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July 24, 2008, 09:36:58 PM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #30 on: July 24, 2008, 09:36:58 PM »
Thanks for the reviews guys.  :up: Appropriate changes made.

There will probably be more Hobbits in this set somewhere. Although I have trouble thinking where... hmm...  ???

Anyways, I'll cover my confusion by posting more DCs! Time for... The Three Trolls!

[2] •Three Large Persons [Orc]
Condition • Support Area
Tom, Bert, and William are twilight cost -2.
Shadow: Discard this condition to take an [Orc] Troll from your discard pile into hand.
They were toasting mutton on long spits of wood, and licking the gravy off their fingers.

[8] •Bert, Very Large Person [Orc]
Minion • Troll
Strength: 13
Vitality: 4
Site: 3
Damage +1.
While you can spot William and Tom, Bert is fierce.
Assignment: Exert 3 [Orc] minions to assign Bert to an unbound companion. That companion may exert to prevent this.
"Mutton yesterday, mutton today, and blimey, if it don't look like mutton again tomorrer."

[8] •William, Very Large Person [Orc]
Minion • Troll
Strength: 13
Vitality: 4
Site: 3
Fierce.
While you can spot Bert and Tom, William is twilight cost -2.
Each time you use an assignment ability or play an [Orc] assignment event, you may heal William.
"What the 'ell William was a-thinkin' of to bring us into these parts at all, beats me - and the drink runnin' short, what's more."

[8] •Tom, A Very Large Person [Orc]
Minion • Troll
Strength: 15
Vitality: 4
Site: 3
While you can spot Bert and William, Tom is damage +1.
Assignment: Exert Tom to make him fierce until the regroup phase.
"And can yer cook 'em?" said Tom.

[1] Good Mutton [Orc]
Possession • Support Area
When you play this possession, add X [Orc] tokens here, where X is the current region number.
Skirmish or Assignment: Remove an [Orc] token from here (or discard this possession) to heal an [Orc] Troll.
"And time's been up our way, when yer'd have said 'thank yer Bill' for a nice bit o' fat valley mutton like what this is."

(0) Troll's Purse [Orc]
Possession • Support Area
When you play this possession, spot an [Orc] Troll to add an [Orc] token here for each [Orc] possession you can spot.
Assignment: Remove 3 [Orc] tokens from here to discard a possession. If that possession was an [Orc] possession, you may exert a companion.
Trolls' purses are the mischief, and this was no exception.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2008, 11:41:42 AM by Elf_Lvr »
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July 25, 2008, 07:03:20 AM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2008, 07:03:20 AM »
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[2] •Three Large Persons [Orc]
Condition • Support Area
Tom, Bert, and William are twilight cost -2.
Shadow: Discard this condition to take an [Orc] Troll from your discard pile into hand.
They were toasting mutton on long spits of wood, and licking the gravy off their fingers.

"...are each twilight cost -2", I think. Love it, though.

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[6] •Bert, Very Large Person [Orc]
Minion • Troll
Strength: 13
Vitality: 4
Site: 3
Damage +1.
While you can spot William and Tom, Bert is fierce.
Assignment: Exert 3 [Orc] minions to assign Bert to an unbound companion. That companion may exert to prevent this.
"Mutton yesterday, mutton today, and blimey, if it don't look like mutton again tomorrer."

Considering other 13/4 minions, and his low (though understandable) site number, and the potential cost reduction these guys get from the above condition, I'd make him cost [7] at least, and probably [8]. Balanced with that higher cost; OP without it.

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[6] •William, Very Large Person [Orc]
Minion • Troll
Strength: 13
Vitality: 4
Site: 3
Fierce.
While you can spot Bert and Tom, William is twilight cost -2.
Each time you use an assignment ability or play an [Orc] assignment event, you may heal William.
"What the 'ell William was a-thinkin' of to bring us into these parts at all, beats me - and the drink runnin' short, what's more."

Same story here, especially since he has a built-in FURTHER cost reduction. [8] is really must here. I'd also consider limiting that assignment ability to "each time you use a Troll's assignment ability", or at least "each time you use an [Orc] minion's assignment ability".

