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August 14, 2010, 09:44:09 PM
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Multi culture token deck (Freeps only)
« on: August 14, 2010, 09:44:09 PM »
This is a deck I've been using on GCCG lately, but it's gotten inconsistent setups and I never know what to expect of it.  I hoping I can get some advice to improve it so it'll work better.

Isildur, Bearer of Heirlooms
The One Ring, Answer to All Riddles
Gimli, Unbidden Guest
Legolas, Elven Comrade

Aragorn, Defender of the Free Peoples x4
Elrond, Herald to Gil-Galad x2

Gimli's Battle Axe x2
Ring of Retribution
Bow of the Galadhrim, Gift of Galadriel
Long-Knives of Legolas
Ring of Barahir
Scroll of Isildur
Anduril, Flame of the West x2
Strands of Elven Hair
Narsil, Blade of the Faithful x2

My Axe is Notched x2
Stout and Strong
Agility
Final Count x2

Kazad Ai-Menu x4
Valor x3
Trust x2


The basic idea is to get tokens on both My Axe is Notched and Final Count to help Legolas and Gimli win more skrimishes, as well as heal and help Aragorn win skrimishes too.  I've been using Gimli, Feared Axeman, but I switched to Unbidden Guest for his strength pump ability.  Not sure which is better at this point yet.  I might also use Shoulder to Shoulder with Feared Axeman so Legolas can use his ability more often.  I'm just trying to see what will make this deck run better. Any thoughts?

August 14, 2010, 10:06:23 PM
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Re: Multi culture token deck (Freeps only)
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2010, 10:06:23 PM »
I run a "token fellows" fellowship and I've found it useful to add Suspended Palaces and when the tokens are gone I use Axe of Erebor to turn the condition into a strength pump. I also have one more companion. I start Glorfindel, Revealed in Wrath with Gimli and add copies of Legolas to draw. I also use Strength of Arms so both Legolas and Glorfindel can contribute to make Aragorn a beast. I've found A Path Appointed to work in this kind of deck for discarding minions in regroup. The exertions required to add the tokens can be easily healed.
Just my thoughts. I've found token fellowships to be really fun to play and I like the build you posted.
Corsair Freebooter:down:

August 14, 2010, 11:20:39 PM
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Re: Multi culture token deck (Freeps only)
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2010, 11:20:39 PM »
Corsair Freebooter isn't that bad, but you are dead against any kind of Swarm. And when I say any, I mean any. Really, if I get 6 minions out, let's say, 6 Sauron Uruks and then have a Rank and File.. good bye Isildur!

So, let's start with some approvement. First of all, Fereveldir. He's really awesome with Elven tokens, and you should maybe rely more on wounding than winning skirmishes. That's why I suggest Greenleaf. As for Gimli, you could use  Skilled Defender, a card that still wants to make him win skirmishes but also wounds a bit. You have no kind of possession/ condition removal, so try BRC or Company of Archers if using Fereveldir. Also, I don't think you need 2 of those possesions, you can drop the second copies to use Aragorn's Bow and Ranger's Sword instead of Flame of the West, Axe of Erebor would indeed be a nice choice over Gimli's Battle axe, but If you really wanna go the wounding way, Gimli's Battle Axe is the way to go. And Sam, Eater of Burdens obviously.
 
You should really think bout the whole Deck. You can use that strategy in TTT Block, but in Movie, you get crushed by good Sarms, by Corruption, by Besiegers, by Isengard (Saruman's Power), by Corsairs, by ... I guess you got it, right. ;)

August 15, 2010, 04:15:45 AM
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Re: Multi culture token deck (Freeps only)
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2010, 04:15:45 AM »
I've never found tokens to be a viable strategy. I mean, except for Noble Leaders I guess.
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August 15, 2010, 04:19:10 AM
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Re: Multi culture token deck (Freeps only)
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2010, 04:19:10 AM »
You should really think bout the whole Deck. You can use that strategy in TTT Block, but in Movie, you get crushed by good Sarms, by Corruption, by Besiegers, by Isengard (Saruman's Power), by Corsairs, by ... I guess you got it, right. ;)

I have a similar deck and it stands quite well against all you mentioned except for a well placed Saruman's Power. This is how my deck looks like:

