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August 06, 2010, 01:56:27 PM
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Elven-Gondor archery\ Raider deck...need help!!
« on: August 06, 2010, 01:56:27 PM »
hey! i´m new at LOTR tcg game so please help me and please fix my deck! tnx ;D

Starting Fellowship:
-The One Ring, answer to all riddles
-Galadriel, bearer of wisdom
-Glorfindel, revealed in wrath
-Legolas, greenleaf

Good: 40
-1x Arwen, queen of elves and men
-2x Cirdan, the shipwright
-2x Gil-Galad, elven high king
-1x Haldir, elf of the golden wood
-3x Aragorn, hier of elendil
-3x Faramir, son of denethor

-2x defience
-4x double shot
-4x elven bow
-1x aiglos
-1x bow of the galadhrim
-1x the splendor of their banners
-1x the tale of gil-galad
-4x gondor bowmen
-4x might of numenor
-2x aragorn´s bow
-2x faramir´s bow

Shadow:40
-3x Desert runner
-3x Desert sneak
-3x Desert scout
-3x Southron chieftain
-4x Desert lord
-3x Suzerain of harad
-3x Morgul lurker

-3x harsh tongues
-1x mumakil
-3x red wrath
-3x rout
-3x seasoned leader
-3x whirling strike

...and can you please tell me which cards should i add and remove to make my shadow site raider archer?! tnx

August 06, 2010, 02:21:54 PM
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Re: Elven-Gondor archery\ Raider deck...need help!!
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2010, 02:21:54 PM »
40 cards is way to much imo withought any cycling. You are going to have a really hard time getting to your cards... Oh and welcome to the forums!   :)

Okay  I played with the deck a little more And here is what I came up with.

32 freeps

Starting Fellowship:
ATAR
- Isildur Bearer of Heirlooms
-Glorfindel, revealed in wrath
-Legolas, greenleaf

-1x Arwen, queen of elves and men
-2x Cirdan, the shipwright
-2x Gil-Galad, elven high king
-3x Aragorn, Heir of Elendil (Telcontar might not be bad either)


4x Feathered
-4x double shot
-4x elven bow
-1x the splendor of their banners
-1x Gwemegil
-4x gondor bowmen
-2x might of numenor
-2x Aragorns Bow


I think this makes the deck much better, you may have to deck Narsil blade of the faithful, and 2x Scroll of Isildur for Corruption protection though... Anyways I hope this helped. Oh and Make sure to run this deck with a fast Shadow side, imo Southrouns don't accomplish this.





« Last Edit: August 07, 2010, 09:16:19 AM by TheHobbit13 »

August 07, 2010, 03:43:57 AM
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Re: Elven-Gondor archery\ Raider deck...need help!!
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2010, 03:43:57 AM »
Welcome Turon. For a new player, I'd say that I like your fellowship. Your choices of cards are good. I'd suggest getting rid of Faramir but keeping Aragorn and his bow may be a good idea. Aegnor is also a companion you might want to try. Keep only one or two Might of Numenor and add Shadow Between.

TheHobbit13: Elven Marksmanship isn't Movie Block legal.

August 07, 2010, 05:37:37 AM
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Re: Elven-Gondor archery\ Raider deck...need help!!
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2010, 05:37:37 AM »
TheHobbit13: Elven Marksmanship isn't Movie Block legal.

Neither is The One Ring, Ring of Rings. Also, what the #$&*@! do you mean Aragorn's Bow isn't that good? That's probably the best non-artifact possession in movie block (and probably top three overall, with Gandalf's Staff and Anduril, Flame of the West).

As for the deck, I don't think it would be too hard to get it to 36/36 or even 34/34. Here are my recommendations:

Remove:
1x Haldir, Elf of the Golden Wood
1x Faramir, Son of Denethor
1x The Tale of Gil-Galad
2x Defiance
2x Might of Numenor
1x Bow of the Galadhrim
1x Faramir's Bow

Add:
1x Sam, Son of Hamfast
1x Figwit
1x Shadow Between
1x Nenya, Ring of Adamant

That has the free people's at 35 cards which is a fine number.