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[6] •Tom, A Very Large Person [Orc]
Minion • Troll
Strength: 15
Vitality: 4
Site: 3
While you can spot Bert and William, Tom is damage +1.
Assignment: Exert Tom to make him fierce until the regroup phase.
"And can yer cook 'em?" said Tom.

DEFINATELY needs a higher cost here. [8] is the bare minimum for a beatstick like this. Heck, the Witch-king has less strength and HE costs [8]!

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[1] Good Mutton [Orc]
Possession • Support Area
When you play this possession, add X [Orc] tokens here, where X is the current region number.
Skirmish or Assignment: Remove an [Orc] token from here (or discard this possession) to heal an [Orc] Troll.
"And time's been up our way, when yer'd have said 'thank yer Bill' for a nice bit o' fat valley mutton like what this is."

The order of assignment and skirmish should be switched, but that's a minor thing. Nice card, though I'd consider making it unique. :up:

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(0) Troll's Purse [Orc]
Possession • Support Area
When you play this possession, spot an [Orc] Troll to add an [Orc] token here for each [Orc] possession you can spot.
Assignment: Remove 3 [Orc] tokens from here to discard a possession. If that possession was an [Orc] possession, you may exert a companion.
Trolls' purses are the mischief, and this was no exception.

Nifty. I like the versatility of that assignment ability.
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July 26, 2008, 07:15:04 PM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2008, 07:15:04 PM »
There will probably be more Hobbits in this set somewhere. Although I have trouble thinking where... hmm...  ???
In the final set to my Hobbit block, I made The Old Took, Bullroarer, Belladonna Took and Bungo Baggins as companions.

[2] •Three Large Persons [Orc]
Condition • Support Area
Tom, Bert, and William are twilight cost -2.
Shadow: Discard this condition to take an [Orc] Troll from your discard pile into hand.
They were toasting mutton on long spits of wood, and licking the gravy off their fingers.
Seems reasonable.

[6] •Bert, Very Large Person [Orc]
Minion • Troll
Strength: 13
Vitality: 4
Site: 3
Damage +1.
While you can spot William and Tom, Bert is fierce.
Assignment: Exert 3 [Orc] minions to assign Bert to an unbound companion. That companion may exert to prevent this.
"Mutton yesterday, mutton today, and blimey, if it don't look like mutton again tomorrer."

[6] •William, Very Large Person [Orc]
Minion • Troll
Strength: 13
Vitality: 4
Site: 3
Fierce.
While you can spot Bert and Tom, William is twilight cost -2.
Each time you use an assignment ability or play an [Orc] assignment event, you may heal William.
"What the 'ell William was a-thinkin' of to bring us into these parts at all, beats me - and the drink runnin' short, what's more."

[6] •Tom, A Very Large Person [Orc]
Minion • Troll
Strength: 15
Vitality: 4
Site: 3
While you can spot Bert and William, Tom is damage +1.
Assignment: Exert Tom to make him fierce until the regroup phase.
"And can yer cook 'em?" said Tom.
I remember these cards, and pretty sure I liked them then, and I still like them now! Though costing [8] sounds all round like a good idea.

[1] Good Mutton [Orc]
Possession • Support Area
When you play this possession, add X [Orc] tokens here, where X is the current region number.
Skirmish or Assignment: Remove an [Orc] token from here (or discard this possession) to heal an [Orc] Troll.
"And time's been up our way, when yer'd have said 'thank yer Bill' for a nice bit o' fat valley mutton like what this is."
Surely these trolls should be better earlier on, not later? I would make a different token adding trigger.

(0) Troll's Purse [Orc]
Possession • Support Area
When you play this possession, spot an [Orc] Troll to add an [Orc] token here for each [Orc] possession you can spot.
Assignment: Remove 3 [Orc] tokens from here to discard a possession. If that possession was an [Orc] possession, you may exert a companion.
Trolls' purses are the mischief, and this was no exception.
This one looks fun!

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July 26, 2008, 09:09:36 PM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2008, 09:09:36 PM »
Upped twilight on the Three Trolls. Now, some more.

