one and I think you'll get it difficult against a discarddeck. But still I think it's horrifying, because you only need 6 to 12 (against Dauntless Hunter) twillight to do your trick. Impressing!
« Last Edit: February 09, 2010, 03:57:07 AM by Smeagollum »

February 09, 2010, 05:24:04 AM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2010, 05:24:04 AM »
The good thing is that especially those who do not know or expect LttG will be in trouble. And that was the main reason why I was reluctant to post this deck and the reason why I will make a deck simular to this one that takes advantage of wounds on the RB. The biggest threat of this deck is knowledge. If someone expects LttG he will indeed keep his RB exhausted. That is why I play it with twilight nazgul. It could be another attempt at crushing the RB with burdens. Some saw it, were satisfied, because with their deck they had nothing to fear of Twilight Nazgul and they shouldn't. Plus, if you don't have ways to exhaust your RB, other than losing skirmishes, you don't like Nelya fierce damage+1 on your RB, in most cases.

The threats of this deck:

-knowledge
-heavy corruption
-a well played Fierce in Despair (I am so going to abuse that card in the nearby future :twisted:)
-discard --> only deck that causes my PC to crash, and not being able to load that game again :lol: I HATE DISCARD DECKS. I guess I have mentioned that before.
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February 09, 2010, 05:59:58 AM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2010, 05:59:58 AM »
See what you mean, but don't you give the information yourself by using into the west and playing those orcs?

Don't get me wrong, because I might see pressing, I am verry impressed by the deck you came up with and give great compliments for it! You've started puzzling me!

And doesn't most people hate discard...

February 09, 2010, 07:15:25 AM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2010, 07:15:25 AM »
Seriously, as long I only show some moria and nazzies, most don't have a clue...
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February 13, 2010, 03:27:45 AM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2010, 03:27:45 AM »
Maybe you want to insert Radagast for a tripple move?

February 22, 2010, 04:43:41 AM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2010, 04:43:41 AM »
hmmm, people. I need your opinion. I am a bit doubting about certain cards. First:

- Ringbearer. Isildur is a strong RB, but easy to corrupt, especially with binding ring. Still I like to use binding ring, for obvious reasons. Getting rings out of my deck.
- Twilight nazzies are great, but I have found myself with a filtered deck, and only 3 or so LttGs, which isn't helpful at all. In the past I have played this with the Palantir from TTT, which enables you to reveal the top card from any drawdeck and gives you the option to put it underneath that deck. Which could be a huge help, again for obvious reasons. With a filtered deck, just go and search for the last LttG. I could use some nice annoying [Isengard] minions such as grima, saruman, uruk soldier etc. Low costing minions with nice abilities.

Let me know what you think!
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