question about tentacles, uruk archers

[alextrigw]

hi guys once more i must aks stupid questions to prove to my m8 that he is wrong.... so http://lotrtcgwiki.com/wiki/lotr04211?redirect=1 if u play 4 archers and the card gets 4 tokens can the sp remove all 4 tokens to make the archery total plus 4 and then discard the condition or can it only be used once so the limit is 2 archery total regardless of how many tokens u have on it? so about tentacles if watcher in the water gets discarded while he has made the site marsh and the the site isnt marsh anymore do the tentacles all get discarded??

[menace64]

The most archery that Weapons of Isengard can generate per card is 2, for exactly the reasons you pointed out.

And yes, if you have Watcher in the Water, Many-tentacled Creature in play, it makes the current site a marsh only for as long as it is still in play. If it is discarded (and no other card is making the site a marsh), all your tentacles are also discarded.