[2] Caught in a Sack [Orc]
Event • Assignment
Exert an [Orc] Troll to spot a companion. That companion cannot be assigned to a skirmish until the start of the regroup phase. That companion may exert to prevent this.
As each dwarf came up and looked at the fire, and the spilled jugs, and the gnawed mutton, in surprise, pop! went a nasty smelly sack over his head, and he was down.

(0) Disarguement [Orc]
Event • Assignment
Spot an [Orc] Troll to choose one: remove [1] to play an [Orc] possession from your discard pile, remove [2] to exert a companion, or remove [3] to spot a companion; that companion may not be assigned to skirmishes this turn.
...arguing whether they should roast them slowly, or mince them fine and boil them, or just sit on them one by one and squash them into jelly.


[2] •An Unpleasant Surprise [Orc]
Condition • Support Area
William, Bert, and Tom cannot be the target of maneuver events or maneuver special abilities.
Assignment: Spot an [Orc] minion and discard this condition to play an [Orc] Troll from your discard pile.
"It's trolls!" said Bilbo from behind a tree. They had forgotten all about him. "They're hiding in the bushes with sacks," said he.

(0) Mighty Suspicion [Orc]
Event • Shadow
Exert an [Orc] Troll to add [1] (or [2] if you can spot 6 companions) for each Free Peoples culture you can spot.
"A burrahobbit?" said they a bit startled. Trolls are slow in the uptake, and mighty suspicious about anything new to them.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2008, 08:30:37 PM by Elf_Lvr »
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July 27, 2008, 04:43:02 AM
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« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2008, 04:43:02 AM »
[2] Caught in a Sack [Orc]
Event • Assignment
Exert an [Orc] Troll to spot a companion. That companion cannot be assigned to a skirmish until the start of the regroup phase. That companion may exert to prevent this.
As each dwarf came up and looked at the fire, and the spilled jugs, and the gnawed mutton, in surprise, pop! went a nasty smelly sack over his head, and he was down.
Again, I seem to remember this one as well. No problems, I think.

(0) Disarguement [Orc]
Event • Assignment
Spot an [Orc] Troll to choose one: remove [1] to play an [Orc] possession from your discard pile, remove [2] to exert a companion, or remove [3] to spot a companion; that companion may not be assigned to skirmishes this turn.
...arguing whether they should roast them slowly, or mince them fine and boil them, or just sit on them one by one and squash them into jelly.
The second two might both be a bit too good. Perhaps you want an extra spotting cost to balance it out.

[2] •An Unpleasant Surprise [Orc]
Condition • Support Area
William, Bert, and Tom cannot be the target of maneuver events or special abilities.
Assignment: Spot an [Orc] minion and discard this condition to play an [Orc] Troll from your discard pile.
"It's trolls!" said Bilbo from behind a tree. They had forgotten all about him. "They're hiding in the bushes with sacks," said he.
You should specify "maneuver events or maneuver special abilities" which is presumably what you mean. I think it should perhaps exert that minion and maybe give a minor twilight reduction.

(0) Mighty Suspicion [Orc]
Event • Shadow
Exert an [Orc] Troll to add [2] for each Free Peoples culture you can spot.
"A burrahobbit?" said they a bit startled. Trolls are slow in the uptake, and mighty suspicious about anything new to them.
Seems very strong. Perhaps [1], with an option of becoming [2] (like if you can spot 6 companions).

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July 29, 2008, 08:35:45 PM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #35 on: July 29, 2008, 08:35:45 PM »
[1] Mutton Skewer [Orc]
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength: +1
Bearer must be an [Orc] Troll.
When you play this possession, you may draw a card.
Skirmish: Discard this possession to play an [Orc] support area possession from your discard pile.
"Yer can try," said Bert, picking up a skewer.

[2] Barrel of Good Drink [Orc]
Possession • Support Area
Vitality: +1
You may play this possession any time you could play a skirmish event.
When you play this possession, you may heal an [Orc] Troll from your support area.
Assignment: Transfer this condition to your [Orc] Troll.
Regroup: Return this possession to your support area.
Also there was a barrel of good drink at hand, and they were drinking out of jugs.

