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July 23, 2008, 02:42:12 AM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2008, 02:42:12 AM »
[2] •Ori, At Your Service [Dwarven]
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
Each time Ori wins a skirmish, you may heal another companion with resistance 5 or more.
Maneuver: Remove 2 [Dwarven] tales from your discard pile from the game to make a Dwarf resistance +2 until the regroup phase.
Very soon two purple hoods, a grey hood, a brown hood, and a white hood were hanging on the pegs...
I think I'd prefer if the second ability was removing 1 card for resistance +1, and his first was healing a Dwarf with resistance 5 or more.

[2] •Nori, At Your Service [Dwarven]
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
At the start of the fellowship phase, you may exert Nori to play a possession (except a hand weapon) from your draw deck.
Skirmish: Discard 2 cards from hand to play a [Dwarven] tale from your discard pile.
Dori, Nori, and Ori brought out flutes from somewhere inside their coats...
Yeah, I'd definitely make his first ability play only [Dwarven] possessions or he's ridiculously good, and his skirmish ability needs to have a higher cost because of the uniqueness of his first ability in the [Dwarven] culture.

[2] •Dori, At Your Service [Dwarven]
Companion * Dwarf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
While Dori has resistance 5 or more, he has muster.
Regroup: Exert Nori and discard a [Dwarven] tale to discard a minion.
He had hardly turned the knob, before they were all inside, bowing and saying "at your service" one after another.
Presumably when it says "Nori" you mean "Dori"? Another slightly strange set of abilities for the [Dwarven] culture, but I think well costed.

[2] •Bifur, At Your Service [Dwarven]
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
While the fellowship is in region 1, Bifur is strength +2.
Skirmish: Discard a [Dwarven] tale from hand to make Bifur damage +1.
"At your service!" said Bifur, Bofur, and Bombur standing in a row.
Very very decent!

[2] •Bofur, At Your Service [Dwarven]
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
While the fellowship is in region 2, Bofur is resistance +2.
Fellowship: If you cannot spot 3 threats, add a threat to take a [Dwarven] tale from your discard pile into hand.
Bifur and Bofur went out too, and came back with clarinets that they had left among the walking-sticks.
Also very decent.

[2] •Bombur, At Your Service [Dwarven]
Companion * Dwarf
Strength: 5
Vitality: 4
Resistance: 5
While the fellowship is in region 3, Bombur is vitality +1.
Response: If a Dwarf with resistance 5 or more is about to take a wound, exert Bombur to prevent that wound.
For one thing, Bombur was immensely fat and heavy.
To be honest, I would remove his vitality bonus in favour of increasing his resistance - regardless of how fat he is, I don't think he's deserved of Thorin/Boromir resistance.

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July 23, 2008, 06:16:29 AM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2008, 06:16:29 AM »
Thanks guys for the speedy reviews.

This next batch is going to be fairly large, but they're all cards you've seen before. Maybe suggest a few tweaks to fit in with these better-connected Dwarves.

(0) That's What Bilbo Baggins Hates! [Dwarven]
Event • Skirmish
Tale.
Exert a Hobbit to make a Dwarf strength +3, or exert a Dwarf to make a Hobbit strength +3.
Chip the glasses and crack the plates! / Blunt the knives and bend the forks! / That's what Bilbo Baggins hates- /Smash the bottles and burn the corks!

[2] On Every Door! [Dwarven]
Event • Maneuver
Tale.
Spot Bilbo and exert a Dwarf (or spot 2 Dwarves and exert Bilbo) to reveal the top three cards of a Shadow player's draw deck. You may make that player choose to discard those cards or two cards from hand.
Cut the cloth and tread on the fat! / Pour the milk on the pantry floor! / Leave the bones on the bedroom mat! / Splash the wine on every door!

[1] Send Them Down the Hall to Roll! [Dwarven]
Condition • Support Area
Tale.
To play, spot a Dwarf.
At the start of the regroup phase, you may discard a [Dwarven] possession to heal a companion with resistance 5 or more.
Dump the crocks in a boiling bawl; / Pound them up with a thumping pole; / And when you've finished, if any are whole, / Send them down the hall to roll!

(0) Carefully, Carefully With the Plates! [Dwarven]
Event • Fellowship
Tale.
Spot a Dwarf to choose one: Add [1] to draw a card, add [2] to remove a threat, or add [3] to play a [Dwarven] possession from your draw deck.
That's what Bilbo Baggins hates! / So, carefully! Carefully with the plates!

