Questions from the new one :)

[Ramingo]

Hi there everybody! I'm new here, I'm Ramingo (that means Ranger in Italian) and I rediscover with my friends this great game after 10 years (we play only from 1 to 3 set)

I've read all the messages in quite all the topics but I'm not still totally sure about something:

1_  "Blade tip" says that the wound occurs at the beginning of the fellowship phase. If a player moves twice, after the regroup phase there will be a Shadow phase. Skipping the fellowship phase means that Blade tip doesn't wound the character bearing it? or in this case the fellowship phase still exist but the FP player can't do anything? (reminds me also the effect of the "Book of Marzabul" , same question...)

2_ Moving twice means 2 turns for the FP player? (Aragorn, king in exile heal 2 wounds? one before the first fellowship phase and one before the shadow phase after the first regroup?) Or the turn finish when another player starts his/her own fellowship phase?

3_ if the Shadow Player has "Drawn to its power" and a Nazgul kills Frodo while Sam is in the fellowship: the ring is transferred and also all frodo's burdens? The ring is transferred without burdens and, due to Frodo's death, "Drawn to its power" gives Sam a burden? Or in the end there will be Sam without burdens?

4_ Always about "Drawn to its power", if a Nazgul kills an ally in a skirmish? there will be no added burdens because he is not a companion?

5_ If the witch-king with "the pale blade" wins a skirmish, how many times it can be exert? only once per skirmish (example one in a skirmish and another at the fierce skirmish or even twice at the first skirmish and another time at the fierce one?)?

6_ there are so many questions I would ask that I think it's better for now to stop sorry for the long post

PS: I'm sorry also for my English, I'm italian
 

[Panch]

1. If you double, blade tip does not trigger.

2.No, If you double, it goes straight to the shadow phase, so you can not trigger any fellowship phase abilities. Like Aragorn, king in exile or blade tip.

3. I believe all the burdens get dropped off and sam gets a clean slate. Also after the triggers, Sam would get the burden i do believe.

4. Correct, no burden for ally kills.

5. Once, since its a response.

6. No problem haha.

[Ramingo]

question 1 and 2 are 99% clear to me, I didn't read


"Beginner's Articles, READ this before asking any questions! "

sorry

[hsiale]

Answers 1-4 are correct. To clear number 3: Drawn to its Power is a mandatory action, while Sam taking the ring is optional (even though you always choose to do it). That's why burden happens first (and vanishes, because there is no ring-bearer at that short moment, as Frodo is already dead and Sam has not become a ringbearer yet), then clean Sam takes the ring.

Answer 5: as many times as you wish (in this case, as many times as you can exert The Witch-King). Responses are unlimited (unless a limit is written on the card). If it read "Each time...", with no response word on it, you could do this only once per skirmish (and another one for fierce it there was one).

[Panch]

Answer 5: as many times as you wish (in this case, as many times as you can exert The Witch-King). Responses are unlimited (unless a limit is written on the card). If it read "Each time...", with no response word on it, you could do this only once per skirmish (and another one for fierce it there was one).

Yes, as many times as you want. I dont know why i said only once, since i know first hand at the amount of responses someone can have due to a trigger. *coughs* You're a Liar and a Thief *coughs*

[Ramingo]

I think 3) is unfair
We play as: Frodo dies, sam takes his place instantly because it's a response, frodo is dead at the end of the skirmish so the ring-bearer takes a burden (sam)...
My poor nazguls, joked like this...

[Ramingo]

But if Frodo has 9 burdens and he is killed by a nazgul with also drawn to its power, even if there is sam, the ring bearer is corrupted?

[legolas3333]

The burdens are not transferred from Frodo to Sam if Frodo dies.

[bibfortuna25]

Here's the action order for Drawn To Its Power:

1) Skirmish resolves with Frodo either taking his last wound or being overwhelmed.
2) Required action for #1 means that Frodo is killed.
3) There are two required actions to Frodo being killed. One required action is placing Frodo in the dead pile, the other is DTIP adding its burden. The FP player decides which action occurs first. So if he chooses to put Frodo in the dead pile first, then DTIP would trigger, but there is no Ring-bearer to add a burden to, so its effect fizzles. On the other hand, if FP decides to have DTIP resolve first, a burden would be added to Frodo before he's placed in the dead pile, so if Frodo already has 9 burdens, this would corrupt him.
4) Assuming Frodo wasn't corrupted by the FP making a silly choice for the automatic actions, Sam can finally take the Ring from Frodo's corpse. Sam will have 0 burdens on him.

In short, DTIP will never put a burden on Sam if Frodo is killed in a skirmish involving a Nazgul. Sam's ability is optional, so it will always happen after any required effects from Frodo being killed have occurred.

[Yrael]

Answer 5: as many times as you wish (in this case, as many times as you can exert The Witch-King). Responses are unlimited (unless a limit is written on the card). If it read "Each time...", with no response word on it, you could do this only once per skirmish (and another one for fierce it there was one).

This is wrong I believe. You can respond to an event or action or whatever with as many cards as you want, but each card can only respond once. So you could play multiple copies of Your a liar and a thief if gollum wins a skirmish, since each of those is a separate card, but you cannot use a response on a single card multiple times, unless multiple triggering actions occur. Otherwise, a card like Howl of Harad would be able to use up all the divisions of 4 pool at once.

[bibfortuna25]

You are incorrect. Any bolded special ability can be used as many times as you can pay for it. So The Pale Blade can exert the Witch-king as many times as you want to discard some FP conditions.

Howl of Harad was errataed to only work once per Southron victory; as printed, you could do it as many times as you want.

[Panch]

Yeah, you can have many responses to something as you like, as long as you pay the cost.

[Ramingo]

Thanks everybody!

[Yrael]

You are incorrect. Any bolded special ability can be used as many times as you can pay for it. So The Pale Blade can exert the Witch-king as many times as you want to discard some FP conditions.

Howl of Harad was errataed to only work once per Southron victory; as printed, you could do it as many times as you want.

Interesting. I'll have to make use of that.