[2] Gluttony [Orc]
Event • Skirmish
Choose one: Make an [Orc] Troll strength +3, or discard all [Orc] possessions you can spot. If at least 4 possessions were discarded in this way, make an [Orc] Troll strength +5 and damage +2.
You've et a village and a half between yer, since we come down from the mountains. How much more d'yer want?

[2] •Swift Snatch [Orc]
Condtion • Support Area
To play, spot an [Orc] Troll.
If the Free Peoples player is about to prevent an assignment action (except involving the Ring-bearer) or cancel a skirmish, discard this condition to prevent that.
William turned round at once and grabbed Bilbo by the neck, before he could duck behind the tree.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2008, 08:38:37 AM by Elf_Lvr »
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July 30, 2008, 01:46:51 AM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2008, 01:46:51 AM »
[1] Mutton Skewer [Orc]
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength: +1
Bearer must be an Orc Troll.
When you play this possession, you may draw a card.
Skirmish: Discard this possession to play an [Orc] support area possession from your discard pile.
"Yer can try," said Bert, picking up a skewer.
You're missing square brackets on the first "Orc". Seems fine otherwise.

[2] Barrel of Good Drink [Orc]
Possession • Support Area
Vitality: +1
You may play this possession any time you could play a skirmish event.
When you play this possession, heal an Orc Troll.
Assignment: Transfer this condition to your Orc Troll.
Regroup: Return this possession to your support area.
Also there was a barrel of good drink at hand, and they were drinking out of jugs.
Again with missing square brackets. Are you sure that you shouldn't have a choice whether you heal an [Orc] Troll or not? And I think there should be at least some minor cost to transfer this back to your support area.

[2] Gluttony [Orc]
Event • Skirmish
Choose one: Make an [Orc] Troll strength +2, or discard all [Orc] possessions you can spot. If at least 4 possessions were discarded in this way, make an [Orc] Troll strength +5 and damage +2.
You've et a village and a half between yer, since we come down from the mountains. How much more d'yer want?
[2] for strength +2 is not a good deal. I would make the first +3 at least or the whole thing cost [1] (losing 4 possessions is a lot of twilight wasted anyway).

[1] •Swift Snatch [Orc]
Condtion • Support Area
To play, spot an [Orc] Troll.
If the Free Peoples player is about to prevent an assignment action (except involving the Ring-bearer) or cancel a skirmish, discard this condition to prevent that.
William turned round at once and grabbed Bilbo by the neck, before he could duck behind the tree.
Yep, seems good. Evil, but good!

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July 30, 2008, 02:57:31 AM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2008, 02:57:31 AM »

[1] Mutton Skewer [Orc]
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength: +1
Bearer must be an Orc Troll.
When you play this possession, you may draw a card.
Skirmish: Discard this possession to play an [Orc] support area possession from your discard pile.
"Yer can try," said Bert, picking up a skewer.

Meh ok.

[2] Barrel of Good Drink [Orc]
Possession • Support Area
Vitality: +1
You may play this possession any time you could play a skirmish event.
When you play this possession, heal an Orc Troll.
Assignment: Transfer this condition to your Orc Troll.
Regroup: Return this possession to your support area.
Also there was a barrel of good drink at hand, and they were drinking out of jugs.

Wow bandying about several of these could get messy, id rather see it unique or something.

[2] Gluttony [Orc]
Event • Skirmish
Choose one: Make an [Orc] Troll strength +2, or discard all [Orc] possessions you can spot. If at least 4 possessions were discarded in this way, make an [Orc] Troll strength +5 and damage +2.
You've et a village and a half between yer, since we come down from the mountains. How much more d'yer want?

Nice.

[1] •Swift Snatch [Orc]
Condtion • Support Area
To play, spot an [Orc] Troll.
If the Free Peoples player is about to prevent an assignment action (except involving the Ring-bearer) or cancel a skirmish, discard this condition to prevent that.
William turned round at once and grabbed Bilbo by the neck, before he could duck behind the tree.