[1]Thorin's Harp, Golden and Beautiful [Dwarven]
Possession
Resistance: +1
Bearer must be Thorin.
Maneuver: Exert Thorin and add [1] to play a [Dwarven] tale from your discard pile.
It was a beautiful golden harp, and when Thorin struck it the music began all at once, so sudden and sweet that Bilbo forgot everything else, and was swept away into dark lands under strange moons, far over The Water and very far from his hobbit-hole under The Hill.
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July 23, 2008, 06:24:27 AM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2008, 06:24:27 AM »

[1] That's What Bilbo Baggins Hates! [Dwarven]
Event • Skirmish
Tale.
Exert a Hobbit to make a Dwarf strength +3, or exert a Dwarf to make a Hobbit strength +3.
Chip the glasses and crack the plates! / Blunt the knives and bend the forks! / That's what Bilbo Baggins hates- /Smash the bottles and burn the corks!

Dont think this suits a tale, but its ok. Could cost 0.

[1] On Every Door! [Dwarven]
Event • Maneuver
Tale.
Spot Bilbo and exert a Dwarf (or spot 2 Dwarves and exert Bilbo) to reveal the top three cards of a shadow player's draw deck. You may make that player choose to discard those cards or two cards from hand.
Cut the cloth and tread on the fat! / Pour the milk on the pantry floor! / Leave the bones on the bedroom mat! / Splash the wine on every door!

Urgh horrible NPE but seeing as for some reason dwarves do that id lower the damage to the shadow player somehow.

[1] Send Them Down the Hall to Roll! [Dwarven]
Condition • Support Area
Tale.
To play, spot a Dwarf.
Regroup: Discard a [Dwarven] possession to heal a companion with resistance 5 or more.
Dump the crocks in a boiling bawl; / Pound them up with a thumping pole; / And when you've finished, if any are whole, / Send them down the hall to roll!

Ooof, rather powerful healing, needs tapering me thinks.

(0) Carefully, Carefully With the Plates! [Dwarven]
Event • Fellowship
Tale.
Spot a Dwarf to choose one: Add [1] to draw a card, add [2] to play a [Dwarven] possession from your draw deck, or add [3] to remove 2 threats.
That's what Bilbo Baggins hates! / So, carefully! Carefully with the plates!

Hmm thats a rather awesome threat removal for dwarves that they previously dont really have, id change that bit. And i never understand a card that can be used to draw another. Makes no sense. Surely ud just put in a different card, playing 1 to draw 1 more is no net gain and pointless to me.

[1]Thorin's Harp, Golden and Beautiful [Dwarven]
Possession
Resistance: +1
Bearer must be Thorin.
Maneuver: Exert Thorin to play a [Dwarven] tale from your discard pile.
It was a beautiful golden harp, and when Thorin struck it the music began all at once, so sudden and sweet that Bilbo forgot everything else, and was swept away into dark lands under strange moons, far over The Water and very far from his hobbit-hole under The Hill.

Might be a bit too good a recursion. Renders shadow condition discard pointless.

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July 23, 2008, 06:28:07 AM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2008, 06:28:07 AM »
[1] That's What Bilbo Baggins Hates! [Dwarven]
Event • Skirmish
Tale.
Exert a Hobbit to make a Dwarf strength +3, or exert a Dwarf to make a Hobbit strength +3.
Chip the glasses and crack the plates! / Blunt the knives and bend the forks! / That's what Bilbo Baggins hates- /Smash the bottles and burn the corks!
Good stuff, but I'd make it cost (0). Things like A Marvel and Noble Intentions are not particularly good, and this one only sits this high because it's a tale.

[1] On Every Door! [Dwarven]
Event • Maneuver
Tale.
Spot Bilbo and exert a Dwarf (or spot 2 Dwarves and exert Bilbo) to reveal the top three cards of a shadow player's draw deck. You may make that player choose to discard those cards or two cards from hand.
Cut the cloth and tread on the fat! / Pour the milk on the pantry floor! / Leave the bones on the bedroom mat! / Splash the wine on every door!
Interesting. 'Shadow' with a capital 'S', but otherwise I'm thinking [2] sits better.

