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October 23, 2010, 08:53:14 PM
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Don't wanna make polemics or something but
« on: October 23, 2010, 08:53:14 PM »
Have you guys seen this???

http://www.chimpout.com/forum/index.php

I was friggin' blown away, in the bad sense. W-T-F.
"To ask if Orcs "are" Communists is to me as sensible as asking if Communists are Orcs." - JRR Tolkien, regarding his "allegory".

October 23, 2010, 09:03:18 PM
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Re: Don't wanna make polemics or something but
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2010, 09:03:18 PM »
This world is Rotten.
But you know
the saying:
'play with fire,
and you're
bound to get burned.'

October 23, 2010, 09:13:34 PM
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Re: Don't wanna make polemics or something but
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2010, 09:13:34 PM »
Yeah, I hope other people will take this seriously.
"To ask if Orcs "are" Communists is to me as sensible as asking if Communists are Orcs." - JRR Tolkien, regarding his "allegory".

October 24, 2010, 01:18:04 AM
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Re: Don't wanna make polemics or something but
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2010, 01:18:04 AM »
Don't you just love it how those people take themselves seriously? They are pathetic in the true sense of the word. We should pity them, and ignore the things they say...since ignorance is the way they obviously are going...
..."Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill"...

October 24, 2010, 07:24:33 AM
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Re: Don't wanna make polemics or something but
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2010, 07:24:33 AM »
Well, that makes a lot of sense! You know, I actually am aware that I shouldn't have even posted this in the first place, but the thing is, I'm a journalist, I just cannot help showing the other people the things that shock me.
"To ask if Orcs "are" Communists is to me as sensible as asking if Communists are Orcs." - JRR Tolkien, regarding his "allegory".

November 04, 2010, 09:11:50 AM
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Re: Don't wanna make polemics or something but
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2010, 09:11:50 AM »
Don't you just love it how those people take themselves seriously?

Most people do.

They are pathetic in the true sense of the word.

No they aren't. Pathetic comes from the Greek word 'pathetos' and means "one who has suffered, subject to suffering". They are hardly suffering, just taking pot-shots at a race of people.


We should pity them, and ignore the things they say...since ignorance is the way they obviously are going...

Let's be morally superior, and feel sorry for these poor people who were obviously raped by their parents and now take it out on blacks. While we're at it let's ignore them, and make sure they notice that we don't even notice them. Also, let's enjoy how informed we are above these obvious ignoramuses and the obviously uninformed things they say.

Good luck with that.  :up:
« Last Edit: November 04, 2010, 09:15:42 AM by Door Orc »

November 04, 2010, 09:34:11 AM
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Re: Don't wanna make polemics or something but
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2010, 09:34:11 AM »
Great comment, it has made a lasting impact.... Wonder what your church has to say about how to deal with these people? Sigh, I shouldn't be tempted to even react. But some of your assumptions about enjoying being superior, people being raped, well, I thought they were far-stretched. But it could be just me....
« Last Edit: November 04, 2010, 10:05:02 AM by Gil-Estel »
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November 04, 2010, 11:06:19 AM
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Re: Don't wanna make polemics or something but
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2010, 11:06:19 AM »
Wonder what your church has to say about how to deal with these people?

Boosh! Really though, this stuff is kind of funny. Not the website, but the bigoted Christian who condemns hate speech against another race but use slurs against the homosexual community and adds callous, offensive statements about rape to previous inappropriate statements like chastising a new father for not being married or casually using the words  like "gay" and "retarded."

Haven't we had the conversation before that if you are going to proclaim a religious affiliation you shouldn't be an embarrassment to it?
-wtk

November 04, 2010, 01:13:15 PM
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Re: Don't wanna make polemics or something but
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2010, 01:13:15 PM »
Great comment, it has made a lasting impact.... Wonder what your church has to say about how to deal with these people? Sigh, I shouldn't be tempted to even react. But some of your assumptions about enjoying being superior, people being raped, well, I thought they were far-stretched. But it could be just me....

I apologize for that. It was completely unwarranted, but with the slightly self-righteous dismissive way you wrote all that I just couldn't resist picking it apart. No offense intended, and I certainly am not trying to support the racists. Don't get me wrong, I think racism is utter stupidity.

Wonder what your church has to say about how to deal with these people?

Boosh! Really though, this stuff is kind of funny. Not the website, but the bigoted Christian who condemns hate speech against another race but use slurs against the homosexual community... ...or casually using the words  like "gay" and "retarded."


If it isn't the most offensive member of TLHH telling me I'm offensive. Wonders never cease...
I like how you try to slam me for having a double standard, and being a "bigoted Christian who condemns hate speech against another race but use slurs against the homosexual community." Homosexuals are perverts, and I will make no bones about that. Homosexuality is up there with bestiality and child molestation as far as sick, sexual obsessions go.
As for saying 'gay' too freely: I seem to remember that after you 'called me out' for doing that, you proceeded to drop words that would offend blacks, jews, mexicans, and plenty of other people groups. Check out this link, type in 'gay', and hit 'search' if you think I'm the only person to use 'gay' in the pejorative sense and just use it because I'm a 'bigoted Christian'. As for me being insensitive to retards, cut the crap and read your own post right here.