Nasty up cost to 3 as it could force an auto kill on the RB in certain circumstances.

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July 30, 2008, 08:34:26 AM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #38 on: July 30, 2008, 08:34:26 AM »
You only got one review on the last batch, so I'll go back and cover those, too. :up:

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[2] Caught in a Sack [Orc]
Event • Assignment
Exert an [Orc] Troll to spot a companion. That companion cannot be assigned to a skirmish until the start of the regroup phase. That companion may exert to prevent this.
As each dwarf came up and looked at the fire, and the spilled jugs, and the gnawed mutton, in surprise, pop! went a nasty smelly sack over his head, and he was down.

Looks good to me. :up:

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(0) Disarguement [Orc]
Event • Assignment
Spot an [Orc] Troll to choose one: remove [1] to play an [Orc] possession from your discard pile, remove [2] to exert a companion, or remove [3] to spot a companion; that companion may not be assigned to skirmishes this turn.
...arguing whether they should roast them slowly, or mince them fine and boil them, or just sit on them one by one and squash them into jelly.

Yeah, that last one is a little tough. I'd exert the Troll instead of simply spotting it. That would help a bit. I'd also limit the last one until the regroup phase.

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[2] •An Unpleasant Surprise [Orc]
Condition • Support Area
William, Bert, and Tom cannot be the target of maneuver events or maneuver special abilities.
Assignment: Spot an [Orc] minion and discard this condition to play an [Orc] Troll from your discard pile.
"It's trolls!" said Bilbo from behind a tree. They had forgotten all about him. "They're hiding in the bushes with sacks," said he.

See Thran's comments.

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(0) Mighty Suspicion [Orc]
Event • Shadow
Exert an [Orc] Troll to add [1] (or [2] if you can spot 6 companions) for each Free Peoples culture you can spot.
"A burrahobbit?" said they a bit startled. Trolls are slow in the uptake, and mighty suspicious about anything new to them.

Seems about right now.

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[1] Mutton Skewer [Orc]
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength: +1
Bearer must be an Orc Troll.
When you play this possession, you may draw a card.
Skirmish: Discard this possession to play an [Orc] support area possession from your discard pile.
"Yer can try," said Bert, picking up a skewer.

Hey...funny how I've looked at such things when using them and thought "man, I could really hurt someone with this thing if I wanted to!" :P Seems okay to me.

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[2] Barrel of Good Drink [Orc]
Possession • Support Area
Vitality: +1
You may play this possession any time you could play a skirmish event.
When you play this possession, heal an Orc Troll.
Assignment: Transfer this condition to your Orc Troll.
Regroup: Return this possession to your support area.
Also there was a barrel of good drink at hand, and they were drinking out of jugs.

I agree with Thran: there should be some sort of cost for transferring these to or from the support area. I'd also limit that assignment ability to transferring them from your support area; as written, you could transfer it from one Troll to another, which could get...messy.

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[2] Gluttony [Orc]
Event • Skirmish
Choose one: Make an [Orc] Troll strength +2, or discard all [Orc] possessions you can spot. If at least 4 possessions were discarded in this way, make an [Orc] Troll strength +5 and damage +2.
You've et a village and a half between yer, since we come down from the mountains. How much more d'yer want?

+3 would be better for the first part. And make sure to always bold damage bonuses.

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[1] •Swift Snatch [Orc]
Condtion • Support Area
To play, spot an [Orc] Troll.
If the Free Peoples player is about to prevent an assignment action (except involving the Ring-bearer) or cancel a skirmish, discard this condition to prevent that.
William turned round at once and grabbed Bilbo by the neck, before he could duck behind the tree.

Perhaps [2] would be better. :up:
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August 08, 2008, 01:02:44 PM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #39 on: August 08, 2008, 01:02:44 PM »
[4] Hold 'Em In The Fire! [Orc]
Event • Assignment
Toil 2.
Assign an [Orc] Troll to a companion. The Free Peoples player may exert that companion to prevent this. If that Troll was William, Bert, or Tom, you may remove 2 [Orc] tokens to return this event from your discard pile to hand.
"Not till he says what he means by lots and none at all," said Bert. "I don't want to have me throat cut in me sleep. Hold his toes in the fire, till he talks!"