[1] Send Them Down the Hall to Roll! [Dwarven]
Condition • Support Area
Tale.
To play, spot a Dwarf.
Regroup: Discard a [Dwarven] possession to heal a companion with resistance 5 or more.
Dump the crocks in a boiling bawl; / Pound them up with a thumping pole; / And when you've finished, if any are whole, / Send them down the hall to roll!
This is very good healing for a culture that is pretty poor at it, and it's not even limited to Dwarves. Needs some big penalty for keeping it in play in a similar manner to Dark Ways et al.

(0) Carefully, Carefully With the Plates! [Dwarven]
Event • Fellowship
Tale.
Spot a Dwarf to choose one: Add [1] to draw a card, add [2] to play a [Dwarven] possession from your draw deck, or add [3] to remove 2 threats.
That's what Bilbo Baggins hates! / So, carefully! Carefully with the plates!
I would make it add [2] to remove 1 threat and add [3] to play a [Dwarven] possession from your draw deck because they're both weaknesses of the [Dwarven] culture and need to be stronger controlled. I'd like it even more if it was replay instead of fetching, which is absolutely the strength of Dwarves. I still love this cycle though, so I'm giving you another :gp:!

[1]Thorin's Harp, Golden and Beautiful [Dwarven]
Possession
Resistance: +1
Bearer must be Thorin.
Maneuver: Exert Thorin to play a [Dwarven] tale from your discard pile.
It was a beautiful golden harp, and when Thorin struck it the music began all at once, so sudden and sweet that Bilbo forgot everything else, and was swept away into dark lands under strange moons, far over The Water and very far from his hobbit-hole under The Hill.
Looks good. Perhaps, following lem0n's fear, it should be at the start of the maneuver phase?

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July 23, 2008, 07:45:33 AM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2008, 07:45:33 AM »
The funny thing is a lot of these reviews completely contradict the reviews you guys gave me back at CC.

I'll make some changes.
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July 23, 2008, 07:46:53 AM
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« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2008, 07:46:53 AM »
The funny thing is a lot of these reviews completely contradict the reviews you guys gave me back at CC.

I'll make some changes.
I've noticed exactly the same thing on occasion: you most some cards, then a few months later you recap them and suddenly there's a whole host of completely different opinions! I guess it depends on how everyone's feeling at the time... ;)

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July 23, 2008, 07:48:16 AM
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« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2008, 07:48:16 AM »
Haha can i ask though, why do people post DC's twice?
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July 23, 2008, 08:01:02 AM
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« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2008, 08:01:02 AM »
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Haha can i ask though, why do people post DC's twice?

Couple different reasons....

Sometimes we post them a second (or third, or even fourth!) time specifically to see if people's opinions have changed. I know I've done this with cards that were first posted while LOTR TCG was still being made, then posted them again after the game was near death or finished to see if newer game concepts had changed what reviewers throught about them and their balance.

Sometimes we post them again because it's been SO long since the first posting that we've FORGOTTEN what people thought. :P

Sometimes we post them again because we want to remind reviewers of a concept that appeared in some of our older cards, usually because new ones we're posting at the same time refer back to them or work with them in some way. I usually refer back to a handful of cards in old sets when I move on to a new set, to tie them together and make people go "ooooooooh yeeeeeeeah, I remember that now!" :P

Anyway, just my thoughts. On to the revised cards....

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(0) That's What Bilbo Baggins Hates! [Dwarven]
Event • Skirmish
Tale.
Exert a Hobbit to make a Dwarf strength +3, or exert a Dwarf to make a Hobbit strength +3.
Chip the glasses and crack the plates! / Blunt the knives and bend the forks! / That's what Bilbo Baggins hates- /Smash the bottles and burn the corks!

Yep, better at (0).

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[2] On Every Door! [Dwarven]
Event • Maneuver
Tale.
Spot Bilbo and exert a Dwarf (or spot 2 Dwarves and exert Bilbo) to reveal the top three cards of a shadow player's draw deck. You may make that player choose to discard those cards or two cards from hand.
Cut the cloth and tread on the fat! / Pour the milk on the pantry floor! / Leave the bones on the bedroom mat! / Splash the wine on every door!

Capitalize "Shadow". :up: Rest is fine, though. Hurtful, but fine.

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[1] Send Them Down the Hall to Roll! [Dwarven]
Condition • Support Area
Tale.
To play, spot a Dwarf.
At the start of the regroup phase, you may discard a [Dwarven] possession to heal a companion with resistance 5 or more.
Dump the crocks in a boiling bawl; / Pound them up with a thumping pole; / And when you've finished, if any are whole, / Send them down the hall to roll!