...and adds callous, offensive statements about rape to previous inappropriate statements like chastising a new father for not being married
Haven't we had the conversation before that if you are going to proclaim a religious affiliation you shouldn't be an embarrassment to it?
-wtk

I believe in marriage before sex, not only for all of the moral reasons (which I'm sure you have no respect for, seeing as you openly admit to looking at porn) but also for the fact that parents that have made some sort of binding commitment to each other are much more likely to work towards a relationship that will guarantee their children a stable home.
How is all of that, which is in the Bible, an embarrassment to Christianity?

Awaiting your response...

-GT

November 04, 2010, 01:39:31 PM
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Re: Don't wanna make polemics or something but
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2010, 01:39:31 PM »
I never claimed to live a life based on another's moral guidelines irrefutably or to be a beacon to the world of a perfect human capable of saving humanity. I never said I am a representative of a purportedly magic Jew who loved everyone. In fact, I think I have made it clear that I see no redeeming qualities in humanity and that every race, sexuality, culture, nationality, cognative faculty, gender, etc., is equally hopeless.

As it happens, publicly proclaiming anything puts a target on one's back if that person falls trap to a relative hypocrisy. That is Sunday School 101 and Real Life 101.

I think I am pretty good about calling people out for using the word "gay" if I happen upon the topic. And I think my quote with "words that would offend..." was "the word ' gay' is as offensive as '#$&*@!' or ' spick.' The topics trend to tangent then get deleted by TJ though.

The Bible also says to emulate Jesus, watch what you say, and love the sinner wile hating the sin. Then again, the Bible also says that Jesus cursed a fig tree, God killed children for calling Elijah "bald," and that if a group of guys want to rape a man, offer the man's hooker who will be  raped repeatedly, left on a porch to die, cut into twelve pieces, and sent to the corners of Israel. I forgot the moral of that one.

Can't wait until TheJord gets his hands on this one.
-wtk
« Last Edit: November 04, 2010, 01:48:01 PM by ket_the_jet »

November 04, 2010, 02:05:14 PM
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Re: Don't wanna make polemics or something but
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2010, 02:05:14 PM »
I never claimed to live a life based on another's moral guidelines irrefutably or to be a beacon to the world of a perfect human capable of saving humanity. I never said I am a representative of a purportedly magic Jew who loved everyone. In fact, I think I have made it clear that I see no redeeming qualities in humanity and that every race, sexuality, culture, nationality, cognative faculty, gender, etc., is equally hopeless.

So you're a cynical atheist then, eh?

November 04, 2010, 02:20:49 PM
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Re: Don't wanna make polemics or something but
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2010, 02:20:49 PM »
My beliefs are irrelevant to the conversation. What does anything beyond the points I have raised have to do with the topic at hand.
-wtk

November 04, 2010, 02:26:40 PM
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Re: Don't wanna make polemics or something but
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2010, 02:26:40 PM »
Just asking.

EDIT: Wait a cotton-picking-second-

Haven't we just been discussing my beliefs?
Are mine relevant to the conversation, but not yours?

EDIT#2: This whole argument should probably be moved or deleted.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2010, 02:29:29 PM by Door Orc »

November 04, 2010, 02:32:00 PM
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Re: Don't wanna make polemics or something but
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2010, 02:32:00 PM »
Well, I brought your beliefs to the debate, since I saw in your profile that you have a link to your church. I never ment to be self-rightenous. I condemn racist behaviour, but I try to live by the last words of Christ when he said: forgive them, since they don't know what they are doing....ingnorance.....

And please Door Orc, don't be offended too easily. It is everyone's good right to question someone's beliefs, especially when that belief comes with high moral standards. Be glad people do, because the Bible self teaches us that God will hold us responsible for our actions..those who are trusted with much, will be hold responsible for much. Also, you cannot expect other to have understanding for your belief, as Paul self said that the message is foolisness. "Instead, God chose to save only those who believe the foolish message we preach." 1 Cor 1:21.

And, when you are questioned, if you are singled out, please keep in mind what Peter has written in his letter, first letter, 3 chapter: Honor Christ and let him be the Lord of your life.
Always be ready to give an answer when someone asks you about your hope.
16 Give a kind and respectful answer and keep your conscience clear


Well, so far my 2 cents....
« Last Edit: November 04, 2010, 02:40:02 PM by Gil-Estel »
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November 04, 2010, 03:00:48 PM
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Re: Don't wanna make polemics or something but
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2010, 03:00:48 PM »
Heh, I guess the thread title I put proved to be useless now... But I guess it's kind of inevitable with these topics.

Yeah, maybe this whole thing should be deleted, though, to be honest, I really like and value what Gil just said. Some great verses there and very good way of using them.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2010, 03:02:24 PM by Yanko Markovic »
"To ask if Orcs "are" Communists is to me as sensible as asking if Communists are Orcs." - JRR Tolkien, regarding his "allegory".