Frodo, RH
The One Ring, Such a Weight to Carry

1x Gimli, UG
1x Legolas, EC
4x Aragorn, DoFP
2x Fereveldir
1x Sam, SoH

2x Bounder

1x Trusted Weapon
1x Aragorn's Bow
1x Ranger's Sword
1x Asfaloth
1x Bow of the Galadhrim
1x Long-knives of Legolas
1x Sting, Baggins Heirloom
1x Hand Axe

1x Ring of Retribution
1x Ring of Barahir

2x Final Count
1x My Axe is Notched
1x Strong Arms
1x Stout and Strong
1x Agility
1x Suspended Palaces
1x Strands of Elven Hair
1x TTotGR
1x TaBA

2x Trust
2x Khazad Ai Menu
2x Valor

This may not be completely accurate, but something very similar to this is a deck I play with. It fares quite well against many shadows, but it has some huge weaknesses: Grima, CC destroys it, but he is extremely rarely played and Saruman's Power cripples it greatly. The deck has a wounding component (Legolas, Aragorn's Bow, Trusted Weapon, Fereveldir, Bow of the Galadhrim) and it can hold it's own in a skirmish. It is fast played as pretty much anything you get you can play, but depending on the draw it can leave a lot of pool. Still, I found it quite effective and what's most important, very fun to play with. I pair it with Stinker - Easterling corruption shadow (with no Captain Crunch)
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August 15, 2010, 09:22:39 AM
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Re: Multi culture token deck (Freeps only)
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2010, 09:22:39 AM »
You don't have a *Rohan* Man to play strong Arms :(

August 15, 2010, 09:35:17 AM
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Re: Multi culture token deck (Freeps only)
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2010, 09:35:17 AM »
« Last Edit: August 15, 2010, 09:37:01 AM by uncle_elrond »

August 15, 2010, 09:37:58 AM
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Re: Multi culture token deck (Freeps only)
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2010, 09:37:58 AM »
Why do you have two copies of Final Count but only one copy of My Axe is Notched?

I still don't think this deck is going to win many games at all. These are the kinds of decks that I see on GCCG and just salivate at the thought of a site 4 slaughter.

But if you are convinced that this is the way you want to go, Gimli, Feared Axeman will protect some of your conditions. Faramir, Son of Denethor is an extra fighter since you will undoubtedly lose a companion early in the game.
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August 15, 2010, 10:09:33 AM
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Re: Multi culture token deck (Freeps only)
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2010, 10:09:33 AM »
Why do you have two copies of Final Count but only one copy of My Axe is Notched?

Because of the Dunharrow Plateau. I bid 0, but I still I get to choose who goes first many times. Not the mention the times people choose me to go first or even they themselves have Dunharrow Plateau as their first site. So it's not worth an extra slot.

I still don't think this deck is going to win many games at all. These are the kinds of decks that I see on GCCG and just salivate at the thought of a site 4 slaughter.
You are correct in saying that site 4 is probably the most difficult one for this deck, but rarely was that the case for me. It has to be a good draw for the shadow and a rather bad one for me.

But if you are convinced that this is the way you want to go, Gimli, Feared Axeman will protect some of your conditions. Faramir, Son of Denethor is an extra fighter since you will undoubtedly lose a companion early in the game.

I prefer Gimli, UG to help in the fight. Legolas is actually the main fighter here, especially once I equip him. Faramir, SoD might be a good backup. However, I just noticed I have no condition removal whatsoever in the build I posted, but I'm sure I have something in my actual deck. I agree that this is not as competitive deck as Rainbow Wound or Gondor/Gandy Artifact for example, but to me it's much more fun to play and that's really all that matters.

You don't have a *Rohan* Man to play strong Arms :(

Strength of Arms is what I had in mind. ;)



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August 15, 2010, 11:27:35 AM
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Re: Multi culture token deck (Freeps only)
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2010, 11:27:35 AM »
hrcho is right.  Only one My Axe is Notched because I can pull it from Dunharrow Plateau.  I was there wasn't so many useful verisons of Gimli, it makes choosing the right one that much harder.  Skilled Defender, Unbidden Guest, and Fearless Axeman would all be good in this build, but I don't know which I ultimately will choose.  I try to move slow at the beginning to get set up a bit so site 4 isn't a total disaster, only problem is that it gives the Shadow player a better chance of setting up a good hand.  Either way it's a gamble.  I know it's not as competitive as other builds of wounding decks, but then it's a good thing I'm not competing with this one  8-)

August 18, 2010, 06:26:30 PM
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2010, 06:26:30 PM »
I agree with ket, but that doesn't mean I don't like this deck. 
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