Since it's non-unique, I think that's fine.

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(0) Carefully, Carefully With the Plates! [Dwarven]
Event • Fellowship
Tale.
Spot a Dwarf to choose one: Add [1] to draw a card, add [2] to remove a threat, or add [3] to play a [Dwarven] possession from your draw deck.
That's what Bilbo Baggins hates! / So, carefully! Carefully with the plates!

That last one seems awfully expensive...but for the purposes of keeping the cycle, it's fine. :up:

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[1]Thorin's Harp, Golden and Beautiful [Dwarven]
Possession
Resistance: +1
Bearer must be Thorin.
Maneuver: Exert Thorin to play a [Dwarven] tale from your discard pile.
It was a beautiful golden harp, and when Thorin struck it the music began all at once, so sudden and sweet that Bilbo forgot everything else, and was swept away into dark lands under strange moons, far over The Water and very far from his hobbit-hole under The Hill.

Maybe add [1] as well for that maneuver ability to give the Shadow player more to work with.
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July 23, 2008, 08:22:09 AM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2008, 08:22:09 AM »
[2] •Dungeons Deep and Caverns Old [Dwarven]
Condition • Support Area
Tale.
Skirmish:
Discard this condition and exert a Dwarf to make that Dwarf strength +X, where X is that Dwarf's resistance.
Far over the misty mountains cold / To dungeons deep and caverns old / We must away ere break of day / To seek the pale enchanted gold.

(0) In Places Deep, Where Dark Things Sleep [Dwarven]
Event • Maneuver
Tale.
Exert a Dwarf at an underground site to discard a minion. That minion's owner may then play a minion from their discard pile, it is twilight cost -3.
The dwarves of yore made mighty spells, / While hammers fell like ringing bells / In places deep, where dark things sleep, / In hollow halls beneath the fells.

[1] On Hilt of Sword [Dwarven]
Event • Fellowship
Tale.
Spot a Dwarf with resistance 5 or more and discard a [Dwarven] card from hand to play a [Dwarven] artifact from your draw deck or discard pile.
For ancient king and elvish lord / There many a gloaming golden hoard / They shaped and wrought, and light they caught / To hide in gems on hilt of sword.

(0) The Blazing Fire Spread [Dwarven]
Event • Maneuver
Tale.
Spot a Dwarf to draw a card. If you can spot a (R) minion, you may exert a Dwarf to draw 3 cards instead.
The pines were roaring on the height, / The winds were moaning in the night. / The fire was red, it flaming spread; / The trees like torches blazed with light.

[2] •To Win Our Harps And Gold! [Dwarven]
Condition • Support Area
Tale.
Each time a Dwarf kills a minion in a skirmish, you may play a [Dwarven] possession from your discard pile.
Regroup: If 3 Dwarves won skirmishes this turn, discard this condition to play a [Dwarven] artifact from your discard pile.
Far over the misty mountains grim / To dungeons deep and caverns dim / We must away, ere break of day, / To win our harps and gold from him!

All cards you've seen before. Pretty much unedited. Go crazy.
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July 23, 2008, 08:28:50 AM
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« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2008, 08:28:50 AM »
[2] •Dungeons Deep and Caverns Old [Dwarven]
Condition • Support Area
Tale.
Skirmish:
Discard this condition and exert a Dwarf to make that Dwarf strength +X, where X is his resistance.
Far over the misty mountains cold / To dungeons deep and caverns old / We must away ere break of day / To seek the pale enchanted gold.
Looks good.

(0) In Places Deep, Where Dark Things Sleep [Dwarven]
Event • Maneuver
Tale.
Exert a Dwarf at an underground site to discard a minion. The first shadow player may then play a minion from their discard pile, it is twilight cost -3.
The dwarves of yore made mighty spells, / While hammers fell like ringing bells / In places deep, where dark things sleep, / In hollow halls beneath the fells.
Now this one is very cool! I think perhaps the afflicted Shadow player should get the chance to play a minion instead.

[1] On Hilt of Sword [Dwarven]
Event • Fellowship
Tale.
Spot a Dwarf with resistance 5 or more and discard a [Dwarven] card from hand to play an artifact from your draw deck or discard pile.
For ancient king and elvish lord / There many a gloaming golden hoard / They shaped and wrought, and light they caught / To hide in gems on hilt of sword.
Again with the fetching, but this one's tough so I'll let it be. Just remember that it only took [Rohan] a single card (Simbelmeyne) to become the best Free Peoples culture at fetching.

