Lack of creativity!

[V-R4NG3R]

Hi all,

I am postin this in a manner of a request

I have played some TS league games and i come against alot of lame decks! specially the Freepies, lastly i played against a deck which played an enthorde, an ents of fangorn, an elf, faramir, and aragorn and started with gandalf ! this all at site 2!..I really hate those im save anyways decks....
is it not a normal thing to have a deck concept? like playin with an idea ?
Is it a common thing for people to play alot of comps and walk to site 9 in league games or am i just being a lameass mofo? 
pls be more creative..

Wht do u guys think?

[FM]

It really depends on what is happening in the games. If they are WINNING doing this, then YOU need to be more creative with your Shadow side and really punish them. If they're not, well, you're mopping up some free wins, so what's the big deal? Perhaps more people could post deck ideas and discuss them, or discuss strategy as a whole. Write a small article on it, it might spark interest in deckbuilding again.

[hrcho]

Actually, I think that's quite creative. Not many people would go with 9 comps and so many different cultures. It's quite simple, but can be effective. On the other hand, I'm quite bored by Dauntless Hunter decks. They are all the SAME with 1 or 2 cards different (especially in TS) and almost everyone has one. Granted it's a very powerful deck, but it's soooo boring.

I consider creative decks to be those which are not often played, but can hold their own, those which implement new ideas (which is very rare) and those which are ultimately fun.

[ket_the_jet]

Towers block itself lacks fellowship-size enforcement--Southron Conqueror, Southron Veterans, and Southron Fighter are largely it; however, Towers Standard still has access to Enquea, Greed, The Number Must Be Few, etc.

I would say drop the Palantir of Orthanc, empty his or her (but probably his) hand, and then use Greed to wipe out the companions. Paging Dr. Loggins...
-wtk

[V-R4NG3R]

well its not just about my shadow against their freepies, but in the years i have been playin.. my decks had an idea or a concept. its really boring and demotivating if u play against 'do wht u can and i will get to site 9' with my strngh (>10) and vitality (>3) comps.. and even if that was a idea play more cards.. interesting cards to support that idea...

I indeed would like to see more creativity.. please! to keep the game interesting and fun..
i think i share this request in everyones name..

[ket_the_jet]

I don't think as a particular side as being creative as much as the whole deck. If the Freeps side seemed uninteresting to you, did filtering out the cards (A Wizard Is Never Late, etc.) lead to a devastating Shadow attack?

I personally think that the deck sounded plenty creative to have two Ents out before playing five more companions of different cultures. Sure, it sucks when you realize your matchup can't stand against it; that's why you have a Freeps side yourself.
-wtk

[V-R4NG3R]

I don't think as a particular side as being creative as much as the whole deck. If the Freeps side seemed uninteresting to you, did filtering out the cards (A Wizard Is Never Late, etc.) lead to a devastating Shadow attack?

I personally think that the deck sounded plenty creative to have two Ents out before playing five more companions of different cultures. Sure, it sucks when you realize your matchup can't stand against it; that's why you have a Freeps side yourself.
-wtk

lol so having 3x ent hore 3x ents of fangorn 3x fara 3x aragorn 3x legolas in a deck creative? strange...

[ket_the_jet]

Since you have to spot two Ents to play Ent Horde and Host of Fangorn and you said the guy started Gandalf...so it sounds like he just had a really interesting first hand.

Personally, I think you are just bitching because you lost. Sometimes you will lose to "inferior" decks. It happens to everyone.
-wtk

 

[FM]

Echo'ed. I don't think "lack of creativity" is the issue (it's a "tournament", after all, people shouldn't be playing it to "be cute", so as to spark interest in the game again), but rather: "the deck does nothing but throw beef at the table and stroll along, and it still bet me", which is, as ket put, bitching. In a meta full of Shadows designed to take advantage of the unspoken Rule of 5, with carefully conceived combos, the guy simply thought outside the box, said f* that and went for it, 9 companions, full rush, screw everything else. And it seemed to have worked. So, yeah, it IS creative. It is metagame thinking, at least, even if it was not intentional. I, for instance, do not even played Shotgun Enquea in a lot of my Moria decks back in FotR Block simply because "everyone else did", so it saved me 2-3 precious slots for other stuff (while people still neve went above 5 companions) and I won a lot of tournaments simply by using "advanced" thinking like this. Another example was playing Can You Protect Me From Yourself? x2 in Uruk-hai decks packing Orthanc Berserker, since if you take most FotR Block lists, simply put, decks played Aragorn, so the benefits far outweighted the rare times I got stuck with it in hand (plus, Berserker STILL is a nasty minion without his ability anyway). Again, metagame thinking. It can - and will - steal you some games if done properly. If you check the discussion regarding the banning of LR, I said several times that the card was not THAT dominant as people said, which again brings a point: if I was to play movie and everyone simply player LR Elves, I woulnd't #$&*@! about losing to it a bunch of times and ask people to "be creative", I'd simply build a Shadow side that was not hosed by her completely, and that punished puny elves. Simple as that. Play , splashing 2-3 Enquea and 2 Greed if you're losing to this.

