House errata (Custom format)

[Kev-La]

This post will slowly become more relevant to the Chamber of Mazarbul... I promise...Please bear with me...

I started collecting TLotRTCG when it first appeared, but "capped" my collection at the first card of Shadows. So I only own (nearly all of) the first ten sets plus a card from set 11. Most of the friends I play against use cards from my collection.

We like Reflections and we like the Weta Promos released prior to Shadows (maybe others too if I get hold of them).
We don't like being told we can't use cards (that good money's been paid for).

We usually play with cards from sets 1-10 and King Sites (plus those Weta promos and 11R1). We sometimes cap the allowable sets and use the relevant sites (at the moment I'm teaching my girlfriend to play using cards from set 1 only). Whichever "format" we play, we use text from the same relatively short list of errata to "replace" the text on the relevant cards (most of which were officially X-listed).

Ah! The relevancy at last!

Here's the first bunch for your perusal. More will follow. Please note, everything is the same as the original card except the title and game-text. (O) denotes an official erratum; (H) denotes a house erratum. Sorry I haven't yet learnt the keyboard acrobatics to make these prettier...

1 U 12 *Gimli ~ Dwarf of Erebor (O)
Damage +1.
Fellowship: If the twilight pool has fewer than 2 twilight tokens, add 2 to place a card from hand beneath your draw deck.

1 R 40 *Elrond ~ Lord of Rivendell (H)
To play, spot Gandalf or an Elf.
At the start of each of your turns, you may exert Elrond to heal every other ally whose home is site 3.
Fellowship: Exert Elrond twice to draw a card.

1 C 43 *Far-seeing Eyes (O)
Plays to your support area. Each time you play an Elf, choose an opponent to discard a card from hand.

1 R 45 *Galadriel ~ Lady of Light (H)
To play, spot Aragorn or an Elf.
At the start of each of your turns, you may exert Galadriel to heal every other ally whose home is site 6.
Fellowship: Exert Galadriel to play an Elf. That Elf's twilight cost is -2.

1 U 46 *Gift of Boats (O)
To play, exert an Elf ally. Plays to your support area.
When the fellowship moves from a river during the fellowship phase, the move limit for this turn is +1.

1 R 50 *Legolas ~ Greenleaf (H) New erratum, currently under playtest
Archer.
Archery: If you can spot more minions than wounds on Legolas, exert Legolas to wound a minion. Legolas does not add to the fellowship archery total.

1 R 55 *The Mirror of Galadriel (O)
Plays to your support area. Each ally whose home is site 6 is strength +1.
Manoeuvre: If an opponent has at least 7 cards in hand, exert Galadriel to look at 2 of those cards at random. Discard one card and replace the other.
If you cannot look at a Shadow player's hand, the effect of the above special ability is ignored.

1 R 80 *Ottar ~ Man of Laketown (H)
To play, spot Gandalf.
Fellowship: Exert Ottar and discard 2 cards from hand to draw a card.

1 U 108 No Stranger to the Shadows (H)
Bearer must be Aragorn or Faramir. Bearer must be a ranger. Limit 1 per bearer.
Each time the fellowship moves, you may spot a minion to remove 1.

[ket_the_jet]

I actually like them quite a bit, with the exception of Legolas, Greenleaf. If you errata him, you have to errata Aragorn's Bow. The questions would be raised about Sam, Son of Hamfast for one exertion = one burden.

Just a thought. If your playgroup likes that, run with it. I just play cards as they're meant to be played though.
-wtk

[MR. Lurtzy]

What do the (O) and (H) mean?

[MuadDib85]

(O) denotes an official erratum; (H) denotes a house erratum.

[MR. Lurtzy]

Where'd you find that at?

[Kev-La]

I actually like them quite a bit,...

Cool! Thanks

...with the exception of Legolas, Greenleaf. If you errata him, you have to errata Aragorn's Bow. The questions would be raised about Sam, Son of Hamfast for one exertion = one burden...

As far as I'm aware, whereas Legolas was X-listed at the time Mount Doom was the newest set, Aragorn's Bow and Son of Hamfast never were. I imagine it was felt these cards weren't overpowered like Greenleaf.