[1] Perfectly Honest Insult [Orc]
Event • Skirmish
Spot an [Orc] Troll to make an [Orc] minion strength +2. If that minion wins this skirmish, you may reinforce an [Orc] token.
They were fighting like dogs, and calling one another all sorts of perfectly true and applicable names in very loud voices.

[3] Detestable, Delicious! [Orc]
Event • Maneuver
Toil 1.
Exert an [Orc] Troll to discard a condition (or two conditions if you can spot a Dwarf).
Trolls simply detest the very sight of dwarves (uncooked).

[1] •Troll Tactics [Orc]
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot an [Orc] minion.
Each time you play an [Orc] assignment event, add an [Orc] token here.
Each time a Troll wins a skirmish, you may remove 3 [Orc] tokens from here to exert a companion.
He was sent spinning up into the top of some bushes, when Tom kicked the sparks up in Thorin's face.

(0) •The Secret Key [Orc]
Possession • Support Area
When you play this possession, add an [Orc] token here for each [Orc] Troll you can spot.
Assignment: Remove an [Orc] token from here (or discard this possession) to play an [Orc] possession from your draw deck.
He held out a largish key, though no doubt William had thought it very small and secret.

[2] •Troll's Hoard [Orc]
Possession • Support Area
To play, exert an [Orc] minion.
Shadow: Remove [1] to play your [Orc] possession stacked here.
Regroup: Remove [3] and spot an [Orc] Troll to stack a possession from a discard pile here.
There was a good deal of food jumbled carelessly on shelves and on the ground, among an untidy litter of plunder, of all sorts from brass buttons to pots full of gold coins standing in a corner.

More old cards. Some new ones for sure in the next batch.
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August 08, 2008, 09:02:43 PM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #40 on: August 08, 2008, 09:02:43 PM »
Could you try to post a smaller number at a time? Makes it a whole lot easier to review, you know! :P

August 08, 2008, 09:06:47 PM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #41 on: August 08, 2008, 09:06:47 PM »
Six cards is nothing compared to some of the DC posts I've made.

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August 09, 2008, 03:24:16 PM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #42 on: August 09, 2008, 03:24:16 PM »
[4] Hold 'Em In The Fire! [Orc]
Event • Assignment
Toil 2.
Assign an [Orc] Troll to a companion. The Free Peoples player may exert that companion to prevent this. If that Troll was William, Bert, or Tom, you may remove 2 [Orc] tokens to return this event from your discard pile to hand.
"Not till he says what he means by lots and none at all," said Bert. "I don't want to have me throat cut in me sleep. Hold his toes in the fire, till he talks!"
No problems here.

[3] Perfectly Honest Insult [Orc]
Event • Skirmish
Spot an [Orc] Troll to make another [Orc] minion strength +2. If that minion wins this skirmish, you may reinforce an [Orc] token on each of your support area possessions and conditions.
They were fighting like dogs, and calling one another all sorts of perfectly true and applicable names in very loud voices.
Shadow events that are too expensive are too tough to use (and for [3], I expect a little more strength). I would reduce the cost (I normally don't want to spend more than [1] on a skirmish event unless I have ambush) and just reinforce 1 token.

[3] Detestable, Delicious! [Orc]
Event • Maneuver
Toil 1.
Exert an [Orc] Troll to discard a condition (or two conditions if you can spot a Dwarf).
Trolls simply detest the very sight of dwarves (uncooked).
This is fine. Perhaps a Shadow event fits better with the [Orc] culture, though.

[1] •Troll Tactics [Orc]
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot an [Orc] minion.
Each time you play an [Orc] assignment event, add an [Orc] token here.
Each time a Troll wins a skirmish, remove 3 [Orc] tokens from here to exert a companion.
He was sent spinning up into the top of some bushes, when Tom kicked the sparks up in Thorin's face.
Did you mean for there not to be a choice? Because currently if a Troll wins and you have 3 tokens here, you have to do it.