[V-R4NG3R]

Since you have to spot two Ents to play Ent Horde and Host of Fangorn and you said the guy started Gandalf...so it sounds like he just had a really interesting first hand.

Personally, I think you are just bitching because you lost. Sometimes you will lose to "inferior" decks. It happens to everyone.
-wtk

 

i did not mention the other ents cause they were not really relevant..in the global picture!
and im not bitching about loosing lol. i played against it couple a days ago..if i was bitching i would have posted this back then.. its just a request..to be more creative..at a game which is losing its favour!

I posted this in a requesting manner, i did not try to attack someone or wht ever.. so i expect the same back try to react normal.

@FM
you are right, there are decks..i have decks against 5+ comps true but cant expect to play with it everytime..

[ket_the_jet]

You are appealing to the group to "react normal" when you have just suggested that your decks are original and entertaining and fun while the rest of the community does not have deck "concepts" or "ideas." Who are you to make this judgment?

When you start a post with that sort of pretention, it is pretty obvious that you are just pissy about losing a game or two.

The thing about GCCG, and the community in general, is that cards go thorough cycles. Three months ago, everyone was playing Desperate Defense of the Ring. Southron Archer seems to be more popular now. And soon, someone will watch a game and think, "That is a cool idea!" and the idea will take off.

I would just say that you lost a bad matchup and you are a "lameass mofo" for imploring the community to be more like yourself with grandoise ideas and a true understanding of what fun is. I didn't realize you were the judge of creativity.
-wtk

[V-R4NG3R]

You are appealing to the group to "react normal" when you have just suggested that your decks are original and entertaining and fun while the rest of the community does not have deck "concepts" or "ideas." Who are you to make this judgment?

When you start a post with that sort of pretention, it is pretty obvious that you are just pissy about losing a game or two.

The thing about GCCG, and the community in general, is that cards go thorough cycles. Three months ago, everyone was playing Desperate Defense of the Ring. Southron Archer seems to be more popular now. And soon, someone will watch a game and think, "That is a cool idea!" and the idea will take off.

I would just say that you lost a bad matchup and you are a "lameass mofo" for imploring the community to be more like yourself with grandoise ideas and a true understanding of what fun is. I didn't realize you were the judge of creativity.
-wtk

no i was just appealing to you, as in you have a serious problem with reacting normal to others post!
I was not blaming everyone.. not everyone plays ts and not everyone plays with lame decks everytime.
so dont worry about that!
i was not assuming that only or that my decks are original! i am tryn to and have seen a lot of creative decks on gccg.
I am not askin people to be more like my self.. where did u get that impression from? hehe i am a judge of creativity? did i say that?

For the last time, i posted this in a requestable , discussable manner! not to confront to anyone, i dont have the need to do that!

you should really think before you react to a post !

[ket_the_jet]

is it not a normal thing to have a deck concept? like playin with an idea ?
pls be more creative..

but in the years i have been playin.. my decks had an idea or a concept. its really boring and demotivating...
I indeed would like to see more creativity.. please! to keep the game interesting and fun..
i think i share this request in everyones name..

This doesn't strike you as self-righteous #$&*@!?
-wtk

[FM]

well its not just about my shadow against their freepies, but in the years i have been playin.. my decks had an idea or a concept. its really boring and demotivating if u play against 'do wht u can and i will get to site 9' with my strngh (>10) and vitality (>3) comps.. and even if that was a idea play more cards.. interesting cards to support that idea...

Well, if his concept is "play bunch of guys, run to site 9", and it got you, you HAVE to admit it IS an "interesting" deck, metagame-wise. Also, why should he play more cards? Isn't it working like that? Perhaps he needs a smaller deck to set up his shadow side.

i think i share this request in everyones name..

No, you don't. I'm a Spike at heart, if I go into a tournament, I'll play to win. Sure, every now and then I'll brew a random deck and like it (heck, I died trying Orcs in FotR Block, 'till the very end!), but when a tournament was on the horizon, I'd play what I thought was the best deck I could build. Period. Of course, "best deck" takes into account metagame as well, so it's not "best cards".

[V-R4NG3R]

This doesn't strike you as self-righteous #$&*@!?
-wtk

See my self saying that what i do is a good thing?