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August 30, 2011, 12:07:47 AM
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a few questions
« on: August 30, 2011, 12:07:47 AM »
Hi all,

I'm new to these forums but have been playing LOTR TCG for a loong time. There have always been a few iffy things about some of the rules that I wanted to have clarified.

First off has to do with the timing of cards that say "at the start of x phase" lets say the skirmish phase if both the shadow and fellowship players have cards with those works at the start of the skirmish phase which action happens first, I assume its the fellowship since everything else is that way but I wanted confirmation on that.

secondly im not sure im using Eowyn LOI correctly does her game text allow me to x minions for x wound on the minion skirmishing eowyn or is it 1 minion x times for x wounds on the minion skirmishing eowyn (i wish they had used this wording cause this way it's a lot more clear)

thirdly what happens first sanctuary healing or blade tip's effect. (for that matter if any two cards say "at the start of the turn..." is it also the fellowship effect that happens first?)

lastly If I kill a minion through woulding during a skirmish can i still use cards that respond to wining a skirmish or is that only when I win the skirmish via being stronger than the minion?

I hope these questions aren't too noobish or dumb, but I've never played in an official tourney so my grasp on the rules may be a bit off.


August 30, 2011, 06:39:42 AM
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Re: a few questions
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2011, 06:39:42 AM »
Fellowship first on all phases. Sanctuary becasue its like its own phase. Not sure about Eowyn LOI. I would guess you could still use repsponse cards either way.

August 30, 2011, 06:54:26 AM
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Re: a few questions
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2011, 06:54:26 AM »
Eowyns text means that the shadow player must place x wounds on minions where x is the combined number of wounds on all the minions skirmishing Eoywn.

August 30, 2011, 09:57:14 AM
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Re: a few questions
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2011, 09:57:14 AM »
At the start of ... phase actions order is decided by the Free Peoples player.

Eowyn, Lady of Ithilien makes the Shadow player place X wounds on his minions, where X is the total amount of wounds on minions skirmishing Eowyn. These wounds go wherever the Shadow player likes, on his minions.

Sanctuary happens at the start of the turn, before the fellowship phase.

Last question, has been answered many times, and is in the Comp Rules. For example, if all minions from a skirmish are removed entirely because of wounds or being discarded, then the Free Peoples character is considered to have won the skirmish.
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August 30, 2011, 11:41:53 AM
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Re: a few questions
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2011, 11:41:53 AM »
Thanks guys

Just to clarify for Eowyn LOI, lets say a minion is assigned to Eowyn who has 3 wounds (and is exhausted) and there are two other minions with 2 vitality each and no wounds does that mean the shadow player must do one of the following?

a) assign one wound to each minion thereby the minon skirmishing eowyn
b) assign 2 wounds to one of the 2 vitality minions, killing him, and assign the final wound to the other 2 vitality minion.
c) assign one wound to the minion skirmishing eowyn and 2 to one of the 2 vitality minions, thereby killing both those minions.

The way I've always played it is strictly that all wounds must go on one minion but that never seemed right to me because my opponent could always just assign the wounds to the minion with the least vitality thereby avoid some of the excess wounds.

in the example above my opponent would usually declare that he is assigning all the wounds to the minion eowyn is skirmishing and since that minion can only take one wound the rest of the wounds are ignored. or he would assign 2 of the wounds to one of the 2 vitality minions thereby still avoiding that third wound. His logic was that the shadow player must choose one single minion to assign all the wounds to. Is this correct?

August 30, 2011, 01:59:32 PM
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2011, 01:59:32 PM »
No it isn't.  He would have to assign all three wounds in any way he wished.  If he killed one with 2 vitality and he still had the leftover wound he would have to assign it to someone else.