...Just a thought. If your playgroup likes that, run with it. I just play cards as they're meant to be played though.

Thanks for the feedback
I must admit to being unsure as to your meaning with "as they're meant to be played". Could you clarify for me, please?

[MR. Lurtzy]

...Just a thought. If your playgroup likes that, run with it. I just play cards as they're meant to be played though.

Thanks for the feedback
I must admit to being unsure as to your meaning with "as they're meant to be played". Could you clarify for me, please?

I think he means they are meant to be played using only Decipher's erratas.

[Kev-La]

I think he means they are meant to be played using only Decipher's erratas.

Ah, I see My own personal viewpoint is that every game of any sort is meant to be played in exactly the way agreed upon by the people who are playing it

[Kev-La]

Does anybody have any more feedback for me regarding these first few errata? I can post the rest tomorrow if anybody's interested?

[MR. Lurtzy]

If there are more, post them.

[Kev-La]

There's more, so since there's at least one person who wants me to, I'll post them tomorrow (if I remember to bring them in to work with me - I don't have internet access at home).
Thanks, MR. Lurtzy. Have a biscuit

[ket_the_jet]

Thanks, MR. Lurtzy. Have a biscuit

And let me give you another one so you now have 200 oatmeal cookies.

Hear that everyone?! I gave Lurtzy his 200th .
-wtk

[Thranduil]

1 R 50 *Legolas ~ Greenleaf (H) New erratum, currently under playtest
Archer.
Archery: If you can spot more minions than wounds on Legolas, exert Legolas to wound a minion. Legolas does not add to the fellowship archery total.

I'm really not at all convinced that Legolas needs errata, especially as his original text is really quite elegant and tagging on an inelegant clause doesn't sit very well with me. Aragorn's Bow shouldn't change either. But I would strongly consider bringing in errata for Son of Hamfast.

1 U 108 No Stranger to the Shadows (H)
Bearer must be Aragorn or Faramir. Bearer must be a ranger. Limit 1 per bearer.
Each time the fellowship moves, you may spot a minion to remove 1.

I see the fix and it's interesting, but I don't see any flavour reason why you should have to spot a minion. I think the post-Movie block fix (to put it on the R-list) is the best solution to the card, and then you could allow it for any ranger. I would just make it unique.

Otherwise, the erratas you've proposed seem very good and sensible to me. Any more?

Thranduil

[Kev-La]

I'm really not at all convinced that Legolas needs errata, especially as his original text is really quite elegant and tagging on an inelegant clause doesn't sit very well with me. Aragorn's Bow shouldn't change either. But I would strongly consider bringing in errata for Son of Hamfast.

We've been using an erratum for each of the cards that was X-listed at the time I stopped collecting newly released cards. When we first started doing this, we used the following for Legolas ~ Greenleaf:

Archer.
Archery: Exert Legolas to wound a minion. Legolas does not add to the fellowship archery total. Limit once per minion you can spot.

...but that proved a bit too confusing in-game. Hence the new erratum we're currently trying out. However, perhaps you're right about him never having needed to be X-listed. Decipher are quite obviously not  infallible, after all (but then, no-one is, in my humble opinon). I, too, am perfectly happy with Aragorn's Bow. Regarding Sam ~ Son of Hamfast, again, perhaps you're right. Any suggestions as to how you might amend his text if you were I, please?

I see the fix (for No Stranger to the Shadows) and it's interesting, but I don't see any flavour reason why you should have to spot a minion. I think the post-Movie block fix (to put it on the R-list) is the best solution to the card, and then you could allow it for any ranger. I would just make it unique.

Good point. The same thing occurred to me, but I could see no other way of restricting its use to moves made in the Regroup phase and only then when a minion or minions is present. We might try out your suggestion and see how it works for us.

Otherwise, the erratas you've proposed seem very good and sensible to me. Any more?

Thank you very much for your constructive feedback. It is greatly appreciated There are indeed more errata to follow, but unfortunately I've once again forgotten to bring them in to work with me To quote the excellent movie The Conversation (which I watched again last night), "Sunday, maybe?", "Sunday, definitely."

[chompers]

Bizarre ... I watched The Conversation last night for the first time ever. Interesting film ... I hated it and loved it at the same time.