Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here

[dmaz]

Here's one I think.

At Pelennor Prairie. FP player has 5 conditions out. 3 of them are shire tales, 2 of them are not. He has Pippin, Friend to Frodo in play. I exert shelob and remove a burden to make him discard one of his conditions. What should happen next?

My assumption is that because the site text says "make the free people's player discard", It is the FP player who is actually doing the discarding, thus discrediting Pippin. Either that, or if you guys think that technically me removing the burden is in fact the Shadow player discarding the condition, then at the very least, he shouldn't be allowed to select the Shire tales for discarding.

The game let him select one of the tales as the card to be discarded but it didn't get discarded.

Here's the link. My opponent actually just left the table right after this happened and the game ended after 10 minutes. You can just fast forward to when he moves to site 4.

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=dmaz$wor42wykbu3a4c8p

[bibfortuna25]

Yeah, this is a bug. Pippin can't protect the tales when the FP is the one who's doing the discarding.

[bibfortuna25]

I just watched that replay. You exerted one tracker, and it went on Eowyn. He evidently chose not to exert her to prevent it. However, you can't use Many Riddles to assign more than 1 tracker per bearer.

[Haszor]

Wow that is weird. And you did actually have a companion in your draw deck that you should have been able to get?

I had several in the deck still.  And correct me if I'm wrong, but even without a companion you can still pull a condition out of the deck, correct?

[dethwish07]

Wow that is weird. And you did actually have a companion in your draw deck that you should have been able to get?

I had several in the deck still.  And correct me if I'm wrong, but even without a companion you can still pull a condition out of the deck, correct?

Yes, that is correct. You do as much of the effect as you can.

Edit: See Bib's post below.

[c_c_j]

Same thing happened to me with Momentous Gathering. There were no more Gandalf companions in the deck, but several conditions still. Nothing happened when I played Momentous Gathering.

[Carl333]

That is because either way you have to play a companion.  If you cant play a companion the other half wont work.  It is the same with Gorgoroth Swarm.

[c_c_j]

Ah, really? I've always understood it as dethwish07 did, in that the "do as much of the effect as you can" rule applies to that card.

[dethwish07]

Unless I am forgetting something, you should be able to take control of a site without having played the besieger from your discard in the same way Momentous Gathering should let you play a condition from draw deck even if no companion is there to be played. They use the word "and" rather than the word "to", i.e. "play a besieger from your discard pile AND take control of a site" rather than "play a besieger from your discard pile TO take control of a site." So, unless I'm forgetting something, these should fall under the "do as much as you can rule." Carl333, I'd appreciate it if you could point me to anything I missed in the rules that indicates the interpertation that is implemented on gemp currently is the correct one.

Where is Bib? Lol


Edit: See Bib's post below.

[bibfortuna25]

The "Do as much as you can" rule doesn't apply to actions that play a card from your hand or discard pile. For the Gorgoroth Swarm, you have to be able to play the other besieger in order to take a site.

Momentous Gathering is evidently bugged.

[dethwish07]

The "Do as much as you can" rule doesn't apply to actions that play a card from your hand or discard pile. For the Gorgoroth Swarm, you have to be able to play the other besieger in order to take a site.

Momentous Gathering is evidently bugged.

Thanks, Bib

[Legion]

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=Legion$uzrnl52vxe0ebfxr

Doors of Durin seems to be making every companion strength -1, not just that of the race that has the most companions.

My bad.  I thought Gandalf had Glamdring, not shadowfax

[c_c_j]

I think it's working OK. You have two men and two dwarves, so the 4 of them were affected by doors of durin.

[Haszor]

Windows In A Stone Wall cannot be played.

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=haszor$e8v0wxqdhbo12cis

[Merrick_H]

Dead Marshes is bugged.  It is supposed to let me play "up to" 2 conditions from my discard pile if I can spot 2 orcs in the maneuver phase.  It forced me to play 2 conditions.

See site 9 in the replay below:

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=Merrick H$ao77y1dr223oitsp