(0) The Blazing Fire Spread [Dwarven]
Event • Maneuver
Tale.
Spot a Dwarf to draw a card. If you can spot a (R) minion, you may exert a Dwarf to draw 3 cards instead.
The pines were roaring on the height, / The winds were moaning in the night. / The fire was red, it flaming spread; / The trees like torches blazed with light.
That doesn't seem like much of a bonus, though I suppose it kind of isn't! I might want to see more on that theme as a cycle; it's a very interesting concept.

[1] •To Win Our Harps And Gold! [Dwarven]
Condition • Support Area
Tale.
Each time a Dwarf kills a minion in a skirmish, you may play a Dwarven possession from your discard pile.
Regroup: If 3 Dwarves won skirmishes this turn, discard this condition to play an artifact from your discard pile.
Far over the misty mountains grim / To dungeons deep and caverns dim / We must away, ere break of day, / To win our harps and gold from him!
You need some square brackets on the first ability, and I would make the second play a [Dwarven] artifact (depending on what you're doing with things like the Mithril-Coat or other Dwarven-things that could belong in other cultures), but otherwise good stuff.

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July 23, 2008, 08:40:15 AM
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« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2008, 08:40:15 AM »
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[2] •Dungeons Deep and Caverns Old [Dwarven]
Condition • Support Area
Tale.
Skirmish:
Discard this condition and exert a Dwarf to make that Dwarf strength +X, where X is his resistance.
Far over the misty mountains cold / To dungeons deep and caverns old / We must away ere break of day / To seek the pale enchanted gold.

"that Dwarf's" instead of "his", I think. I think it'd be best if it was only unbound Dwarves, but that's not strictly necessary.

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(0) In Places Deep, Where Dark Things Sleep [Dwarven]
Event • Maneuver
Tale.
Exert a Dwarf at an underground site to discard a minion. The first shadow player may then play a minion from their discard pile, it is twilight cost -3.
The dwarves of yore made mighty spells, / While hammers fell like ringing bells / In places deep, where dark things sleep, / In hollow halls beneath the fells.

Capitalize "Shadow", and I like Thran's suggestion. This is a very nasty way to rid yourself of, say, Sauron. :twisted:

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[1] On Hilt of Sword [Dwarven]
Event • Fellowship
Tale.
Spot a Dwarf with resistance 5 or more and discard a [Dwarven] card from hand to play an artifact from your draw deck or discard pile.
For ancient king and elvish lord / There many a gloaming golden hoard / They shaped and wrought, and light they caught / To hide in gems on hilt of sword.

I'd limit it to certain artifacts, like [Dwarven], [Gandalf] (assuming you plan featuring the Lakemen), and perhaps [Shire] ones. Otherwise, this becomes a rather unfair way to snag, say, Anduril.

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(0) The Blazing Fire Spread [Dwarven]
Event • Maneuver
Tale.
Spot a Dwarf to draw a card. If you can spot a (R) minion, you may exert a Dwarf to draw 3 cards instead.
The pines were roaring on the height, / The winds were moaning in the night. / The fire was red, it flaming spread; / The trees like torches blazed with light.

Nifty. :up:

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[1] •To Win Our Harps And Gold! [Dwarven]
Condition • Support Area
Tale.
Each time a Dwarf kills a minion in a skirmish, you may play a [Dwarven] possession from your discard pile.
Regroup: If 3 Dwarves won skirmishes this turn, discard this condition to play a [Dwarven] artifact from your discard pile.
Far over the misty mountains grim / To dungeons deep and caverns dim / We must away, ere break of day, / To win our harps and gold from him!

Again, I'd limit the applicable artifacts for the second part, perhaps strictly to [Dwarven] (and MAYBE [Shire]) ones here. I'd also recommend making this a little more expensive and/or adding a little twilight each time the skirmish ability is used.
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July 23, 2008, 09:04:25 PM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2008, 09:04:25 PM »
(0) Tookishness [Shire]
Event • Skirmish
Spot a Hobbit and add a threat to make that hobbit strength +3. If you can spot a Dwarf or Gandalf, you may draw a card.
He wished to go and see the great mountains, and hear the pine-trees and the waterfalls, and explore the caves, and wear a sword instead of a walking-stick.

