galadriel LR and other such OP decks on GEMP

[bibfortuna25]

Decipher was kind enough to provide players with two ways to win a game. If LR is devastating your Shadow, use your own FP to run.

[jdizzy001]

Agreed

[UnPapayaCoconut]

Decipher was kind enough to provide players with two ways to win a game. If LR is devastating your Shadow, use your own FP to run.

We had this discussion in the chat a few days ago I remember, and alot of people agreed.

The thing about LR is that she completely destroys certain decks and makes them unplayable, which itself limits the cultures that u can play and makes the game less creative since u need to play certain decks to even have a slight chance of success against that extremely broken card.
Even though there's 2 ways to win a game it pretty much eliminates 50% of the game itself when u cant contest ur opponent with ur shadowside..

So I see alot of downsides in leaving LR the way she is right now, I think she should be tweaked, banned, or just introduce a "non-galadriel-LR-format".
I'm sure it would be popular.

Sry for bad english

[MarcinS]

Just run a random minions and Terrible as the Dawn.

[Ringbearer]

Or run a #$&*@! of Sauron minions and Terrible as the Dawn ^^

[FM]

Here we go again...

[UnPapayaCoconut]

Just run a random minions and Terrible as the Dawn.

Well I dont think its quite that simple though, but its just 1 card that requires every shadow side to have tech against this "special" card, doesn't that say something about it?
Every deck you build gotta have a way to counter galadriel or its gonna be completely useless, not only do u need to counter it, u need to get the counter up before its too late.

I personally think it kills alot of the fun when u see the same companion over and over, just because its so good that you cant afford to keep it out of ur deck. (if its a "competitive" game that is)
It becomes a game of use-galadriel <-> counter-galadriel instead of a normal game of lotr.
Just my two cents

[Ringbearer]

I must say I am on GEMp a lot and I dont face that many LR. So I think the ever present problem you shape here isnt such a big deal. besides, enough strategies can circumvent around a Galadriel.

Also a point: we had the LR discussion quite some time now, and she is still around. Not that much players found it abig deal (me included). I still dare to play Dunland and corsairs in movie.

[UnPapayaCoconut]

In casual games its quite rare, but in every movie block tournament/daily pretty much every1 have had it , atleast in those i played. Sure u can play dunland and corsair but then ur opponent can just doublewalk pretty much everytime :p

[FM]

Well, to cut a long discussion short, bottom line is: there's nothing to be done. Daily events follow the tournament rules, and by tournament rules, she's legal, so yeah, that's about all there is to it.
Sure, people could create a "No-LR format", but considering how dead the game already is, that would just be inviting trouble to the player base, as the ensueing discussion could fragment even more an already shattered group.
In casual games, though, you're more than free to not want to play against a card/strategy you find annoying and/or boring for whatever reason (be it OP or not), so you can just explain you don't like to play against X, click "Concede", and then try another game against a different strategy.

[sgtdraino]

So I see alot of downsides in leaving LR the way she is right now, I think she should be tweaked, banned, or just introduce a "non-galadriel-LR-format".

They did. It's called, "Expanded."

I'm sure it would be popular.

It is! 

[Valtor]

This seemed an appropriate thread on which to post the observation that on Gemp we now have a "Movie Block, no GLR (10R11)" league type available, which ran recently (7-16 July 2014) as a 10 game single serie My Cards league.
 
Amid all the discussion about GLR, it has been said that to ban GLR would result in MB being overrun by (in particular) Corsairs, Besiegers and Ninja Gollum.
 
So I thought it worth posting a summary of the deck types seen in the recent league.
 
17 players played 2 or more games. I observed 16 of the 17, their shadow decks were split between 11 distinct deck types, as follows:
 
3x Besiegers
3x Ninja Gollum
2x Dunland
1x Battleground Uruks
1x Enduring Nazgul
1x Iseorc wounding
1x Morcs
1x Moria swarm [and the 9-1 winner, props to lorddon!]
1x Sauron Uruk-hai
1x Southrons
1x Twilight Nazgul
 
Number of Corsair decks: nil!
 
I am not in favour of a general ban on GLR, but the experience of this league suggests that her enforced absence does not of itself result in a limited number of deck types being played. On the contrary, the league had good variety of decks, and was actually missing Corsairs.
 
On the FP side, there were 4x Gimli BoG dwarf decks (including the winning deck), and 9 other distinct deck types.
 
Of course, in an All Cards league a different mix of shadow decks might be experienced, but the recent MyC experience is noted for what it is worth.

[Air Power]

^I don't think one league is sufficient to draw conclusions (for or against) about the meta-game impact of banning LR.

[Cthulhu]

^I don't think one league is sufficient to draw conclusions (for or against) about the meta-game impact of banning LR.

Yeah, especially given the very low popularity of all leagues after the last collection reset. I think you just wasted your time, Valtor, trying to do deep analysis based on a league where only 10 people played more than 5 games.

I mean, in this particular league only six (6) people played all their games, 'nuff said.

I remember no-LR league where everyone I watched was either dunland or corsair, and then another where everyone was just besiegers. But that was some time ago, and then there were deffinitely more players both in the league and with full games at the end.

[sgtdraino]

I'd be interested in seeing some updated statistics on this.