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July 09, 2010, 10:36:38 AM
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Threats to avoid skirmishing?
« on: July 09, 2010, 10:36:38 AM »
Hey, this is my first time posting a thread question in here, my apologies if I somehow screw something up... tried to read all the rules and stickies and such first... But on to the question:

We were playing a match yesterday, and at the final site, the final fight came down to quite a showdown, with a bunch of strong (15/16) minions that were fierce taking on a pretty full slate of 8 companions. The companions were all exhausted though (except Frodo had 2 health I believe), and there were 3 threats.

So had the battles all played out, my Nazgul's special abilities would have exerted Frodo until he was exhausted, and the first 4 companions would have died, leaving 3 fierce minions and the issue of the threats. So, I thought I had won, since the threats would kill off the exhausted companions.

After the first skirmish was resolved though, when the first companion was killed, my cousin assigned all the threat wounds to the companions currently assigned to skirmish all my fierce minions (including those Nazgul). So because the threats didn't kill any non-assigned companions, he put the 3 fierce ones on the 3 non-ringbearers, ending the game with 8 dead companions but a still breathing Frodo.

So, was this just pure genius and good fortune for him? Or is there some kind of rule about how threats are added, that they can't be used to escape a skirmish, or must wait until all skirmishes are resolved? From what the rulebooks say (or rather don't say), it seems like this is most likely legal (dang!) but we wanted to know for sure, so he could be sure his victory was complete.

Sorry description is so long, thanks for the help!
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July 09, 2010, 11:18:05 AM
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Re: Threats to avoid skirmishing?
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2010, 11:18:05 AM »
It is indeed a legal strategy. It is also useful when trying to prevent burdens from ulaire enquea, toto
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I'm imploring people I've never met to pressure a government with better things to do to punish a man who meant no harm for something nobody even saw, thats what I'm doing!

July 09, 2010, 11:32:51 AM
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Re: Threats to avoid skirmishing?
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2010, 11:32:51 AM »
Agree to Sweet. The strategy was 100% legal.

July 09, 2010, 12:15:23 PM
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Re: Threats to avoid skirmishing?
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2010, 12:15:23 PM »
A very nice strategy to use against minions that only become fierce if they win their skirmish.

July 10, 2010, 12:08:28 AM
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Re: Threats to avoid skirmishing?
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2010, 12:08:28 AM »
Ok another question (won't clutter the forum with more threads of my dumb questions)...

You can perform an action even if the supposedly-desired result won't happen, correct?

Example being: I want to use Pippin, Wearer of Black and Silver as spotting/exertion fodder for my fellowship phase, but want him out of play after that for when I move another 1 or 2 times. Assuming that "Pippin is not assigned to a skirmish" can I "return him to your hand" even if there are no roaming minions to wound?

My understanding from reading some of the complex situations on these forums is that I could... since I met the requirement, I can perform the action, even if the result never occurs due to lack of roaming minions.

Let me know what you think, since I plan to use this and my cousin isn't sure I can. Thanks for being so helpful with the last question!

July 10, 2010, 12:16:17 AM
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Re: Threats to avoid skirmishing?
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2010, 12:16:17 AM »
Btw, my cousin wanted to say thanks as well, since he was pretty stoked to see the answers on here and know that he won for sure. (Especially since I beat him 2 days before in our last game)

But man, if this game today wasn't the closest game I ever played... I was using a new corruption deck, and he almost always bids 4-5 burdens in the bidding phase, but decided to bid 0 today to get his own site 2 and 3 into play. But despite that, I had him up to 7 burdens by the end, 8 companions dead, an exhausted ring-bearer, and I was waiting on site 8 with a full slate of healthy companions. It was by the skin of his teeth, but he did it. Losing was never as much fun.

July 10, 2010, 06:29:31 AM
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Re: Threats to avoid skirmishing?
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2010, 06:29:31 AM »
Ok another question (won't clutter the forum with more threads of my dumb questions)...

Example being: I want to use Pippin, Wearer of Black and Silver as spotting/exertion fodder for my fellowship phase, but want him out of play after that for when I move another 1 or 2 times. Assuming that "Pippin is not assigned to a skirmish" can I "return him to your hand" even if there are no roaming minions to wound?

Correct!  As long as you are fulfilling the requirements, it doesn't matter that the effect does not take place.