[2] Rationalization [Shire]
Condition • Support Area
At the end of each of your turns, add a threat or discard this condition.
Skirmish: Exert a Hobbit not assigned to a skirmish twice to cancel a skirmish involving another Hobbit.
Suddenly in the wood beyond The Water a flame leapt up, and he thought of plundering dragons settling on his quiet Hill and kindling it all to flames. He shuddered; and very quickly he was plain Mr. Baggins of Bag-End, Under-Hill, again.

(0) •Bilbo, The Burglar [Shire]
Companion • Hobbit
Strength: 3
Vitality: 4
Resistance: 8
Ring-bearer.
While you can spot Gandalf, Bilbo is resistance +2.
Skirmish: Exert Bilbo twice to discard a possession borne by a minion he is skirmishing.
"Tell me what you want done, and I will try it, if I have to walk from here to the East of East and fight the wild Were-worms in the Last Desert."

[1] Not the Last Time! [Shire]
Event • Response
If a Hobbit is about to be overwhelmed, make that Hobbit strength +2.
If the fellowship is in region 1 or 2, you may play this event from your discard pile. Then, remove it from the game.
"Bother burgling and everything to do with it! I wish I was at home in my nice hole by the fire, with the kettle just beginning to sing!" It was not the last time that he wished that!

...and a reprint.

[2] Intimidate [Gandalf] (reprint)
Event • Response
Spell.
If a companion is about to take a wound, spot Gandalf to prevent that wound.
He turned and frowned at him and stuck out his bushy eyebrows, till Bilbo shut his mouth tight with a snap.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2008, 09:23:15 PM by Elf_Lvr »
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July 24, 2008, 01:30:42 AM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2008, 01:30:42 AM »
STOP POSTING SO FAST!

(0) Tookishness [Shire]
Event • Skirmish
Spot a Hobbit and add a threat to discard a shadow possession or make that hobbit strength +3. If you can spot a Dwarf or Gandalf, you may draw a card.
He wished to go and see the great mountains, and hear the pine-trees and the waterfalls, and explore the caves, and wear a sword instead of a walking-stick.

Wow way overpowered, hobbits dont have possession discard, and its awesome enough for a 0 cost +3 pump and then you give it the potential to draw a card! Tone some asepct of it down.

[2] Rationalization [Shire]
Condition • Support Area
At the end of each of your turns, add a threat or discard this condition.
Skirmish: Exert a Hobbit not assigned to skirmish twice to cancel a skirmish involving another Hobbit.
Suddenly in the wood beyond The Water a flame leapt up, and he thought of plundering dragons settling on his quiet Hill and kindling it all to flames. He shuddered; and very quickly he was plain Mr. Baggins of Bag-End, Under-Hill, again.

Ok.

(0) •Bilbo, The Burglar [Shire]
Companion • Hobbit
Strength: 3
Vitality: 4
Resistance: 8
While you can spot Gandalf, Bilbo is resistance +2.
Skirmish: Exert Bilbo twice to discard a possession borne by a minion he is skirmishing.
"Tell me what you want done, and I will try it, if I have to walk from here to the East of East and fight the wild Were-worms in the Last Desert."

Whats with this hobbit possession nuking? I get the flavour of it but hobbits cant do that!

[2] Not the Last Time! [Shire]
Event • Response
If a Hobbit is about to be overwhelmed, make that Hobbit strength +2.
If the fellowship is in region 1 or 2, you may play this event from your discard pile. Remove it from the game instead of placing it in your discard pile.
"Bother burgling and everything to do with it! I wish I was at home in my nice hole by the fire, with the kettle just beginning to sing!" It was not the last time that he wished that!

Sound, phrase it: If the fellowship is in region 1 or 2, you may play this event from your discard pile then remove it from the game.

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July 24, 2008, 02:22:19 AM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2008, 02:22:19 AM »
(0) Tookishness [Shire]
Event • Skirmish
Spot a Hobbit and add a threat to discard a shadow possession or make that hobbit strength +3. If you can spot a Dwarf or Gandalf, you may draw a card.
He wished to go and see the great mountains, and hear the pine-trees and the waterfalls, and explore the caves, and wear a sword instead of a walking-stick.
Discarding a Shadow possession is not equivalent to making a Hobbit strength +3. The strength bonus says it's fine at (0), but the discarding requires it to cost [2] at least, I reckon. Perhaps you should save the Shadow possession thing for another card which is more focused on Bilbo rather than Tooks as a whole.