(0) •The Secret Key [Orc]
Possession • Support Area
When you play this possession, add an [Orc] token here for each [Orc] Troll you can spot.
Assignment: Remove an [Orc] token from here (or discard this possession) to play an [Orc] possession from your draw deck.
He held out a largish key, though no doubt William had thought it very small and secret.
I'd prefer discard pile; [Orc] culture is much more about recursion than fetching.

[3] •Troll's Hoard [Orc]
Possession • Support Area
To play, exert an [Orc] minion.
Shadow: Remove [1] to play an [Orc] possession stacked here.
Regroup: Remove [3] and spot an [Orc] Troll to stack a possession from a discard pile here.
There was a good deal of food jumbled carelessly on shelves and on the ground, among an untidy litter of plunder, of all sorts from brass buttons to pots full of gold coins standing in a corner.
So if you're playing another [Orc] deck, you can snatch their possession and play them? Seems a bit much, doesn't it? Other than that the card's fine, though I don't think it needs the exertion or could cost [2] easily.

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August 11, 2008, 01:44:26 AM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #43 on: August 11, 2008, 01:44:26 AM »
Just cos 6 isnt high compared to what you HAVE posted doesnt mean its ok! I did mention a limit of 5 without me having to try to kill you....

[4] Hold 'Em In The Fire! [Orc]
Event • Assignment
Toil 2.
Assign an [Orc] Troll to a companion. The Free Peoples player may exert that companion to prevent this. If that Troll was William, Bert, or Tom, you may remove 2 [Orc] tokens to return this event from your discard pile to hand.
"Not till he says what he means by lots and none at all," said Bert. "I don't want to have me throat cut in me sleep. Hold his toes in the fire, till he talks!"

Cool.

[3] Perfectly Honest Insult [Orc]
Event • Skirmish
Spot an [Orc] Troll to make another [Orc] minion strength +2. If that minion wins this skirmish, you may reinforce an [Orc] token on each of your support area possessions and conditions.
They were fighting like dogs, and calling one another all sorts of perfectly true and applicable names in very loud voices.

Dont think this needs to cost 3, 2 would be ok.

[3] Detestable, Delicious! [Orc]
Event • Maneuver
Toil 1.
Exert an [Orc] Troll to discard a condition (or two conditions if you can spot a Dwarf).
Trolls simply detest the very sight of dwarves (uncooked).

Sound.

[1] •Troll Tactics [Orc]
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot an [Orc] minion.
Each time you play an [Orc] assignment event, add an [Orc] token here.
Each time a Troll wins a skirmish, remove 3 [Orc] tokens from here to exert a companion.
He was sent spinning up into the top of some bushes, when Tom kicked the sparks up in Thorin's face.

Could cost 0.

(0) •The Secret Key [Orc]
Possession • Support Area
When you play this possession, add an [Orc] token here for each [Orc] Troll you can spot.
Assignment: Remove an [Orc] token from here (or discard this possession) to play an [Orc] possession from your draw deck.
He held out a largish key, though no doubt William had thought it very small and secret.

Way too OP, this level of weapon recursion is just obscene, using this with an orc spear or hammer in orc twilight adding decks makes me shudder. You could keep reinforcing this and never run out of weapons. Not very often i say this but the card just needs cutting.

[3] •Troll's Hoard [Orc]
Possession • Support Area
To play, exert an [Orc] minion.
Shadow: Remove [1] to play an [Orc] possession stacked here.
Regroup: Remove [3] and spot an [Orc] Troll to stack a possession from a discard pile here.
There was a good deal of food jumbled carelessly on shelves and on the ground, among an untidy litter of plunder, of all sorts from brass buttons to pots full of gold coins standing in a corner.

More balanced way of retrieivng weapons. Also note its your discard pile not a discard pile, and if you intended it to be able to knick other peoples im gonna moan about it!

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August 11, 2008, 07:09:41 AM
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Re: Rise of the Ring - The Hobbit
« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2008, 07:09:41 AM »
I was ready to review, but then I realized that I really don't have anything to add to what my esteemed colleagues have already posted. So...uh...just re-read their stuff and imagine my name attached to it. :P
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