As for the Shadow:
Remove:
4x Desert Lord
3x Seasoned Leader
1x Mumakil
2x Whirling Strike
1x Suzerain of Harad

Add:
1x Desert Runner
1x Rallying Call
3x High Vantage
1x Southron Veterans

I know that isn't the [Raider] archery you requested, but you had a lot more going toward the Initiative stuff anyways. Here are my biggest concerns with the deck as it stands:

The Free Peoples' doesn't have any protection from Ulaire Enquea, Lieutenant of Morgul, etc., unless they have a Might of Numenor in hand. I added Nenya, Ring of Adamant to combat shotgun Enquea as well.

The deck doesn't have much in terms of cycling on the free peoples' side or the shadow side. It may be worth removing Glorfindel, Revealed in Wrath and starting Arwen, Queen of Elves and Men. You can add a copy of Gwemegil, which is still one of my favorite cards ever for cycling.

Southron Chieftain. I use him in my initiative [Raider] deck too, but he can be really tough because he requires a spot and if the Shadow player assigns him last, you don't get all of the wounds from the little guys unless the Free Peoples' player decides to move again.

You do realize that Haldir, Elf of the Golden Wood is a useless companion, right? Haldir, Emissary of the Galadhrim would've been a better call; however, I don't even recommend putting him in this deck.

Burden Removal! I added Sam, Son of Hamfast.

Good luck with the deck. It looks pretty good, especially for a beginner!
-wtk

August 07, 2010, 09:09:32 AM
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2010, 09:09:32 AM »
TheHobbit13: Elven Marksmanship isn't Movie Block legal.

Right, I forgot this was movie.

@ Ket The Jet

Sure Aragorns Bow is good but then you have to pack 3 Aragorn and two of his bow, which will just clog your draw. Anyhow, Aragorn is only going to give you one archery or 3 direct wounds per archery phase (I doubt you would want to exhaust Aragorn though in one phase).  Personally I try not to play with two many splash cards when I have a freeps with  little to know cycling. Maybe your right though, you have more experience than me. Keep in mind that I though he needed Elven Marksmanship x3, so we were a little cramped for space. I will edit the deck list and put them back in.

August 07, 2010, 09:22:14 AM
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2010, 09:22:14 AM »

...and can you please tell me which cards should i add and remove to make my shadow site raider archer?! tnx

I've played with a similar shadow before and High Vantage is a must if you're planning to have guys survive to put tokens on Harsh Tongues. Also, if you wanted to go more archer themed Raider Bow helps a lot and gives extra twilight so you could possibly max out a Harsh Tongues in one regroup phase if needed. I also splash a copy of Haradwaith. If I grab it early, it allows my guys to put a nice hurt on a freshly healed fellowship right after the site 3 sanctuary and even if you get it later, you can discard an unwanted extra copy of Harsh Tongues, etc. as a one time cycling help and twilight boost. Oh yeah, and Mumakil :twisted: are fun and brutal with this deck type.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2010, 09:30:37 AM by putridbreath »

August 08, 2010, 12:48:54 AM
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2010, 12:48:54 AM »
thank you all for your fixes and suggestions! i will try how does it works! i have played several games with old deck and i have big problems with getting iniative!  :(

August 08, 2010, 03:18:44 AM
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2010, 03:18:44 AM »
thank you all for your fixes and suggestions! i will try how does it works! i have played several games with old deck and i have big problems with getting iniative!  :(
Harsh Tongue is a bad way to get initiative. I'd suggest using Corsair War Galley instead.

August 08, 2010, 07:45:53 AM
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2010, 07:45:53 AM »
How do you suggest adding tokens to Corsair War Galley?
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