[2] Rationalization [Shire]
Condition • Support Area
At the end of each of your turns, add a threat or discard this condition.
Skirmish: Exert a Hobbit not assigned to skirmish twice to cancel a skirmish involving another Hobbit.
Suddenly in the wood beyond The Water a flame leapt up, and he thought of plundering dragons settling on his quiet Hill and kindling it all to flames. He shuddered; and very quickly he was plain Mr. Baggins of Bag-End, Under-Hill, again.
Again: Is this useful in your set? How many Hobbits do you have?

(0) •Bilbo, The Burglar [Shire]
Companion • Hobbit
Strength: 3
Vitality: 4
Resistance: 8
While you can spot Gandalf, Bilbo is resistance +2.
Skirmish: Exert Bilbo twice to discard a possession borne by a minion he is skirmishing.
"Tell me what you want done, and I will try it, if I have to walk from here to the East of East and fight the wild Were-worms in the Last Desert."
This one looks good, except perhaps it should be at the start of the skirmish so that you can only do it once per fight. Is he the Ring-bearer?

[2] Not the Last Time! [Shire]
Event • Response
If a Hobbit is about to be overwhelmed, make that Hobbit strength +2.
If the fellowship is in region 1 or 2, you may play this event from your discard pile. Remove it from the game instead of placing it in your discard pile.
"Bother burgling and everything to do with it! I wish I was at home in my nice hole by the fire, with the kettle just beginning to sing!" It was not the last time that he wished that!
Very nice, but I think it could cost [1].

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July 24, 2008, 06:58:13 AM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2008, 06:58:13 AM »
Quote from: Elf_Lvr
(0) Tookishness [Shire]
Event • Skirmish
Spot a Hobbit and add a threat to discard a shadow possession or make that hobbit strength +3. If you can spot a Dwarf or Gandalf, you may draw a card.
He wished to go and see the great mountains, and hear the pine-trees and the waterfalls, and explore the caves, and wear a sword instead of a walking-stick.

I don't think you necessarily have to split it into two cards (though that wouldn't be a terrible idea), but if you keep it as is, I'd do this:

Spot a Hobbit and add a threat to choose one: add [2] to discard a Shadow possession; or make that Hobbit strength +3. If you can spot a Dwarf or Gandalf, you may draw a card.

Note the capitalization changes, too. ;)

Quote from: Elf_Lvr
[2] Rationalization [Shire]
Condition • Support Area
At the end of each of your turns, add a threat or discard this condition.
Skirmish: Exert a Hobbit not assigned to skirmish twice to cancel a skirmish involving another Hobbit.
Suddenly in the wood beyond The Water a flame leapt up, and he thought of plundering dragons settling on his quiet Hill and kindling it all to flames. He shuddered; and very quickly he was plain Mr. Baggins of Bag-End, Under-Hill, again.

"not assigned to a skirmish". Otherwise seems fine, though Thran makes a good point about this set.

Quote from: Elf_Lvr
(0) •Bilbo, The Burglar [Shire]
Companion • Hobbit
Strength: 3
Vitality: 4
Resistance: 8
While you can spot Gandalf, Bilbo is resistance +2.
Skirmish: Exert Bilbo twice to discard a possession borne by a minion he is skirmishing.
"Tell me what you want done, and I will try it, if I have to walk from here to the East of East and fight the wild Were-worms in the Last Desert."

NOT the Ring-bearer? That's a little surprising...who is?

And if he isn't, he needs to cost his normal [2].

Quote from: Elf_Lvr
[2] Not the Last Time! [Shire]
Event • Response
If a Hobbit is about to be overwhelmed, make that Hobbit strength +2.
If the fellowship is in region 1 or 2, you may play this event from your discard pile. Remove it from the game instead of placing it in your discard pile.
"Bother burgling and everything to do with it! I wish I was at home in my nice hole by the fire, with the kettle just beginning to sing!" It was not the last time that he wished that!

See lem0n's comments for wording. Okay other than that, though [1] might indeed be better.

Quote from: Elf_Lvr
[2] Intimidate [Gandalf] (reprint)
Event • Response
Spell.
If a companion is about to take a wound, spot Gandalf to prevent that wound.
He turned and frowned at him and stuck out his bushy eyebrows, till Bilbo shut his mouth tight with a snap.

Nifty. Good one to reprint. :up:
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